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RE: Sore Loser -- Can't face the future - 9/3/2015 11:32:06 AM   
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you wish she would understand she understood she was wrong...and change her mind.
ok, wish in one hand, shit in the other, see which fills up first.



Yes but it's better than sitting around crowing about how happy you are that there are still ignorant bigots in the world like head in the clouds boy is doing.

just seems that you are after cloud for not agreeing with YOU...
as usual.



if that's the case then I guess you are after me for daring to suggest the little boy might be wrong about something. But it's hard to tell since you seem focused on me and haven't commented on whether you would be happier if she got a clue and changed her mind or stayed an ignorant bigot.

No Im after you for being a bullshit artist, maybe you missed my comments on page two
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4834892
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4834900
or even http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4834925

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RE: Kim Davis Jailed for Contempt in Kentucky Gay Marri... - 9/3/2015 11:55:13 AM   
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The record is 14 years...it will be interesting to see how long her "faith" stands up.

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RE: Kim Davis Jailed for Contempt in Kentucky Gay Marri... - 9/3/2015 11:56:31 AM   
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Last time I check this was the United States of America not the United States of Jesus.

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RE: Kim Davis Jailed for Contempt in Kentucky Gay Marri... - 9/3/2015 12:08:11 PM   
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The judge said that fining her wouldnt be a punishment as she has people who will pay it for her...that sending her to jail, would only affect her.

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RE: Kim Davis Jailed for Contempt in Kentucky Gay Marri... - 9/3/2015 12:12:01 PM   
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http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/09/04/us/kim-davis-same-sex-marriage.html?referrer=

ASHLAND, Ky. — A federal judge here on Thursday ordered a defiant county clerk jailed for contempt of court because of her refusal to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, despite a Supreme Court ruling against her.

The clerk, Kim Davis of Rowan County, was sent to jail after a hearing before Judge David L. Bunning of Federal District Court. The contempt finding was another legal defeat for Ms. Davis, argues that she should not be forced to issue licenses that conflict with her religious beliefs.

“The court cannot condone the willful disobedience of its lawfully issued order,” said Judge Bunning, who was appointed by President George W. Bush. “If you give people the opportunity to choose which orders they follow, that’s what potentially causes problems.”

Ms. Davis’s stance has put her at the center of political conflict.

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RE: Kim Davis Jailed for Contempt in Kentucky Gay Marri... - 9/3/2015 12:33:09 PM   
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I hope she likes jail house food?
What will she do if some yl in her company desides she is pretty and needs a g/f

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RE: Kim Davis Jailed for Contempt in Kentucky Gay Marri... - 9/3/2015 12:43:57 PM   
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ack... Stoopid phone...

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RE: Kim Davis Jailed for Contempt in Kentucky Gay Marri... - 9/3/2015 1:04:16 PM   
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/04/us/kim-davis-same-sex-marriage.html?emc=edit_na_20150903&nlid=69606674&ref=cta&_r=0

ASHLAND, Ky. — A federal judge here on Thursday ordered a Kentucky clerk jailed for contempt of court because of her refusal to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

The clerk, Kim Davis of Rowan County, was jailed after a hearing before Judge David L. Bunning of Federal District Court. The contempt finding was another legal defeat for Ms. Davis, who has argued that she should not be forced to issue licenses that conflict with her religious beliefs.

“The court cannot condone the willful disobedience of its lawfully issued order,” Judge Bunning said. “If you give people the opportunity to choose which orders they follow, that’s what potentially causes problems.”

Judge Bunning said Ms. Davis would be released once she agreed to comply with his order and issue the marriage licenses.

Ms. Davis tearfully testified that she had not hesitated to stand by her religious views and defy the courts. “I didn’t have to think about it,” she said. “There was no choice there.”


“Marriage is between one man and one woman,” she replied, before a lawyer asked her whether she had “the ability to believe marriage is anything else.”

Ms. Davis offered a terse response: “No.”

Later, one of the women who has unsuccessfully sought a marriage license in Rowan County, April Miller, told Judge Bunning that Ms. Davis’s stand “marginalizes us again.”

Judge Bunning left little doubt about his thinking, and said Ms. Davis’s explanation for disobeying his order was “simply insufficient.”

“It’s not physically impossible for her to issue the licenses,” he said. “She’s choosing not to.”

While many observers had expected the judge to declare Ms. Davis to be in contempt, few believed he would jail her on Thursday. But Judge Bunning said he thought merely fining Ms. Davis would not be enough to prompt her compliance.

As marshals led her from the courtroom, Ms. Davis said, “Thank you, judge.”


Thursday’s court ruling was the first since the Supreme Court on Monday turned down Ms. Davis’s appeal of an Aug. 12 ruling by Judge Bunning directing her to issue marriage licenses. The justices’ decision was expected to clear the way for same-sex marriages in Rowan County. But on Tuesday, the clerk and her employees again refused to issue licenses in Morehead, the seat of Rowan County.

Within hours lawyers for the couples who had initially sued Ms. Davis asked Judge Bunning to hold her in contempt.

Supporters and opponents of Ms. Davis gathered outside the federal courthouse here Thursday hours before she was due to appear. One man waved a rainbow flag — a symbol of the gay rights movement — while another clutched a flag that said, “Liberty.”

“We’re supporters of the rule of the law,” said David Wills, a computer programmer from West Virginia who was first in line and said he had arrived at 4 a.m. for a hearing scheduled to begin seven hours later. “It’s just really important to me that people be treated equally, fairly.”

Ms. Davis’s supporters, prepared with an ice chest filled with water, also gathered ahead of a hearing they called critical to protecting religious liberty in Kentucky and elsewhere.

“They’re taking rights away from Christians,” Danny Kinder, a 73-year-old retiree from Morehead, said of the courts. “They’ve overstepped their bounds.”

“I’ve been praying about it, and we just have to turn it over to the Lord,” he said. “She has got to stand for what she believes, and I have to stand for what I believe, and I’m behind her 100 percent.”

oh man, that will teach me to cut n paste while on the phone. my apologies.

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RE: Kim Davis Jailed for Contempt in Kentucky Gay Marri... - 9/3/2015 3:52:02 PM   
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It seems to me all she had to do was let any of her deputies that wished to do so, issue the certificates. Her son, also a deputy clerk, had said he would issue any and no action was taken. She sealed her fate not letting anyone else do the paperwork on moral grounds, although the link didnt mention if she was legally able to do so.

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RE: Kim Davis Jailed for Contempt in Kentucky Gay Marri... - 9/4/2015 10:45:14 AM   
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It seems to me all she had to do was let any of her deputies that wished to do so, issue the certificates. Her son, also a deputy clerk, had said he would issue any and no action was taken. She sealed her fate not letting anyone else do the paperwork on moral grounds, although the link didnt mention if she was legally able to do so.



I think her position was that she was the clerk and even if someone else did it it would be on her watch so to speak.
Who knows maybe she will take a liking to jailhouse food. She could shoot for the record...14 years will go by like .....?????.....hmmmm ahhhh 14 years

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RE: Sore Loser -- Can't face the future - 9/5/2015 11:07:36 AM   
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He's bat-shit crazy with a high posting volume devoid of any ideas, useful information, or analysis.


Must be embarrassing as hell, that you have devoted your life to trolling along behind someone like that


Cloudboy, you just got trolled by the Master of Trolls! You should take it as a compliment that Sanity took the time out of his busy existance of trolling, to speak to you.

Sanity, man, you weren't suppose to do that! Now he'll be more non-trollish, making better points, good arguments, with alot of supporting evidence. You just helped 'the enemy' grow stronger against conservative and libertarian bullshit!

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RE: Sore Loser -- Can't face the future - 9/5/2015 11:12:58 AM   
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I am trying to change my ways and let others walk in circles when engaging him.

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RE: Kim Davis Jailed for Contempt in Kentucky Gay Marri... - 9/5/2015 11:19:00 AM   
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The judge said that fining her wouldnt be a punishment as she has people who will pay it for her...that sending her to jail, would only affect her.


Usually a judicial ruling that involves a monetary fine would be paid directly by the individual. A judge could stipulate it further to say that no outsiders could give the person money. In that they have to work it off. If a person within the USA were to do such, with a Judaical ruling, the judge could order that person extradited from their state to Kentucky and face charges. Given that states have such 'treaties' it wouldn't take longer than the paper work being cleared to perform.

Judges have assigned such terms for fines in the past; wouldn't be unheard of. Failure to pay the fine results in actual prison time. Which would mean the person is removed from government. Thereby fixing the current problem in government. Once in jail for a long time; the media (and subsequently, the public) forget of her existence. There will be hold out conservative media; but then, they have no real credibility to begin with much less speak on.....

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RE: Sore Loser -- Can't face the future - 9/5/2015 11:21:28 AM   
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I am trying to change my ways and let others walk in circles when engaging him.


I usually cut a swath through all the bullshit he generates. The amount of resources he has to generate to produce all that bullshit is curious. Unfortunately, I use less resources destroying it. Its a game of attrition between Sanity and myself; and he loses without realizing the lost for a few pages. It's rather amusing at times....

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RE: Sore Loser -- Can't face the future - 9/7/2015 4:21:31 PM   
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Being smarter than a phoquing moron is something everyone should brag about?

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