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RE: Two US soldiers in Europe stop gunman. - 8/22/2015 3:15:57 PM   
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No, it was about some lunatic who worked it out, on the basis of a shitload of propaganda and what he thought was 'obvious' and 'common sense', that an entire demographic - viz, the French people - were the "enemy", without thinking beyond the propaganda about it.

If only everybody were like you, Sanity, that kind of lunacy would never happen. Someone like you would be *very* careful about working out who "the enemy" was, wouldn't you?


(Derp)

As if your Islamists friends arent (coincidentally, mind you) committing or attempting to commit similar mass atrocities over most of the planet



My "Islamists friends"?

Sanity, may I gently propose that you are a fruitcake?

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RE: Two US soldiers in Europe stop gunman. - 8/22/2015 3:23:23 PM   
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No, it was about some lunatic who worked it out, on the basis of a shitload of propaganda and what he thought was 'obvious' and 'common sense', that an entire demographic - viz, the French people - were the "enemy", without thinking beyond the propaganda about it.

If only everybody were like you, Sanity, that kind of lunacy would never happen. Someone like you would be *very* careful about working out who "the enemy" was, wouldn't you?


(Derp)

As if your Islamists friends arent (coincidentally, mind you) committing or attempting to commit similar mass atrocities over most of the planet



My "Islamists friends"?



Why do you act as though its your duty to lick their asses, if theyre arent your mates

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RE: Two US soldiers in Europe stop gunman. - 8/22/2015 3:58:50 PM   
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RE: Two US soldiers in Europe stop gunman. - 8/22/2015 4:49:51 PM   
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Would you please name my 'Islamist friends', Sanity? I don't recall getting cards from them last Christmas, and feel I should pull them up on it.


Worry not Peon...... It is Sanitys fall back position for when he is caught talking bollocks.

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RE: Two US soldiers in Europe stop gunman. - 8/23/2015 4:39:01 AM   
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Would you please name my 'Islamist friends', Sanity? I don't recall getting cards from them last Christmas, and feel I should pull them up on it.


I agree. Perhaps you should cancel the annual pot luck.

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RE: Two US soldiers in Europe stop gunman. - 8/23/2015 3:10:14 PM   
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In constitutional terms, "the militia" refers to a concept of a universally armed people. Congress organized the National Guard under its power to raise and support armies.

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The constitution has been changed.


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RE: Two US soldiers in Europe stop gunman. - 8/23/2015 4:54:58 PM   
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In constitutional terms, "the militia" refers to a concept of a universally armed people. Congress organized the National Guard under its power to raise and support armies.

The constitution has been changed.

https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-PGCo3xtzDGAlu1vt/DICK%20ACT%20ANNOTATED_djvu.txt

The constitutionally enumerated functions of the militia are, "to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasion" (Article I, Section 8, Clause 15). The National Guard is not hampered by those restrictions on its use and deployment (43% of U.S. soldiers in Iraq were from National Guard units). The Guard is a militia, but it is not the militia of the Second Amendment. The National Guard has been a deployable asset of the U.S. Army since 1933.

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RE: Two US soldiers in Europe stop gunman. - 8/23/2015 4:55:31 PM   
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Would you please name my 'Islamist friends', Sanity? I don't recall getting cards from them last Christmas, and feel I should pull them up on it.


I agree. Perhaps you should cancel the annual pot luck.


No idea what that means, THB. Sorry.

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RE: Two US soldiers in Europe stop gunman. - 8/23/2015 4:59:14 PM   
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Would you please name my 'Islamist friends', Sanity? I don't recall getting cards from them last Christmas, and feel I should pull them up on it.


I agree. Perhaps you should cancel the annual pot luck.


No idea what that means, THB. Sorry.


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RE: Two US soldiers in Europe stop gunman. - 8/23/2015 5:28:02 PM   
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Must be a phony story...

this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries ~Barack Obama

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What kind of mass violence was your president referring to?

We need some context to be sure it is in fact a phony quote

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RE: Two US soldiers in Europe stop gunman. - 8/23/2015 5:46:14 PM   
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Must be a phony story...

this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries ~Barack Obama


What kind of mass violence was your president referring to?

We need some context to be sure it is in fact a phony quote

Actually, I think what you need is to get out more often.

Obama said after the church shootings in Charleston that "this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries. It doesn’t happen in other places with this kind of frequency." The data shows that it clearly happens in other countries, and in at least three of them, there’s evidence that the rate of killings in mass-shooting events occurred at a higher per-capita rate than in the United States between 2000 and 2014. The only partial support for Obama’s claim is that the per-capita gun-incident fatality rate in the United States does rank in the top one-third of the list of 11 countries studied.

On balance, we rate the claim Mostly False.

Politifact

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RE: Two US soldiers in Europe stop gunman. - 8/23/2015 5:57:02 PM   
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The Guard is a militia, but it is not the militia of the Second Amendment.


The militia of the second amendment no longer exists. The cite explains why and how.







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RE: Two US soldiers in Europe stop gunman. - 8/23/2015 6:09:59 PM   
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"The chart does show that the United States has more mass shootings -- and more people cumulatively killed or injured -- than the other 10 nations combined, partly because it has a much bigger population than all but China."

....

Hmmm. I'd have thought that the next thing to do after that statement would be to compare the US's rate, proportionately, with that of the populations of *all the other 10 nations combined*.

And it really would be necessary to deal with the Presidents references to a) *type* of violence and b) *frequency* ... rather than skate by those two things as though they don't matter. The article just looks somewhat weaselly, as it stands.

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RE: Two US soldiers in Europe stop gunman. - 8/23/2015 6:51:57 PM   
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The Guard is a militia, but it is not the militia of the Second Amendment.

The militia of the second amendment no longer exists. The cite explains why and how.

Of course it exists, exactly as intended, in the form of an armed People.

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RE: Two US soldiers in Europe stop gunman. - 8/23/2015 7:33:15 PM   
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The Guard is a militia, but it is not the militia of the Second Amendment.

The militia of the second amendment no longer exists. The cite explains why and how.

Of course it exists, exactly as intended, in the form of an armed People.

K.



The militia of the 2nd amendment calls for regular meetings, with drill. It requires the Governor to appoint officers and a great many other things that the cited material deals with. All of which has been abolished. That people still have guns is hardly germane vis-a-vis an organization that has not existed in more than a hundred years

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RE: Two US soldiers in Europe stop gunman. - 8/24/2015 4:05:51 AM   
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Just watched them being awarded the legion d'honneur. That's no mean honour. Fab. Well deserved.

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RE: Two US soldiers in Europe stop gunman. - 8/24/2015 4:06:51 AM   
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RE: Two US soldiers in Europe stop gunman. - 8/24/2015 5:21:34 AM   
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Did one of your ISIS friends just send you that? Very helpful of him.

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RE: Two US soldiers in Europe stop gunman. - 8/24/2015 5:23:25 AM   
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You'd think that for receiving the Legion of Honor (US equivalent the Medal of Honor) the State Department could have come up with uniforms for the military personnel.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_FRANCE_TRAIN_ATTACK?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT




To be fair, I think it was all a bit of surprise event. Besides, to my mind, it all hits home that they were off-duty, 'ordinary citizens' at the time, dressed as they are.

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RE: Two US soldiers in Europe stop gunman. - 8/24/2015 5:48:46 AM   
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Just watched them being awarded the legion d'honneur. That's no mean honour. Fab. Well deserved.

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indeed


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