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RE: Leftist McCarthyism - 8/26/2015 7:28:36 AM   
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strange that mentally ill people who get shot by cops are ignored, called them for what they did, not how they suffered....so giving him a brain tumour is fair.
their hero is sick not an asshole...
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RE: Leftist McCarthyism - 8/26/2015 10:38:22 AM   
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Then you must have a problem with every person in elected office.


Some have a problem with those who occasionally lie...obviously some do not.

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Yes. Do I have a problem with what he was trying to accomplish? No.


What, precisely ,was he trying to accomplish?
Since you have a problem with those who lie, even occasionally, you then must have a problem with every person in office...Hillary, Barack, George W., Ronald, William, etc.

As for what he was trying to accomplish, try Google. It can be your friend.

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RE: Leftist McCarthyism - 8/26/2015 1:04:19 PM   
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As for what he was trying to accomplish, try Google. It can be your friend.


I am not a teenager. I was here when he was alive I know my opinions. You are absolutely right that google will give me some more opinions. None of that gives me any insight into your opinions. I would be interested in your opinions concerning what he was trying to accomplish.

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RE: Leftist McCarthyism - 8/26/2015 1:09:18 PM   
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Since you have a problem with those who lie, even occasionally, you then must have a problem with every person in office...Hillary, Barack, George W., Ronald, William, etc


You have only listed the current pervaracators...I think Ted Kennedy's mouth would explode if the truth were to find it's way in...well maybe not literally but I bet it would put a pretty good size kink in it. I think you would agree that lying is not a prerequisite for being a politician so perhaps it is genetic. I don't know that all politicians are liars but then I do not know all politicians so I can only speak to the ones I have known or read about.

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RE: Leftist McCarthyism - 8/26/2015 2:40:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez

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As for what he was trying to accomplish, try Google. It can be your friend.


I am not a teenager. I was here when he was alive I know my opinions. You are absolutely right that google will give me some more opinions. None of that gives me any insight into your opinions. I would be interested in your opinions concerning what he was trying to accomplish.

My opinion? He was trying, at first, to rid the State Department of communism. He then expanded that effort to try to ferret out other communists at work in areas of influence such as the written word and movies, television, theater. That's what he was trying to accomplish in a condensed nutshell. As I said earlier, I think he went overboard in some instances. I also feel that...in a way...he was guilty, at least somewhat, of trying to do the same thing that many on the left and right try to do today: stifle thought that they disagree with.

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RE: Leftist McCarthyism - 8/26/2015 3:21:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KenDckey
http://www.ijreview.com/2015/08/400406-denver-airport-halts-moment-chick-fil-opening-due-stance-gay-marriage/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Owned&utm_term=conservativedaily&utm_campaign=Culture

Someone more right leaning does or believes something that another more left leaning believes is wrong,

Solution: Take away their, and as appropriate, their employee livelyhood forever.


Many cities and even states are addition anti-discrimination laws that protect gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgender in America. Denver would be no exception it seems. Therefore when confronted by an organization that opposes such a viewpoint, it has to wieght the benefits against the expenses. This organization, Chik-Fil-A has a past of supporting groups and organizations that oppose the LGBT community. It is hard to determine if such policies are still active, given the CEO's and stakeholders being very 'tight lipped' on the subject matter since 2012.

I like that the media tried to reach out to Chik-Fil-A about this topic. Even more was the answer!

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Denver Chanel 7NEWS reached out to Chick-fi-A for a statement and received this response:

“Chick-fil-A is a restaurant company focused on serving great food and providing remarkable service to every single customer.

Chick-fil-A, Inc. and its franchised restaurant owners are equal opportunity employers, employing more than 75,000 individuals who represent many diverse viewpoints, opinions, backgrounds and beliefs.

We are humbled to be named to the 2015 ‘Top 10 Best Companies to Work For” list by 24/7 Wall Street and to be first in our category in customer satisfaction according to the 2015 American Customer Satisfaction Index.'”


Let's put it another way, so we can all enjoy the bullshit for what it is:

"How was your day at work?'

"Well Pluto is not consider a planet anymore. The bunnies are getting ready for a massive takeover of the planet. I dislike the color blue because it makes me sad. President Obama visited Boston to talk about the alien invasion that takes place after Jade Helm 15 ends. I like singing in the rain. Who makes peanut butter with garlic, cus I want some right now!"

Basically, Chik-fil-a doesn't answer the question. They answered with a lot of business bullshit. Maybe we should require them to do so before gaining access to the airport, eh? They want the profit, they answer the question in....CLEAR....terms. They don't want to answer, then they don't need the spot (or the profit it will generate). And their 'religious freedoms' are respected none the less.

I can see why none of the ten members are defending the company. Unlike Chik-fil-A, those people are answerable to the voting public.

Also, from FOX 'news', someone was trying to defend this:

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“This is a very dangerous precedent. It is a blatant and flagrant violation of the First Amendment.”


Sorry, but your business does not have a first amendment right to not answer a reasonable question with absolute bullshit, and then, be expected to be taken seriously. That's not how the 1st amendment works. Maybe Wayne Laugesen, the editorial page editor for the Colorado Springs Gazette, should chat with a lawyer on federal amendments some time. Might be an enlightening experience for him....


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RE: Leftist McCarthyism - 8/26/2015 4:43:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey
http://www.ijreview.com/2015/08/400406-denver-airport-halts-moment-chick-fil-opening-due-stance-gay-marriage/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Owned&utm_term=conservativedaily&utm_campaign=Culture

Someone more right leaning does or believes something that another more left leaning believes is wrong,

Solution: Take away their, and as appropriate, their employee livelyhood forever.


Many cities and even states are addition anti-discrimination laws that protect gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgender in America. Denver would be no exception it seems. Therefore when confronted by an organization that opposes such a viewpoint, it has to wieght the benefits against the expenses. This organization, Chik-Fil-A has a past of supporting groups and organizations that oppose the LGBT community. It is hard to determine if such policies are still active, given the CEO's and stakeholders being very 'tight lipped' on the subject matter since 2012.

I like that the media tried to reach out to Chik-Fil-A about this topic. Even more was the answer!

quote:


Denver Chanel 7NEWS reached out to Chick-fi-A for a statement and received this response:

“Chick-fil-A is a restaurant company focused on serving great food and providing remarkable service to every single customer.

Chick-fil-A, Inc. and its franchised restaurant owners are equal opportunity employers, employing more than 75,000 individuals who represent many diverse viewpoints, opinions, backgrounds and beliefs.

We are humbled to be named to the 2015 ‘Top 10 Best Companies to Work For” list by 24/7 Wall Street and to be first in our category in customer satisfaction according to the 2015 American Customer Satisfaction Index.'”


Let's put it another way, so we can all enjoy the bullshit for what it is:

"How was your day at work?'

"Well Pluto is not consider a planet anymore. The bunnies are getting ready for a massive takeover of the planet. I dislike the color blue because it makes me sad. President Obama visited Boston to talk about the alien invasion that takes place after Jade Helm 15 ends. I like singing in the rain. Who makes peanut butter with garlic, cus I want some right now!"

Basically, Chik-fil-a doesn't answer the question. They answered with a lot of business bullshit. Maybe we should require them to do so before gaining access to the airport, eh? They want the profit, they answer the question in....CLEAR....terms. They don't want to answer, then they don't need the spot (or the profit it will generate). And their 'religious freedoms' are respected none the less.

I can see why none of the ten members are defending the company. Unlike Chik-fil-A, those people are answerable to the voting public.

Also, from FOX 'news', someone was trying to defend this:

quote:


“This is a very dangerous precedent. It is a blatant and flagrant violation of the First Amendment.”


Sorry, but your business does not have a first amendment right to not answer a reasonable question with absolute bullshit, and then, be expected to be taken seriously. That's not how the 1st amendment works. Maybe Wayne Laugesen, the editorial page editor for the Colorado Springs Gazette, should chat with a lawyer on federal amendments some time. Might be an enlightening experience for him....


Joether, it's been pointed out...here and on past threads...that, despite the owners' PERSONAL beliefs, the company itself does not discriminate against lesbian, bisexual, gay or transgender people. The company does not discriminate against people because of their race, their religion or their gender. If you can find one incident of a successful lawsuit alleging such discrimination against the company itself, bring it forth.

Are you stating that company did something wrong by releasing a statement about the COMPANY'S policies and not the owner's personal beliefs? If so, what did they do wrong? Perhaps you're laboring under the ...mistaken...impression that the media is the sworn representative of the City Council and therefore, the citizens of Denver? That somehow, Chick-Fil-et is accountable to the press? Do you feel that same way about those we elect? Are they accountable to the media or to those that elected them?

Are you stating that what you've said on other threads that a business owner has the right to his own religious beliefs but not to impose them AT his place of work no longer is your belief? That now, a business owner has NO right to his own religious beliefs even outside of his business policies? That he has no right to take his OWN money and support causes you don't agree with? That his personal life, as well as his business practices should be scrutinized? Do you recommend that be followed from now on for every business person?
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RE: Leftist McCarthyism - 8/26/2015 8:18:27 PM   
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My opinion? He was trying, at first, to rid the State Department of communism. He then expanded that effort to try to ferret out other communists at work in areas of influence such as the written word and movies, television, theater. That's what he was trying to accomplish in a condensed nutshell.



In the U.S. the Communist party is legal. So what he did was illegal right? He used the power of his office to stiffle thought that he did not approve of.



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As I said earlier, I think he went overboard in some instances. I also feel that...in a way...he was guilty, at least somewhat, of trying to do the same thing that many on the left and right try to do today: stifle thought that they disagree with.


How many of those on the left and right have the power of a senate seat behind them?
You say on the one hand you approve of his goals(which were to stiffle political thought) and here you say you have some reservations. What was it that he did that was legal?

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