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RE: Another Officer down - 11/12/2015 3:12:54 PM   
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RE: Another Officer down - 11/12/2015 4:33:30 PM   
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Health problems that the stupid military doctors couldn't find. Plus working out of the AFSC that I was testing in.



I am pretty sure that military doctors go to the same doctor school that all other doctors go to


One of ours wanted my wife to take penicillian and see if she had gotten over her allergy to it.
Two of them diagnosed a genetic problem which put pressure on the nerves as stress.
And the whole damn hospital couldn't figure out that I had a serious problem with nutrasweet in 11 years.
Walter Reed misplaced my first wife, unfortunately they found her.
You know full well that their mission isn't to keep people healthy, it is to keep them on the job.

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RE: Another Officer down - 11/12/2015 4:36:17 PM   
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There is nothing higher than top secret in the DoD (you either went L or Q) if you did nukes you got an L.

Sorry. There is no upperechelondoublesecretprobationoverthetopclearance.

I did intellegence work. We had special clearances which were more restrictive than TS and for which TS was a prerequisite.

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RE: Another Officer down - 11/13/2015 9:36:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nope. Need to know. Thats all. I know something about it. Not 'above' Top Secret. Just need to know.

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RE: Another Officer down - 11/13/2015 10:19:41 AM   
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Nope. Need to know. Thats all. I know something about it. Not 'above' Top Secret. Just need to know.

If that is the way you want to look at it, fine.

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RE: Another Officer down - 11/13/2015 10:29:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		It is the only way to look at it, because that's all it is. It is how it is. It is what it is. It is nothing else.

If you were in intelligence you should know it, even if it took 15 years or more to get to E5.

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RE: Another Officer down - 11/13/2015 10:39:09 AM   
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It is the only way to look at it, because that's all it is. It is how it is. It is what it is. It is nothing else.

If you were in intelligence you should know it, even if it took 15 years or more to get to E5.

Took a lot less than 15 to make e-5. Soon after that I started working outside my official job discription and had to test against people actually in it and an into health problems an cronic misdiagosis which wrecked my carreer.

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RE: Another Officer down - 11/13/2015 11:16:10 AM   
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It is the only way to look at it, because that's all it is. It is how it is. It is what it is. It is nothing else.

If you were in intelligence you should know it, even if it took 15 years or more to get to E5.

Would you be terriblely offeneded if we stayed with the subject of the thread ather than making me the issue? I believe that makeing a poster the subject is still a TOS violation.

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RE: Another Officer down - 11/13/2015 11:58:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am not making you the subject, I am pointing out that in several areas as has been demonstrated, you lack not only a je ne sais quoi but a basic veracity.

You are sort of making yourself an object of the discussion here, with your rather unconcerned lack of examinations over cops killing people but are quite curiously questioning the least bit of string thrown about the ones the cops have killed.

I expect it is your querencia when confronted with fact.

You go and run your flags up the pole, and I will run mine.

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RE: Another Officer down - 11/13/2015 1:10:32 PM   
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There is nothing higher than top secret in the DoD (you either went L or Q) if you did nukes you got an L.

Sorry. There is no upperechelondoublesecretprobationoverthetopclearance.

I did intellegence work.

You were a phoquig mp As an m.p you are required to hold a clearance equal to what ever you are guarding. If you are the guard in a building that contains t.s. data then you have to have a t.s. clearance. It does not mean you have access to it.

We had special clearances which were more restrictive than TS and for which TS was a prerequisite.


If those clearances existed then you should be able to post some validation for your opinions. It has been pointed out to you on numerous occasions that there is no higher clearance than t.s. There are catagory riders for t.s. but not a superior clearance level. Always it is based on a need to know. If one has a t.s. and wants to look at something that is simply confidential but none of his business then his t.s. ammounts to nothing.


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RE: Another Officer down - 11/13/2015 3:47:31 PM   
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It is the only way to look at it, because that's all it is. It is how it is. It is what it is. It is nothing else.

If you were in intelligence you should know it, even if it took 15 years or more to get to E5.



He said he was in "intellegence"..... maybe that is a different branch ?

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RE: Another Officer down - 11/13/2015 4:43:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

There is nothing higher than top secret in the DoD (you either went L or Q) if you did nukes you got an L.

Sorry. There is no upperechelondoublesecretprobationoverthetopclearance.

I did intellegence work.

You were a phoquig mp As an m.p you are required to hold a clearance equal to what ever you are guarding. If you are the guard in a building that contains t.s. data then you have to have a t.s. clearance. It does not mean you have access to it.

We had special clearances which were more restrictive than TS and for which TS was a prerequisite.


If those clearances existed then you should be able to post some validation for your opinions. It has been pointed out to you on numerous occasions that there is no higher clearance than t.s. There are catagory riders for t.s. but not a superior clearance level. Always it is based on a need to know. If one has a t.s. and wants to look at something that is simply confidential but none of his business then his t.s. ammounts to nothing.


I have told you repeatedly that I was not an MP in the Air Force.
I was breifly an MP in the National Guard during a break in service with the Air Force.
Also as I pointed out, making me the subject of the thread is a violation of TOS.

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RE: Another Officer down - 11/14/2015 6:32:27 AM   
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It is the only way to look at it, because that's all it is. It is how it is. It is what it is. It is nothing else.

If you were in intelligence you should know it, even if it took 15 years or more to get to E5.




He said he was in "intellegence"..... maybe that is a different branch ?

military intelligence being a contradiction in terms, is more the case.


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RE: Another Officer down - 11/14/2015 11:19:49 AM   
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It is the only way to look at it, because that's all it is. It is how it is. It is what it is. It is nothing else.

If you were in intelligence you should know it, even if it took 15 years or more to get to E5.




He said he was in "intellegence"..... maybe that is a different branch ?

military intelligence being a contradiction in terms, is more the case.


The problem is who gets the intelligence, we had times when we would send info, then Carter would base his decisions on what we had allegedly told him, but it was the opposite of what we had said.

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RE: Another Officer down - 11/15/2015 5:36:25 PM   
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The problem is who gets the intelligence, we had times when we would send info, then Carter would base his decisions on what we had allegedly told him, but it was the opposite of what we had said.

Let me see if I understand you. The president did not make the same decission you would have made so that means that since carter was a democrat he is a communist traitor or a fool?

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RE: Another Officer down - 11/16/2015 10:54:57 AM   
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yes I understand your tactic is to flood with hyperbol and starwman and than in so doing refuse to answer the question.... but answer the question you yourself posed....

cause cut and paste works just fine for me.....
[/quote]
Ok what message are you talking about?
[/quote]

you want to be a little more specific... hyperbole remember???

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RE: Another Officer down - 11/16/2015 10:57:56 AM   
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yes I understand your tactic is to flood with hyperbol and starwman and than in so doing refuse to answer the question.... but answer the question you yourself posed....

cause cut and paste works just fine for me.....

Ok what message are you talking about?


you want to be a little more specific... hyperbole remember???

No hyperbole, when you said good for the person who wrote the message were you refering to the save a iife, kill a cop message?

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RE: Another Officer down - 11/16/2015 10:59:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

There is nothing higher than top secret in the DoD (you either went L or Q) if you did nukes you got an L.

Sorry. There is no upperechelondoublesecretprobationoverthetopclearance.

I did intellegence work.

You were a phoquig mp As an m.p you are required to hold a clearance equal to what ever you are guarding. If you are the guard in a building that contains t.s. data then you have to have a t.s. clearance. It does not mean you have access to it.

We had special clearances which were more restrictive than TS and for which TS was a prerequisite.


If those clearances existed then you should be able to post some validation for your opinions. It has been pointed out to you on numerous occasions that there is no higher clearance than t.s. There are catagory riders for t.s. but not a superior clearance level. Always it is based on a need to know. If one has a t.s. and wants to look at something that is simply confidential but none of his business then his t.s. ammounts to nothing.


I have told you repeatedly that I was not an MP in the Air Force.
I was breifly an MP in the National Guard during a break in service with the Air Force.
Also as I pointed out, making me the subject of the thread is a violation of TOS.


Well report him then ooopps you didn't think of that before you went into rant mode? wow you were an NG that is very clear now..... think twice type once.....lol

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RE: Another Officer down - 11/16/2015 11:03:37 AM   
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http://www.ijreview.com/2015/09/411491-female-officer-checking-disabled-vehicle-man-appeared-unthinkable/?author=jc&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=owned&utm_campaign=crime&utm_term=ijamerica

Seems like someone declared war on the Police lately.


who is shooting the police in the foot?, it is usually themselves and no one else

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RE: Another Officer down - 11/16/2015 11:05:28 AM   
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Thanks Stef...............That cleared up the confusion.


stef can be very helpful when she wants to be....

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