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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


Asking you for answers is not trolling. To start a thread and then simply bob-and-weave the challenges is namby-pamby, milquetoast, lilly-livered, craven, spineless, and yellow-bellied.

Here's the trick -- you have to think it through -- not simply pull the headline off The Drudge Report.

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'A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user.' - Theodore Roosevelt

The greatest existing cause of lynching is the perpetration, especially by black men, of the hideous crime of rape--the most abominable in all the category of crimes, even worse than murder. - Theodore Roosevelt

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When we deal with lynching even mote is necessary. A great many white men are lynched, but the crime is peculiarly frequent in respect to black men. The greatest existing cause of lynching is the perpetration, especially by black men, of the hideous crime of rape--the most abominable in all the category of crimes, even worse than murder. Mobs frequently avenge the commission of this crime by themselves torturing to death the man committing it; thus avenging in bestial fashion a bestial deed, and reducing themselves to a level with the criminal.

Lawlessness grows by what it feeds upon; and when mobs begin to lynch for rape they speedily extend the sphere of their operations and lynch for many other kinds of crimes, so that two-thirds of the lynchings are not for rape at all; while a considerable proportion of the individuals lynched are innocent of all crime...

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

My opinions on ISIS haven't changed since the thread made two days ago.

And I still see them as a tumor that needs to be removed.

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Youve omitted a part of the quote, fundamentally changing its meaning:

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

My opinions on ISIS haven't changed since the thread made two days ago.

And I still see them as a tumor that needs to be removed.

That's an arresting image, with which I don't necessarily disagree.

But removing tumors, I know firsthand, is a tricky business.

Any thoughts about how we'd accomplish that in terms of ISIS?

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'A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user.' - Theodore Roosevelt

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First, arm the Kurds, Yazidi, and anyone else willing to put boots on the ground. Holds down our casualties and it means they own their independence which they will then cherish more than if we just give it to them.

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Provide humanitarian aid to friendly areas, make live miserable in areas we don't control.

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Hope you are doing well.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Yes you do.
Hope you are doing well.
I have said this several times, but I don't believe you were in those threads.
First, arm the Kurds, Yazidi, and anyone else willing to put boots on the ground. Holds down our casualties and it means they own their independence which they will then cherish more than if we just give it to them.
Give them all the air support they need, not a dozen or so sorties a week which just keeps ISIS stirred up against us (although the only way to make peace without violence is to accept their view of things).
Provide humanitarian aid to friendly areas, make live miserable in areas we don't control.
Some may call this brutal but trying to negotiate with them is like trying to negotiate with a rabid dog.
You may not like taking these actions, I don't, but sometimes what has to be done is "unpleasant".

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Yes you do.
Hope you are doing well.
I have said this several times, but I don't believe you were in those threads.
First, arm the Kurds, Yazidi, and anyone else willing to put boots on the ground. Holds down our casualties and it means they own their independence which they will then cherish more than if we just give it to them.
Give them all the air support they need, not a dozen or so sorties a week which just keeps ISIS stirred up against us (although the only way to make peace without violence is to accept their view of things).
Provide humanitarian aid to friendly areas, make live miserable in areas we don't control.
Some may call this brutal but trying to negotiate with them is like trying to negotiate with a rabid dog.
You may not like taking these actions, I don't, but sometimes what has to be done is "unpleasant".

How about this. Rather than troll Internet boards demanding plans like some brain-addled moron, we form a government. Have that government build a military, a really good one. Give them all kinds of fantastic toys, many of them top secret that people like you and me couldnt even imagine

Then we choose someone who is really smart and loaded with testosterone to head all of that up. We could call that person a leader, or commander-in-chief. Something like that.

Then we build a military think tank, to brainstorm military ideas. Call it, oh... I dont care. Whatever the building theyre in looks like. Hire all of the best minds in the business... Then our LEADER could consult with the PENTAGON as well as other nations in the world as well as those groups in the area specifically threatened by ISIS, and come up with a REAL plan, rather than a make believe pretend plan that some knuckle dragging troll demands from other posters in order to derail and obfuscate an otherwise intelligent, interesting discussion

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Have that government build a military, a really good one.

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First, arm the Kurds, Yazidi, and anyone else willing to put boots on the ground. Holds down our casualties and it means they own their independence which they will then cherish more than if we just give it to them.
Give them all the air support they need, not a dozen or so sorties a week which just keeps ISIS stirred up against us

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(although the only way to make peace without violence is to accept their view of things).

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Provide humanitarian aid to friendly areas, make live miserable in areas we don't control.

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Some may call this brutal but trying to negotiate with them is like trying to negotiate with a rabid dog.

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You may not like taking these actions, I don't, but sometimes what has to be done is "unpleasant".

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

While I don't necessarily disagree with any of your proposals, I am not certain that you have thought them through fully.

For instance, the groups that have proved most effective in fighting IS in Iraq are primarily the Shia militias, the Iranians and a distant third are the Kurds. So I take it that you are in favour of arming all these parties with the best weapons for the situation ...?

In Syria it's a bit more complicated but the parties that have taken the fight to IS are mainly Govt forces under Assad and Hezbollah. (Following your suggestions) arming both of these particular parties with the best weapons for the situation and providing air support would do the job. But it would also ensure Assad's continuing grip on power and give an enormous boost to Hezbollah politically and strategically (aside from giving them weapons that could be used against US allies like Israel). I'm not too sure how you might feel about this eventuality.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Yes you do.
Hope you are doing well.
I have said this several times, but I don't believe you were in those threads.
First, arm the Kurds, Yazidi, and anyone else willing to put boots on the ground. Holds down our casualties and it means they own their independence which they will then cherish more than if we just give it to them.
Give them all the air support they need, not a dozen or so sorties a week which just keeps ISIS stirred up against us (although the only way to make peace without violence is to accept their view of things).
Provide humanitarian aid to friendly areas, make live miserable in areas we don't control.
Some may call this brutal but trying to negotiate with them is like trying to negotiate with a rabid dog.
You may not like taking these actions, I don't, but sometimes what has to be done is "unpleasant".

How about this. Rather than troll Internet boards demanding plans like some brain-addled moron, we form a government. Have that government build a military, a really good one. Give them all kinds of fantastic toys, many of them top secret that people like you and me couldnt even imagine

Then we choose someone who is really smart and loaded with testosterone to head all of that up. We could call that person a leader, or commander-in-chief. Something like that.

Then we build a military think tank, to brainstorm military ideas. Call it, oh... I dont care. Whatever the building theyre in looks like. Hire all of the best minds in the business... Then our LEADER could consult with the PENTAGON as well as other nations in the world as well as those groups in the area specifically threatened by ISIS, and come up with a REAL plan, rather than a make believe pretend plan that some knuckle dragging troll demands from other posters in order to derail and obfuscate an otherwise intelligent, interesting discussion

All of that would be needed to follow my suggestions.
I would hope that generals would be able to improve on them.