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And yes that also means I am calling bullshit on your claim "Medical doctors all agree that there is no such thing as an unborn baby." but you already knew that didn't you?

You may call my opinions by the words that feel comfortable in your mouth. Until you can come up with a validation for your opinion it will remain just that.
So the next time you are chatting with your doctor and he refers to a fetus as a baby ask him point blank is he being patronizing to you because he percieves you to have a limited vocabulary or is a fetus medically a baby? If you wish to play word game please go find someone your own age because no adult on this board will indulge that sort of nonsense as you discovered with Lucy.

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I would have thought that the medics would refer to a 'baby' when, for instance, talking to the parents and when the latter want said baby to come to term. On the other hand I'd bet they'd refer to a 'foetus' or an 'it' amongst themselves, also with the mother/father in the context of talking about, say, an abortion. My feeling is that, for the most part, the medics don't want to involve themselves in the ethical or religious debates, partly because it's not their province and aren't qualified to do so. They're medics and want to practise their medicine.

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I would have thought that the medics would refer to a 'baby' when, for instance, talking to the parents and when the latter want said baby to come to term. On the other hand I'd bet they'd refer to a 'foetus' or an 'it' amongst themselves, also with the mother/father in the context of talking about, say, an abortion. My feeling is that, for the most part, the medics don't want to involve themselves in the ethical or religious debates, partly because it's not their province and aren't qualified to do so. They're medics and want to practise their medicine.

I would suspect you are correct. And I think it also has a lot to do with how the individual views abortion. To make the claim that ALL doctors think the same way about any subject is bullshit. And that was pretty much the point I was making before lucy tried to make it into a personal attack against her.

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I was talking about the live births and I am having a hard time believing you couldn't figure that out on your own.

Not until the 14 week ultra sound. they were "its"... yanno most doctors dont or didnt use baby until the first trimester is over because miscarriages are more likely then.
Now my last live birth was 24 years ago...but my first was 35 years ago and it died at 5 months gestation, they called him a dead fetus., they wouldnt let me hold him, took him away to the incinerator.
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you wanted to make it personal, go right ahead.
I realise things have changed in those 25 years, but this is you ignoring the topic and bullshitting again.
The fire at the clinic has been ruled as arson, but you wanna ignore that part...
one of my kids was born in the UK the other two were born in canada. for what its worth.

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You are the one who made the bullshit claim and then tried to play games. I merely pointed it out to you. Sorry if that bothers you but it is what it is.

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But, a conservative can't say anything about left wing extremists without being accused of not saying anything against right wing extremists, so I'm just getting ahead of that rebuttal.

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To make the claim that ALL doctors think the same way about any subject is bullshit.

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That conservatives don't call for punishment of right wing nuts just like they do for left wing nuts.

• A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
  
• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
  

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That conservatives don't call for punishment of right wing nuts just like they do for left wing nuts.

Agreed. Just wanted to leave nothing to spinmeisters.

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You are the one who made the bullshit claim and then tried to play games. I merely pointed it out to you. Sorry if that bothers you but it is what it is.

When you produce a medical doctor who backs up your fantasy please feel free to show us all. Until then you may continue to stamp your feet and pout.

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To make the claim that ALL doctors think the same way about any subject is bullshit.

Funny how I never said that. I am pretty sure I mentioned that doctors are aware of the difference between a fetus and a baby which you, for reasons known only to yourself, refuse to acknowledge.

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Death Threats On Abortion Providers Spike [/size][/color]

For forty-some years, death has been more than a "threat" for millions of un-born babies, but why trouble ourselves over a genocide?
Michael

Medical doctors all agree that there is no such thing as an unborn baby.

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To make the claim that ALL doctors think the same way about any subject is bullshit.

Funny how I never said that. I am pretty sure I mentioned that doctors are aware of the difference between a fetus and a baby which you, for reasons known only to yourself, refuse to acknowledge.

Liar

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Death Threats On Abortion Providers Spike [/size][/color]

For forty-some years, death has been more than a "threat" for millions of un-born babies, but why trouble ourselves over a genocide?
Michael

Medical doctors all agree that there is no such thing as an unborn baby.

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To make the claim that ALL doctors think the same way about any subject is bullshit.

Funny how I never said that. I am pretty sure I mentioned that doctors are aware of the difference between a fetus and a baby which you, for reasons known only to yourself, refuse to acknowledge.

Liar

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Death Threats On Abortion Providers Spike [/size][/color]

For forty-some years, death has been more than a "threat" for millions of un-born babies, but why trouble ourselves over a genocide?
Michael

Medical doctors all agree that there is no such thing as an unborn baby.

It would appear that your ignorance would include language as well as anatomy and physiology. That all doctors agree on a medical definition is somewhat different than "all doctors think the same way on some subject". Your ability to try to pick flyshit out of pepper would seem to indicate your agenda and your ignorance.