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That's a cute dance step, but you know as well as I do, or should, that the connotations attached to hatred go far beyond merely an "intense dislike". They include contempt, loathing, abhorrence, malevolence, scorn, and spite.

K.

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Inferring "hatred" as the motive behind views with which you disagree is a cheap mind-reading trick, and there is no moral superiority in being a hater yourself by hating hate.

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i haven't been following the thread and so some of this already might have been touched on:

monica Crowley, a conservative radio host and fox news contributor recently returned from a trip to Europe where among other things, she witnessed the topic of this thread.

her impression: there are few women and children compared to men of "fighting age," that it felt more like an invasion as opposed to a crisis immigration and the locals she spoke with are fearful for their safety because of some of the actions of the immigrants.

http://www.billoreilly.com/show?action=viewTVShow&showID=4031&dest=/pg/jsp/community/tvshowprint.jsp

here's a transcript:

http://financearmageddon.blogspot.com/2015/10/europe-migration-crisis-this-is-invasion.html

as an eye witness for weeks in Munich central station (where all trains from Hungary and Austria terminate) I can only state the opposite of what that lady gives as her summary. Proportions of sexes vary over the hours and from day to day as families are usually transported together and with priority, so there are days when there are single trains with predominantly males travelling alone (should make sense when you think about it).

That lady does not give any places, dates, names of witnesses ("a Czech doctor" and the like - btw that one's statements (read in the second link) are simply absurd, talking about illnesses he claims not to able to name - a medical student has to learn these things as an undergraduate) - in short, no hard evidence for anything. All the "scary" parts - no evidence, where, when, and what.

That lady has no clues about serious journalism

I seriously hope not all the sources informing you about the situation are like that

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An independent Czech TV news presenter read a descriptive letter from a Czech doctor who works at a German hospital overrun by migrants.

Czech TV host Petr Richard Ortek:
"Since last weekend, migrants going to the hospitals must be accompanied by police with K-9 units. Many migrants have AIDS, syphilis, open TB and many exotic diseases that we, in Europe, do not know how to treat them. If they receive a prescription in the pharmacy, they learn they have to pay cash. This leads to unbelievable outbursts, especially when it is about drugs for the children. They abandon the children with pharmacy staff with the words: “So, cure them here yourselves!”

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

i haven't been following the thread and so some of this already might have been touched on:

monica Crowley, a conservative radio host and fox news contributor recently returned from a trip to Europe where among other things, she witnessed the topic of this thread.

her impression: there are few women and children compared to men of "fighting age," that it felt more like an invasion as opposed to a crisis immigration and the locals she spoke with are fearful for their safety because of some of the actions of the immigrants.

http://www.billoreilly.com/show?action=viewTVShow&showID=4031&dest=/pg/jsp/community/tvshowprint.jsp

here's a transcript:

http://financearmageddon.blogspot.com/2015/10/europe-migration-crisis-this-is-invasion.html

as an eye witness for weeks in Munich central station (where all trains from Hungary and Austria terminate) I can only state the opposite of what that lady gives as her summary. Proportions of sexes vary over the hours and from day to day as families are usually transported together and with priority, so there are days when there are single trains with predominantly males travelling alone (should make sense when you think about it).

That lady does not give any places, dates, names of witnesses ("a Czech doctor" and the like - btw that one's statements (read in the second link) are simply absurd, talking about illnesses he claims not to able to name - a medical student has to learn these things as an undergraduate) - in short, no hard evidence for anything. All the "scary" parts - no evidence, where, when, and what.

That lady has no clues about serious journalism

I seriously hope not all the sources informing you about the situation are like that

she wasn't there as a journalist, she was there on vacation.

and she is not the originator of what she is claiming; rather she is affirming what other people are reporting.

as to the medical information that was reported in my link, that had nothing to do with monica Crowley, it was just along for the ride so to speak, but...

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An independent Czech TV news presenter read a descriptive letter from a Czech doctor who works at a German hospital overrun by migrants.

Czech TV host Petr Richard Ortek:
"Since last weekend, migrants going to the hospitals must be accompanied by police with K-9 units. Many migrants have AIDS, syphilis, open TB and many exotic diseases that we, in Europe, do not know how to treat them. If they receive a prescription in the pharmacy, they learn they have to pay cash. This leads to unbelievable outbursts, especially when it is about drugs for the children. They abandon the children with pharmacy staff with the words: “So, cure them here yourselves!”

...he doesn't mention "illnesses he cannot name," he talks about illnesses that they are ill-equipped to treat because of their lack of familiarity with them.

i cant watch this so I cannot speak to its validity, but here it is nonetheless:

https://fuhrerious88blog.wordpress.com/2015/10/09/must-watch-videowhistleblower-doctor-explains-horrific-reality-dealing-with-muslim-invaders-in-germany/

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Christian and Muslim refugees should be housed separately, says German police chief

As attacks on Christians in asylum seeker centres increase and religious groups clash, Jörg Radek says refugees should be separately accommodated... Christian and Muslim refugees should be housed separately in Germany to minimise tensions following growing levels of violence... "The police have reached their absolute breaking point," said Mr Radek.

But hey, things will be ever so much better once they're released into the German population.

The clashes were over food, not Religion... All this from your link.

Yeah, no. Nothing at the link says that the clashes were over food, only that the first clash occurred at the canteen. If the headline is wrong about Radek's status, the fact remains:

Mr Radek’s comments follow calls from German MPs from across the political spectrum for better protection for Christians, Yazidis and other religious minorities in asylum accommodation.

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On Sunday, 300 Albanians clashed with 70 Pakistanis in a shelter in the town of Kassel-Calden in the German region of Hessen after two refugees had brawled over the dispensation of food. 14 people including three police officers were injured in that fighting, as reported by the German media.

Source https://www.rt.com/news/317229-refugees-clash-german-center/

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Your link doesn't say (quelle surprise). All it says is that the clash was (not over food but rather) over the dispensation of food, which might mean anything. And in any case that's just one instance. It also notes that similar conflicts have taken place in Suhl, Leipzig and Bonn. Additionally, from your link:

More than 200 refugees engaged in a mass brawl in a shelter in the German city of Hamburg, leaving several people injured in a third such incident in Germany this week. A scuffle between two large groups of Syrians and Afghanis broke out in a crowded refugee center in Hamburg on Wednesday and lasted all through the day till late night, according to local media.

The groups were attacking each other with iron bars and wooden pieces of furniture as well as were throwing rocks. The refugees have also set a dustbin on fire. Four people were injured in the clashes. Two teenagers, 16, suffered lacerated head wounds with one 18 year old man and a member of a security service being also injured, the German newspaper Bild reports, citing police sources.

Police had to bring in as many as 50 officers to take the situation under control and managed to stop the fighting by 2 a.m. with the police patrols still present at the scene on Thursday morning. The investigators are now questioning the witnesses. According to police reports, the causes of the brawl are yet not clear, with no arrests made so far.

The two scuffles in Hamburg were just the latest in a series of brawls in German refugee centers.

Are we having fun yet?

K.

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You need to leave your coloured crayons in the playpen. Any grown up will explain simple English to you and point out why"Food" is the subject and "dispensation" is the verb.

And you need to realize that you're an illiterate fuckwit. The "clash" is the subject; "food" is the object of the verb in that sentence.

K.