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joether -> RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? (9/5/2015 12:21:13 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Sanity
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ORIGINAL: MercTech
Of the people I actually know, am related to, or talk to often; not one of them thinks the U.S. should be playing Sheriff with a posse all over the world. Outside of the beltway; the only people I've even heard of liking U.S. foreign policy are the oil companies that get to pump middle eastern oil while our troops keep them safe.
Its amazing to me how many bought into the propaganda which suggested that American soldiers were sneaking Iraqi oil out in their canteens
I write this, because American companies didnt get any Iraqi oil field contracts to speak of.
That Iraq was about Texas oilmen is pure, unfounded propaganda
Initially, we had to be as involved in Middle eastern affairs as we were due to the Soviets' encroachments there. Many dont understand this, but the Cold War was for real, and the Middle East was the prime battle ground
Which explains why leftists (Soviet Union loving bitches that they are) always have their panties in a wad over our efforts there, and work overtime to mischaracterize / propagandize what happened there
Now we are fighting Islamists, the new darling of insane leftist freaks
Dig deeper and discover the truth if you want to be free
How did the Bush family makes its millions? The Oil Industry. They happen to be friends with the Saudi Royal Family and the bid Laden family (whom handle construction projects in the Middle East). They had problems getting direct access to the oil in Iraq because Saddam didn't want to 'play ball'. So when a 'bin Laden' family member attacked the USA on 9/11/01, the Bush administration used it as justification to attack, invade and control Iraq. Once Iraq was under military control, the oil was directed as the Oil Companies in America dictated. The facts saw otherwise to your view point.
Here's a neat link of information....
..That shows Oil imports from Iraq to the United States. If oil actually came in, it would be due to AMERICAN companies. Since they are the ones with the most logistics in place. Therefore, they were getting oil, by contract, from Iraq. That is what's known as the 'Oil Futures' market. An how how did they get the oil contracts?
Given that the United States....OWNED....Iraq in 2003-2011, that would provide more than enough time for long term contracts to be created. Since no one told the Iraqis when the United States might leave, they were forced to make deals. With American Oil Companies.
Therefore, that defeats most of your arguments.
Further you try to suggest that those on the left do not have as much right to government as those on the right. If that is true, than those on the right should have been quiet from 2008 to 2014. But they weren't were they, Sanity? Therefore, if the right can speak up about government; so can the left. Dont like it? Tough shit, get a better argument in the future!
One would think conservatives would have learned from historical events in the Middle East. That they would be the one group in American whom is NOT in favor of going into ANOTHER Middle East Nation and fucking shit up. Thereby creating a bigger problem in the future. Because that is what happened in Iraq. The Bush administration destabilized that region, thus, creating ISIS. You would have us believe that by voting Republican/Tea Party, that we'll just go in....AGAIN....wipe out ISIS and Iran....and then the Middle East will be one big happy and peaceful place? With no further negative shit?
You really got to get your facts straight. Perhaps if you had dug deeper than one milometer into the 'ground' of US History, you would know all this....
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