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RE: Rick Perlstein Calls the POW-MIA Flag 'RACIST' - 8/18/2015 12:13:08 AM   
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Rick Perlstein is a PPL, commie apologist, with more time than brains.

Fuck him, right where he takes his soup.



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RE: Rick Perlstein Calls the POW-MIA Flag 'RACIST' - 8/18/2015 5:54:27 AM   
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[color=]Rick Perlstein is a PPL, commie apologist, with more time than brains.

Fuck him, right where he takes his soup.



Michael


Aside from the word racist, what was it about the article that you found to be offensive?


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RE: Rick Perlstein Calls the POW-MIA Flag 'RACIST' - 8/18/2015 6:02:38 AM   
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[color=]Rick Perlstein is a PPL, commie apologist, with more time than brains.

Fuck him, right where he takes his soup.



Michael


Aside from the word racist, what was it about the article that you found to be offensive?




After reading the article, I must admit I had the same question.
The thrust of the article points out the huge political motivations and drivers for the Vietnam conflict and its aftermath.
Aside from the "racist" comment (which made no sense to me, given the overall tone of the article), the piece is a perspective of the politics behind the war.

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RE: Rick Perlstein Calls the POW-MIA Flag 'RACIST' - 8/18/2015 6:41:07 AM   
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And what some anti-war pansy Iike you fails to recognize is that there are plenty of us war-mongerers who were IN the military during the Vietnam Era and after...


I am unclear why being "anti war" makes one a pansy.
While I agree with Nana that you're most likely a sock, I'll answer your question.

I never stayed that being 'anti-war' makes anyone a pansy. There are things said, actions taken that shows the person to be a pansy. For example, the belief that all war is wrong. It is not. If you can't find one thing in your life outside yourself worth dying got, how do you find one thing ABOUT yourself worth dying for? In my opinion, someone who'll never find any war worth fighting is one who never had the courage to do so.



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RE: Rick Perlstein Calls the POW-MIA Flag 'RACIST' - 8/18/2015 6:50:19 AM   
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really,,,, pansy??
this sounds like the perpetually offended are getting snarky
You are only a man if you have fought. what utter fucking bollocks.
There is such a huge difference between Informed and ignorant..

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RE: Rick Perlstein Calls the POW-MIA Flag 'RACIST' - 8/18/2015 7:02:01 AM   
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really,,,, pansy??
this sounds like the perpetually offended are getting snarky
You are only a man if you have fought. what utter fucking bollocks.
There is such a huge difference between Informed and ignorant..

ANyone know when the mods come back?


Nice twist, Lucy. But that's not what I said.

As you said...There is such a difference between informed (by life and experience as well as education) and ignorant (little actual experience with the subject at hand). Just as there's a difference between understanding what is actually written...And putting your own spin on what is written.

BTW...do YOU find the POW-MIA flag racist?

I agree...bring the Mods back to cut down on the size of the sock drawer.

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RE: Rick Perlstein Calls the POW-MIA Flag 'RACIST' - 8/18/2015 7:18:56 AM   
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I never stayed that being 'anti-war' makes anyone a pansy.



"And what some anti-war pansy Iike you fails to recognize is that there are plenty of us war-mongerers who were IN the military during the Vietnam Era and after..."





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There are things said, actions taken that shows the person to be a pansy. For example, the belief that all war is wrong.


What war would be not wrong?




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It is not. If you can't find one thing in your life outside yourself worth dying got, how do you find one thing ABOUT yourself worth dying for?


?????



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In my opinion, someone who'll never find any war worth fighting is one who never had the courage to do so.


Why do you feel that is so?

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RE: Rick Perlstein Calls the POW-MIA Flag 'RACIST' - 8/18/2015 7:26:50 AM   
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I never stayed that being 'anti-war' makes anyone a pansy.



"And what some anti-war pansy Iike you fails to recognize is that there are plenty of us war-mongerers who were IN the military during the Vietnam Era and after..."





quote:

There are things said, actions taken that shows the person to be a pansy. For example, the belief that all war is wrong.


What war would be not wrong?




quote:

It is not. If you can't find one thing in your life outside yourself worth dying got, how do you find one thing ABOUT yourself worth dying for?


?????



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In my opinion, someone who'll never find any war worth fighting is one who never had the courage to do so.


Why do you feel that is so?

Because I don't like the sound of German.
Come on, who's sock are you?

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RE: Rick Perlstein Calls the POW-MIA Flag 'RACIST' - 8/18/2015 7:27:55 AM   
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really,,,, pansy??
this sounds like the perpetually offended are getting snarky
You are only a man if you have fought. what utter fucking bollocks.
There is such a huge difference between Informed and ignorant..

ANyone know when the mods come back?


Nice twist, Lucy. But that's not what I said.

As you said...There is such a difference between informed (by life and experience as well as education) and ignorant (little actual experience with the subject at hand). Just as there's a difference between understanding what is actually written...And putting your own spin on what is written.

BTW...do YOU find the POW-MIA flag racist?

I agree...bring the Mods back to cut down on the size of the sock drawer.


then who the fuck said this????
[quote]And what some anti-war pansy Iike you fails to recognize is that there are plenty of us war-mongerers who were IN the military during the Vietnam Era and after that know all about the liberal take on the "political war machine" and all about the extreme right wing "fuck yeah, let's go kill us some commies...right or wrong" view and realize there's truth to both sides, that it's not all black and white. There are many hues of grey in the picture. http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4831309

?? Your sock? I thought you got rid of that a long time ago.

I grew up in the UK..I knew little or nothing at the time, as I was, what 7 in 69, 10 in 72???
Ive always backed vets, and troops, so dont fucking go there you dipshit. I worked with some of the guys that came out of the falklands, I married a british army vet. Oh and he hates warmongers.
FUCK You and your pansy bullshit.


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RE: Rick Perlstein Calls the POW-MIA Flag 'RACIST' - 8/18/2015 7:56:35 AM   
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creativedominant: In my opinion, someone who'll never find any war worth fighting is one who never had the courage to do so.




Why do you feel that is so?


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BammaD:Because I don't like the sound of German


Did you just postulate that not liking the sound of another language is sufficient provocation to go to war?

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RE: Rick Perlstein Calls the POW-MIA Flag 'RACIST' - 8/18/2015 8:01:56 AM   
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creativedominant: In my opinion, someone who'll never find any war worth fighting is one who never had the courage to do so.




Why do you feel that is so?


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BammaD:Because I don't like the sound of German


Did you just postulate that not liking the sound of another language is sufficient provocation to go to war?

Do you postulate that living under Nazi Germany would be better than going to war? Unless you are an idiot you know that was my point. Since I assume that you aren't you were just trying to score points by perverting the obvious meaning of my post.

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RE: Rick Perlstein Calls the POW-MIA Flag 'RACIST' - 8/18/2015 8:07:08 AM   
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Do you postulate that living under Nazi Germany would be better than going to war?


Nazi Germany's ability to attack the U.S. was non existent. Since the Russians took the measure of Germany within the first six months of the opening of hostilities I fail to see any connection




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RE: Rick Perlstein Calls the POW-MIA Flag 'RACIST' - 8/18/2015 8:32:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

really,,,, pansy??
this sounds like the perpetually offended are getting snarky
You are only a man if you have fought. what utter fucking bollocks.
There is such a huge difference between Informed and ignorant..

ANyone know when the mods come back?


Nice twist, Lucy. But that's not what I said.

As you said...There is such a difference between informed (by life and experience as well as education) and ignorant (little actual experience with the subject at hand). Just as there's a difference between understanding what is actually written...And putting your own spin on what is written.

BTW...do YOU find the POW-MIA flag racist?

I agree...bring the Mods back to cut down on the size of the sock drawer.


then who the fuck said this????
[quote]And what some anti-war pansy Iike you fails to recognize is that there are plenty of us war-mongerers who were IN the military during the Vietnam Era and after that know all about the liberal take on the "political war machine" and all about the extreme right wing "fuck yeah, let's go kill us some commies...right or wrong" view and realize there's truth to both sides, that it's not all black and white. There are many hues of grey in the picture.
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4831309

?? Your sock? I thought you got rid of that a long time ago.

I grew up in the UK..I knew little or nothing at the time, as I was, what 7 in 69, 10 in 72???
Ive always backed vets, and troops, so dont fucking go there you dipshit. I worked with some of the guys that came out of the falklands, I married a british army vet. Oh and he hates warmongers.
FUCK You and your pansy bullshit.

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And like the ignorant twit you are, you still didn't understand it. So I'll explain it to you.

If you can't find any war worth fighting for, you're a coward. Because at some time, there has to be something outside yourself worth fighting and dying for.

If you think every war your country has fought in was truly right, then you're a warmonger. Because not every war is.

I was a soldier. I joined up for reasons...As noted...other than a paycheck, a route to college, killing somebody. Also, as noted, I didn't buy into the "capitalist war machine" bullshit of the left, nor did I buy into the "my country is always right" of the true warmongers on the right.

In your 'righteous' anger, you failed to notice that I made a distinction between "many" and "not all" 'support the troops' types. You sound like the "not all" type I was referring to (a good thing, you'll find if you read my posts non-critically).

As for you marrying a war vet? Hooray. As for him not liking warmongers? Hooray. Neither do I...

As you'd know, if you'd read my posts with the intelligence you accuse me of lacking.

BTW...I think your private message to the sock got carried over.


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RE: Rick Perlstein Calls the POW-MIA Flag 'RACIST' - 8/18/2015 8:45:19 AM   
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Do you postulate that living under Nazi Germany would be better than going to war?


Nazi Germany's ability to attack the U.S. was non existent. Since the Russians took the measure of Germany within the first six months of the opening of hostilities I fail to see any connection





But by your reckoning neither the British nor the Russians should have gone to war, it would have been better for them to surrender to the Nazis than to fight. Who says they would have to get here, using your reasoning when they demanded our surrender we should have complied. Not only that but when the Japanese attacked Pearl we should have surrendered instantly.

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RE: Rick Perlstein Calls the POW-MIA Flag 'RACIST' - 8/18/2015 8:50:44 AM   
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From Lucy's post to me:
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4831309

?? Your sock? I thought you got rid of that a long time ago

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RE: Rick Perlstein Calls the POW-MIA Flag 'RACIST' - 8/18/2015 8:53:35 AM   
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Come on, who's sock are you?

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RE: Rick Perlstein Calls the POW-MIA Flag 'RACIST' - 8/18/2015 9:07:04 AM   
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But by your reckoning neither the British nor the Russians should have gone to war,


Starting a war is not the same as defending oneself.


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it would have been better for them to surrender to the Nazis than to fight.



Why do you feel that would have been appropriate?

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Who says they would have to get here, using your reasoning when they demanded our surrender we should have complied.



I am unaware of any demand from Germany for our surrender.


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Not only that but when the Japanese attacked Pearl we should have surrendered instantly.



Why would the U.S. have surrendered? The U.S. had broken the Japanese code and knew everything they were up to before the operational orders were even published.

https://books.google.com/books?id=6wIUsa8hK4wC&pg=PA18&lpg=PA18&dq=william+friedman+broke+the+japanese+code&source=bl&ots=P5CDwiSOuC&sig=dJKTkizEqy2JJmITtNl-Sj8zmKY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CE0Q6AEwB2oVChMInqTwhoGzxwIVQSmICh1jAgSQ#v=onepage&q=william%20friedman%20broke%20the%20japanese%20code&f=false

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RE: Rick Perlstein Calls the POW-MIA Flag 'RACIST' - 8/18/2015 9:09:13 AM   
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And like the ignorant twit you are, you still didn't understand it. So I'll explain it to you.

If you can't find any war worth fighting for, you're a coward. Because at some time, there has to be something outside yourself worth fighting and dying for.

If you think every war your country has fought in was truly right, then you're a warmonger. Because not every war is.

I was a soldier. I joined up for reasons...As noted...other than a paycheck, a route to college, killing somebody. Also, as noted, I didn't buy into the "capitalist war machine" bullshit of the left, nor did I buy into the "my country is always right" of the true warmongers on the right.

In your 'righteous' anger, you failed to notice that I made a distinction between "many" and "not all" 'support the troops' types. You sound like the "not all" type I was referring to (a good thing, you'll find if you read my posts non-critically).

As for you marrying a war vet? Hooray. As for him not liking warmongers? Hooray. Neither do I...

As you'd know, if you'd read my posts with the intelligence you accuse me of lacking.

BTW...I think your private message to the sock got carried over.


YOU bloviate bullshit and still cant admit you are perpetually offended with anyone who disagrees with you, AND YOU DID USE PANSY
now, I havent had a private message with a sock, or the sock or any member of this forum in over a week so you can stuff your ignorant ass down your ignorant throat.
No I dont read your posts since your ben carson bullshit, you jumped the shark and have gone downhill since then, not worthy of contempt let alone a comment.
THis one time for calling someone a pansy, well you just made me more contemptuous...especially with the sad back pedalling ,it is really pointless reading anymore of the posts you spill.





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RE: Rick Perlstein Calls the POW-MIA Flag 'RACIST' - 8/18/2015 12:38:39 PM   
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And like the ignorant twit you are, you still didn't understand it. So I'll explain it to you.

If you can't find any war worth fighting for, you're a coward. Because at some time, there has to be something outside yourself worth fighting and dying for.

If you think every war your country has fought in was truly right, then you're a warmonger. Because not every war is.

I was a soldier. I joined up for reasons...As noted...other than a paycheck, a route to college, killing somebody. Also, as noted, I didn't buy into the "capitalist war machine" bullshit of the left, nor did I buy into the "my country is always right" of the true warmongers on the right.

In your 'righteous' anger, you failed to notice that I made a distinction between "many" and "not all" 'support the troops' types. You sound like the "not all" type I was referring to (a good thing, you'll find if you read my posts non-critically).

As for you marrying a war vet? Hooray. As for him not liking warmongers? Hooray. Neither do I...

As you'd know, if you'd read my posts with the intelligence you accuse me of lacking.

BTW...I think your private message to the sock got carried over.


YOU bloviate bullshit and still cant admit you are perpetually offended with anyone who disagrees with you, AND YOU DID USE PANSY
now, I havent had a private message with a sock, or the sock or any member of this forum in over a week so you can stuff your ignorant ass down your ignorant throat.
No I dont read your posts since your ben carson bullshit, you jumped the shark and have gone downhill since then, not worthy of contempt let alone a comment.
THis one time for calling someone a pansy, well you just made me more contemptuous...especially with the sad back pedalling ,it is really pointless reading anymore of the posts you spill.

I bloviate Bullshit? You must have me confused with a certain bird on here.

As for me calling someone a pansy, why would you care? Did you care that they called me a warmonger first...with NO provocation? No, I didn't think you did. He laid names down first...I answered in a like manner and explained myself.

I've done no backpedaling. All I did was explain myself to someone who couldn't understand the way I stated it. Funny how no one else has asked me to clarify.

As for the rest of your post proving you dont understand "perpetual offended"...I'm sorry.

Don't blame me because you had a message to a sock in your post.

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RE: Rick Perlstein Calls the POW-MIA Flag 'RACIST' - 8/18/2015 1:32:00 PM   
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Come on, who's sock are you?

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His logic is appropriate.

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