BamaD
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There are a few problems here. First, is that any less than Effective confiscatory laws have had and will have zero effect on law breakers, by definition, the problem. Even the POTUS admits none of his proposed laws would have any effect on the recent tragedies. If the country is seeing over a $100 Billion in drugs come over the border yearly and into every neighborhood on North America, at the cost of the most imprisoned society in history, how are a few more laws going to change a violence prone society? ANY idea how many fully auto shoulder arms are in armories in every NG facility in the US?? Or how well 3D printing works now?
IMHO, the real advance in public safety comes from full effort by local, state and Feds to enforce and maximally penalize criminal gun use and trafficing, far from the reality of mostly politically motivated individuals with no motivation to actually solve problems besides getting headlines for showy arrests.
And the widely known result of every serious study on gun and social violence, actually in-place comprehensive public mental health programs that use state of the art techniques and trained personnel. Maybe even less prevalent than co-operating enforcement structures between locals, state and feds. We KNOW how to lower social violence, but legislatures won't budget for it, instead spending far more for prisons that we know are wastes of money and human lives. Just keeping at risk teenagers in some sort of school to become basically literate cuts every criminal stat going dramatically. This has to be a bit more focused and knowledgeable than DARE programs which never have done squat.
Second is the above mentioned move to advance any restriction as far as possible instead of making reasonable progress in useful directions. Almost always ignoring real benefits to gain bigger headlines. The general ignorance of small arms and ammunition ballistics has made most detailed laws from stupid to bizarre. Anti-gun people and groups who know only what they see in Hollywood violence exploitation pics with people using infinite magazine super weapons made to look even more dangerous means no useful regulation Could come from them.
What is ignored is that we have to change the People, weapons are just means to ends. And a Hell of a lot more dangerous weapons are moving to the street and through labs every day now than firearms. The first weaponized drone that is used on the US public in a mass killing is going to be a shock, except to anyone with a education. And it won't be by a Islamic Fundamentalist. Read Wired for a couple of months if this isn't clear. Like legislating against IEDs, how ya gonna outlaw pressure cookers used for evil purposes?
Bioweapons are soon to be everywhere as the new gene splicing is used for good purposes and the tech gets widespread. Like a hammer or a .22, intent is the difference, not the tool. Lots of people with evil intent was bad enough with swords, spears and bows and arrows. Our growth as tool using animals changes nothing but the body count. Changing the culture that determines the mind set and stability of the people is where the rubber has to hit the road. There Have been relatively non-violent cultures! Given Hollywood exploitation pics and the convergence of mass media to 'reality' shows, there is little hope here. What are your kids watching tonight? Vicious people behaving badly? First shooter games? Who's helping the strange kid down the block learn to participate in the world around him instead of plotting revenge for the savage bullying the other kids on the block regularly deliver. Including most of those of 'good' parents.
Gun laws are stupidly simplistic answers to far more complicated problems than most activists on either side want to address. Anyone who realistically figures how to enforce an effective gun control soon realizes the police power necessary is the biggest danger to the Constitution ever. Some solution to public safety.
Well thought out post.
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