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JVoV -> RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped (8/22/2015 1:06:35 AM)
What would you have us do, Sanity? Kill the bastards?

Sanity -> RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped (8/22/2015 1:10:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV What would you have us do, Sanity? Kill the bastards? Sounds like a plan to me

JVoV -> RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped (8/22/2015 1:16:54 AM)
Um, from the link I just posted. FOX News btw. quote: Hajji Mutazz, the Islamic State's second in command, was killed in a U.S. airstrike in Iraq, the White House confirmed Friday. Mutazz was killed in the Aug. 18 strike while traveling in a vehicle near Mosul, Iraq, the White House said. Also killed was an ISIS media operative known as Abu Abdullah. ADVERTISEMENT Mutazz, also known as Fadhil Ahmad al-Hayali, was senior deputy to ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, and a primary coordinator for moving weapons, vehicles and explosives between Iraq and Syria. Mutazz was instrumental in a number of military operations, including the ISIS offensive in Mosul in June 2014. “Al-Hayali's death will adversely impact ISIL's operations given that his influence spanned ISIL's finance, media, operations, and logistics,” the White House statement said. “The United States and its coalition partners are determined to degrade and destroy this terrorist group which has wrought so much harm and suffering on the people of the region and beyond,” the statement said. Pentagon spokesman Jeff Davis said late Friday that Mutazz was an Iraqi national.

Lucylastic -> RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped (8/22/2015 3:56:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic ignorant ears, bush years were incredible apparently, the iraq war was righteous, dead muslims are the goal. and american congress cant rule the UN so it has to go. Leftists such as yourself claim to care about womens reproductive rights, but you are the worst kind of hypocrites imaginable At seeing news of countless women being held as horribly abused sex slaves all you can think to say or do, is to change the subject to how much you hate white men, hate Christians, hate Bush, hate me, derail the discussion to anything else Any other subject Leftists are so lost. NO compass From TIME magazine: quote: Controversial Campaign to Buy Back ISIS Sex Slaves Hits Funding Milestone But detractors say paying ransoms to ISIS will only encourage more abduction Canadian businessman Steve Maman had raised half a million dollars as of Thursday via crowdfunding site GoFundMe for a controversial scheme to ransom Yezidi and Christian women from their ISIS captors. Maman, who claims to have already rescued 128 girls and women from ISIS captivity, told investigative website Vocativ that he has been paying middlemen who negotiate with ISIS to ransom the women for between $1,000 and $3,000. The deals are said to take place in Iraqi Kurdistan. The women, many of whom have faced violent sexual abuse, are then taken to refugee camps where they receive food, water, shelter and medical care, Maman told Vocativ. ... Thousands of Yezidis have been killed by ISIS and there are thought be large numbers of Yezidi and Christian women living in sexual captivity to ISIS fighters. Full article here From another thread: quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic you are entitled to your opinions... entirely, but you are not allowed control over a woman body without her consent... Why is it so many of you forget consent.... How many hours have you spent amongst abused and raped women in your own country???Apart from your own?(by that I mean females who have been abused or violated close to you....family... How many organizations for womens health and or safety in the US and abroad do you belong to? or even know about? How much have you donated to Malalas cause.... How much have you donated to child nutrition help, with either time or money? The only reason you brought up Kayla Mueller was because she is newsworthy, you dont care about women who are raped and beaten and killed by american men. Youve never mentioned sex trafficking thats rife in your own country You say alleged rape victims are making things up in Cosbys obvious rape and drugging habits. You ignore women being raped by cops on the side of US highways, excuse me while i laugh at your attempt to excuse your severe ugliness about the women in your own country, blatantly using the death of Kayla Mueller to ignore whats happening right under your nose.. I noticed that you passed by the rest of what I said in that thread, but posted it here as some kind of " proof" im a hypocrite? Im asking YOU questions, not making "it" about you, I want answers to basic questions, oh and any other woman hating moron on the right can feel free to answer.

thishereboi -> RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped (8/22/2015 4:51:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic How many hours have you spent amongst abused and raped women in your own country???Apart from your own?(by that I mean females who have been abused or violated close to you....family... How many organizations for womens health and or safety in the US and abroad do you belong to? or even know about? How much have you donated to Malalas cause.... How much have you donated to child nutrition help, with either time or money? The only reason you brought up Kayla Mueller was because she is newsworthy, you dont care about women who are raped and beaten and killed by american men. Youve never mentioned sex trafficking thats rife in your own country You say alleged rape victims are making things up in Cosbys obvious rape and drugging habits. You ignore women being raped by cops on the side of US highways, excuse me while i laugh at your attempt to excuse your severe ugliness about the women in your own country, blatantly using the death of Kayla Mueller to ignore whats happening right under your nose.. I noticed that you passed by the rest of what I said in that thread, but posted it here as some kind of " proof" im a hypocrite? Im asking YOU questions, not making "it" about you, I want answers to basic questions, oh and any other woman hating moron on the right can feel free to answer. No Lucy you aren't making it about him [8\|] You are making about the sanity you have conjured up in your mind. It's the only possible way you could know all that about him since you have never met the real sanity and have no fucking clue what he cares about.

Lucylastic -> RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped (8/22/2015 4:59:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic How many hours have you spent amongst abused and raped women in your own country???Apart from your own?(by that I mean females who have been abused or violated close to you....family... How many organizations for womens health and or safety in the US and abroad do you belong to? or even know about? How much have you donated to Malalas cause.... How much have you donated to child nutrition help, with either time or money? The only reason you brought up Kayla Mueller was because she is newsworthy, you dont care about women who are raped and beaten and killed by american men. Youve never mentioned sex trafficking thats rife in your own country You say alleged rape victims are making things up in Cosbys obvious rape and drugging habits. You ignore women being raped by cops on the side of US highways, excuse me while i laugh at your attempt to excuse your severe ugliness about the women in your own country, blatantly using the death of Kayla Mueller to ignore whats happening right under your nose.. I noticed that you passed by the rest of what I said in that thread, but posted it here as some kind of " proof" im a hypocrite? Im asking YOU questions, not making "it" about you, I want answers to basic questions, oh and any other woman hating moron on the right can feel free to answer. No Lucy you aren't making it about him [8\|] You are making about the sanity you have conjured up in your mind. It's the only possible way you could know all that about him since you have never met the real sanity and have no fucking clue what he cares about. and you do the same with me, and every lefty you get your tits in a tangle over. If you noticed, HE made it about me using another thread...YOu can feel free to answer any of those questions, go right ahead, dont let me let it be all about sanity. Actually contribute to the topic, and not just be a bitch.

Sanity -> RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped (8/22/2015 5:33:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV Um, from the link I just posted. FOX News btw. quote: Hajji Mutazz, the Islamic State's second in command, was killed in a U.S. airstrike in Iraq, the White House confirmed Friday. Mutazz was killed in the Aug. 18 strike while traveling in a vehicle near Mosul, Iraq, the White House said. Also killed was an ISIS media operative known as Abu Abdullah. ADVERTISEMENT Mutazz, also known as Fadhil Ahmad al-Hayali, was senior deputy to ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, and a primary coordinator for moving weapons, vehicles and explosives between Iraq and Syria. Mutazz was instrumental in a number of military operations, including the ISIS offensive in Mosul in June 2014. “Al-Hayali's death will adversely impact ISIL's operations given that his influence spanned ISIL's finance, media, operations, and logistics,” the White House statement said. “The United States and its coalition partners are determined to degrade and destroy this terrorist group which has wrought so much harm and suffering on the people of the region and beyond,” the statement said. Pentagon spokesman Jeff Davis said late Friday that Mutazz was an Iraqi national. Way too little, too late Johnny-come-lately is just now starting to fly a few sorties when he could have nipped this in the bud when things weres first called to his attention and he laughed and called ISIS "junior varsity"

Sanity -> RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped (8/22/2015 5:36:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic and you do the same with me, and every lefty you get your tits in a tangle over. If you noticed, HE made it about me using another thread...YOu can feel free to answer any of those questions, go right ahead, dont let me let it be all about sanity. Actually contribute to the topic, and not just be a bitch. I used your hypocrisy as an example. Not the same. You and your little troll friends, all you are capable of is attacking the poster, things of that nature. Rather than discuss topics

Lucylastic -> RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped (8/22/2015 5:54:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic and you do the same with me, and every lefty you get your tits in a tangle over. If you noticed, HE made it about me using another thread...YOu can feel free to answer any of those questions, go right ahead, dont let me let it be all about sanity. Actually contribute to the topic, and not just be a bitch. I used your hypocrisy as an example. Not the same. You and your little troll friends, all you are capable of is attacking the poster, things of that nature. Rather than discuss topics If the original poster wasnt such an ignorant poster, it wouldnt be so tempting to point out his logical fallacies, strawman and fem hominems, ad hominems and sheer fucking lies. Now, hypocrisy??? Answer the questions. or keep ignoring the issues Ive raised Your inability to do so. is all the response I need. Where is my hypocrisy? THe topic of women and rape, abuse and enslaved and killed is the subject. that you only choose to speak up for women in muslim lands is not my problem.

tweakabelle -> RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped (8/22/2015 5:57:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic How many hours have you spent amongst abused and raped women in your own country???Apart from your own?(by that I mean females who have been abused or violated close to you....family... How many organizations for womens health and or safety in the US and abroad do you belong to? or even know about? How much have you donated to Malalas cause.... How much have you donated to child nutrition help, with either time or money? The only reason you brought up Kayla Mueller was because she is newsworthy, you dont care about women who are raped and beaten and killed by american men. Youve never mentioned sex trafficking thats rife in your own country You say alleged rape victims are making things up in Cosbys obvious rape and drugging habits. You ignore women being raped by cops on the side of US highways, excuse me while i laugh at your attempt to excuse your severe ugliness about the women in your own country, blatantly using the death of Kayla Mueller to ignore whats happening right under your nose.. I noticed that you passed by the rest of what I said in that thread, but posted it here as some kind of " proof" im a hypocrite? Im asking YOU questions, not making "it" about you, I want answers to basic questions, oh and any other woman hating moron on the right can feel free to answer. It's probably safe to assume that the answer to most if not all of the questions is: No time at all. It's both sad and infuriating to hear some of the looney Rightwingers here mouthing off about the treatment of women in the Middle East, while at the same time supporting every measure the Right tries to introduce to control women and their bodies in the US. These are the same people who opposed every measure to advance women in the past, who fought tooth and nail against every measure to remove the discrimination and structural obstacles that society used to keep women in 'their place', the same people who support every measure the looney Right introduces to remove womens ability to control their own bodies. If the welfare of women was left up to these people, women would still be in the Dark Ages. You are perfectly right and entitled to draw attention to the cynical shameless way they use women to advance their Neanderthal politics. Women's welfare to them is nothing more than a convenient catchcry, a stick that they can use to beat anyone who wants a more equitable society either at home or overseas.

Lucylastic -> RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped (8/22/2015 6:50:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic How many hours have you spent amongst abused and raped women in your own country???Apart from your own?(by that I mean females who have been abused or violated close to you....family... How many organizations for womens health and or safety in the US and abroad do you belong to? or even know about? How much have you donated to Malalas cause.... How much have you donated to child nutrition help, with either time or money? The only reason you brought up Kayla Mueller was because she is newsworthy, you dont care about women who are raped and beaten and killed by american men. Youve never mentioned sex trafficking thats rife in your own country You say alleged rape victims are making things up in Cosbys obvious rape and drugging habits. You ignore women being raped by cops on the side of US highways, excuse me while i laugh at your attempt to excuse your severe ugliness about the women in your own country, blatantly using the death of Kayla Mueller to ignore whats happening right under your nose.. I noticed that you passed by the rest of what I said in that thread, but posted it here as some kind of " proof" im a hypocrite? Im asking YOU questions, not making "it" about you, I want answers to basic questions, oh and any other woman hating moron on the right can feel free to answer. No Lucy you aren't making it about him [8\|] You are making about the sanity you have conjured up in your mind. It's the only possible way you could know all that about him since you have never met the real sanity and have no fucking clue what he cares about. Ummm btw...all the things I mention specifically about his own posts are facts. Go thru the thread, see just how many posts discuss kayla.... Are you as a right winger gonna respond to any of the questions???

Lucylastic -> RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped (8/22/2015 7:09:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic How many hours have you spent amongst abused and raped women in your own country???Apart from your own?(by that I mean females who have been abused or violated close to you....family... How many organizations for womens health and or safety in the US and abroad do you belong to? or even know about? How much have you donated to Malalas cause.... How much have you donated to child nutrition help, with either time or money? The only reason you brought up Kayla Mueller was because she is newsworthy, you dont care about women who are raped and beaten and killed by american men. Youve never mentioned sex trafficking thats rife in your own country You say alleged rape victims are making things up in Cosbys obvious rape and drugging habits. You ignore women being raped by cops on the side of US highways, excuse me while i laugh at your attempt to excuse your severe ugliness about the women in your own country, blatantly using the death of Kayla Mueller to ignore whats happening right under your nose.. I noticed that you passed by the rest of what I said in that thread, but posted it here as some kind of " proof" im a hypocrite? Im asking YOU questions, not making "it" about you, I want answers to basic questions, oh and any other woman hating moron on the right can feel free to answer. It's probably safe to assume that the answer to most if not all of the questions is: No time at all. It's both sad and infuriating to hear some of the looney Rightwingers here mouthing off about the treatment of women in the Middle East, while at the same time supporting every measure the Right tries to introduce to control women and their bodies in the US. These are the same people who opposed every measure to advance women in the past, who fought tooth and nail against every measure to remove the discrimination and structural obstacles that society used to keep women in 'their place', the same people who support every measure the looney Right introduces to remove womens ability to control their own bodies. If the welfare of women was left up to these people, women would still be in the Dark Ages. You are perfectly right and entitled to draw attention to the cynical shameless way they use women to advance their Neanderthal politics. Women's welfare to them is nothing more than a convenient catchcry, a stick that they can use to beat anyone who wants a more equitable society either at home or overseas. The "personal attacks" patheticness and ignoring of the actual questions about domestic violence rape, brutality, murders, slave trafficking in the US(Hah and the west) is all I expect. Some peoples assholes should grow tastebuds...

NorthernGent -> RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped (8/22/2015 9:37:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD Your problem is that you equate promoting democracy wherever you go with a crusade to force everyone to act just like them. And your problem, BamaD, is right there in your own words. Put simply, you have become so wedded to the idea that the West knows best that you can't possibly see that forcing democracy upon people is tyrannical. And, the result is that anything the West does is all above aboard because how could we possibly be wrong? After all, we're leading the rest of the world into the coming enlightenment. Never mind the glaring contradictions and downright brutal outcomes at times within Western societies; and at times an almost nihilist view on life and survival of the fittest. Oh, and you've under-played the West's hand in attempting to force democracy upon people. Promoting is being very generous and liberal with the actions of your own government and a few others.

BamaD -> RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped (8/22/2015 9:49:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD Your problem is that you equate promoting democracy wherever you go with a crusade to force everyone to act just like them. And your problem, BamaD, is right there in your own words. Put simply, you have become so wedded to the idea that the West knows best that you can't possibly see that forcing democracy upon people is tyrannical. And, the result is that anything the West does is all above aboard because how could we possibly be wrong? After all, we're leading the rest of the world into the coming enlightenment. Never mind the glaring contradictions and downright brutal outcomes at times within Western societies; and at times an almost nihilist view on life and survival of the fittest. Oh, and you've under-played the West's hand in attempting to force democracy upon people. Promoting is being very generous and liberal with the actions of your own government and a few others. A nation is a threat we go in deal with the threat and we set up the government before we leave. Were we supposed to put the Emperor and military back in charge of Japan, re-instate the Nazis in Germany, no we established the kind of government we knew. And we aren't dedicated to the death of everyone who doesn't think just like we do. And still you are equating a political solution to a lack of government to a religious fanatics desire to force everyone in the world to see things exactly their way. For your analogy to be accurate at the end of WW II we would not have established parliamentary republics, we wouldn't even have allowed England to have continued down that path, you would now be living under the US Constitution.

Sanity -> RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped (8/22/2015 9:54:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD And we aren't dedicated to the death of everyone who doesn't think just like we do. He is projecting there He expects that you think like a leftist fascist does

Sanity -> RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped (8/22/2015 10:03:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic and you do the same with me, and every lefty you get your tits in a tangle over. If you noticed, HE made it about me using another thread...YOu can feel free to answer any of those questions, go right ahead, dont let me let it be all about sanity. Actually contribute to the topic, and not just be a bitch. I used your hypocrisy as an example. Not the same. You and your little troll friends, all you are capable of is attacking the poster, things of that nature. Rather than discuss topics If the original poster wasnt such an ignorant poster, it wouldnt be so tempting to point out his logical fallacies, strawman and fem hominems, ad hominems and sheer fucking lies. Now, hypocrisy??? Answer the questions. or keep ignoring the issues Ive raised Your inability to do so. is all the response I need. Where is my hypocrisy? THe topic of women and rape, abuse and enslaved and killed is the subject. that you only choose to speak up for women in muslim lands is not my problem. Someone who really hates me has pointed out that you are trying to derail the thread These are political discussion boards. What I have been pointing out (besides how ISIS is a threat to all peace-loving people), are the methods leftists use to defend ISIS from scrutiny And thus, how illiberal leftists really are You dont have enough motherly love in you for your heart to go out to babies that undergo unnecessarily painful abortion procedures, are in this way exploited for commercial gain And if someone dare post a thread detailing the holocaust that is currently being perpetrated by ISIS there is nothing you wont stoop to in your personal attack against that person Because you know that you cannot argue facts

Lucylastic -> RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped (8/22/2015 10:09:32 AM)
You brought up my post from the other thread on abortion. I bit, and now you are crying about being attacked, tough shit. Gonna answer my questions?

Sanity -> RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped (8/22/2015 10:22:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic You brought up my post from the other thread on abortion. I bit, and now you are crying about being attacked, tough shit. Gonna answer my questions? I would, but I am cutting down on participating in you trolls' derails of my own threads Thanks for asking though [:)]

NorthernGent -> RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped (8/22/2015 10:33:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD Your problem is that you equate promoting democracy wherever you go with a crusade to force everyone to act just like them. And your problem, BamaD, is right there in your own words. Put simply, you have become so wedded to the idea that the West knows best that you can't possibly see that forcing democracy upon people is tyrannical. And, the result is that anything the West does is all above aboard because how could we possibly be wrong? After all, we're leading the rest of the world into the coming enlightenment. Never mind the glaring contradictions and downright brutal outcomes at times within Western societies; and at times an almost nihilist view on life and survival of the fittest. Oh, and you've under-played the West's hand in attempting to force democracy upon people. Promoting is being very generous and liberal with the actions of your own government and a few others. A nation is a threat we go in deal with the threat and we set up the government before we leave. Were we supposed to put the Emperor and military back in charge of Japan, re-instate the Nazis in Germany, no we established the kind of government we knew. And we aren't dedicated to the death of everyone who doesn't think just like we do. And still you are equating a political solution to a lack of government to a religious fanatics desire to force everyone in the world to see things exactly their way. For your analogy to be accurate at the end of WW II we would not have established parliamentary republics, we wouldn't even have allowed England to have continued down that path, you would now be living under the US Constitution. Clearly the United States is looking to maximise the number of like-minded regimes in the world. There's no gain in putting resources into changing us because we by and large agree with you - government to government that is. And, changing England wouldn't have been palatable for reasons that shouldn't need to be explained. The Japanese and Germans had no capacity to resist, given the near total destruction of their countries. Have they benefited? Don't get me wrong, the Germans certainly have. The Japanese not quite so sure. But, most importantly, you lost yourself when you posed the statement: "when a nation is a threat". I think you need to revisit that and you could come to the conclusion: "when we suggest a nation is a threat".

NorthernGent -> RE: American Aid Worker Enslaved, Tortured, Repeatedly Raped (8/22/2015 10:37:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD And we aren't dedicated to the death of everyone who doesn't think just like we do. He is projecting there He expects that you think like a leftist fascist does Sanity, you have the brains of a small garden mammal.

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