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RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) - 9/15/2015 6:42:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: Kana

Kana taketh, but He does not giveth.

And I'm straight up about it.
One of us belongs on their knees, mouth open.
It ain't Me.

And this is exactly where I was going..I am noticing a trend that seems to break along the "master vs dom" and "sub vs slave" line. Especially those that limit themselves to the "M/s" dynamic...

Another thing I am noticing is that, like me, many slave types don't consider "enjoying" "thrashing" " squirming" to be "doing something". I was initially surprised by the number of people who interpreted "Not doing anything" as someone laying flat on their back...literally NOT moving. To me, if I am not actively pleasuring my partner then I am not DOING anything...

I don't think my distaste for receiving comes from me being submissive- to clarify.

I basically only ever receive because I'm submissive. If going down on me brings him great pleasure, and it's not about me reaching orgasm, sure do it. Believe it or not, some men just like it that much dominant or not. I don't think it's fair to pigeon hole anyone based on their lean.

To crumpets: I've been with several men who didn't like receiving head. One would get too sensitive and bust early. Another just didn't like the sensations and so forth. Another just really felt I had the control when his dick was in my mouth, so he wouldn't do it.

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RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) - 9/15/2015 7:22:15 AM

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My distaste in receiving oral sex comes solely from my absolute disappointment with oral sex.

The problem is, as an oral sex virgin, you keep reading about or hearing about all these raves about how wonderful oral sex is gonna be.

But then, as you go through with oral sex, from your first experience to your 30th experience maybe, the "wonderful feelings" keeps eluding you and, it's so boring that I can just read a book and forget there is a man in my pussy. That I start asking myself, why bother?

I love intense orgasms, and I love to scream, I love my head to explode, and I love to see stars. And the crazy thing is my clit so sensitive that I can multiple cum instantly when a man strokes my clit with his fingers, but tongue...., nothing.

Receiving oral sex gives me none of these sensations.

It's seriously over-rated.

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RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) - 9/15/2015 7:34:40 AM

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Thank god we arent all the same. Slate me as another for whom it IS a requirement.
For 40 years Ive enjoyed it. For 40 years I havent , slept with, married or dominated anyone who wont give.
Ive always enjoyed sex, but if he isnt any good with his mouth and tongue...yeah, I lose interest fast.
Or rather would.

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RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) - 9/15/2015 12:27:24 PM

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I think there are both men and women who like oral sex, and both men and women who dislike it. The side of the sheets is not an indicator of their desire.

You got your bell curve, even in kink, yanno?

Me? I am in the massive love the lipstick on my dipstick deviation and percentile.

If someone is offering an airstart and can use their tongue like the ropestart on a suzuki string trimmer, I am the Codex Romanus of the perfect statistic for that little job.

Seconded

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RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) - 9/15/2015 1:16:16 PM

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For crying out loud. Even if I didn't get pleasure from receiving oral, I'd still get endless joy from strangling the gash with my cock.
Fuck.
I can spend hours making a wench wretch and drool, listening to her gurgle for air, watch her convulse and heave when I pull out, see the need to serve glisten in her eyes behind the tears, the gasp as she goes down for another plunge.
Chortles
Teach her that pleasing Me is more important than breathing.
Beats the snot out of watching football.
Shit like that is why being a dominant is where it's at.

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RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) - 9/15/2015 6:49:15 PM

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Receiving oral sex gives me none of these sensations.

It's seriously over-rated.

Out of curiosity, there are two things which came to mind reading this.

One is, why wouldn't the men who went down on you have been using their fingers along with the tongue action?

An oversimplification, but a woman's body is like a finely tuned musical instrument, and no two are exactly alike. It takes practice and skill to make a woman's body sing.
Some men either don't have the talent, or the desire to learn how to play a new instrument. They may only know how to use a harmonica, for example. Give them a set of Incan pan pipes or Scottish bagpipes, and they're a hot mess.

The other is, for any submissive ladies who might care to answer, having to do with your submissive nature. D/s aside, when you've had sex partners, do you feel you have to play a passive part by not expressing your erotic desires once you both are in the throes of passion?
Not wanting to give any direction because you don't feel right about "taking charge" in the beginning with a new lover?
Or else not wanting to bruise a man's ego or hurt his feelings, so you just go with the flow and end up feeling dissatisfied? (Even to the extent of faking an orgasm)
Because most men who care about their partners' pleasure want to know what they can do to rock your world, instead of having a partner who expects them to read minds.

You see, I've never known, much less expected any man to instinctively know how to play this instrument or how to read my body map.
For as long as I can remember being sexually active, I don't give it a second thought to show them what I like, how I like it, how long I like it for, whether to slow down or speed up, what takes me to the edge, when I'm ready to come -- and once they've gotten in sync with me, then how many times I feel like coming during any given sexual encounter between us.

DreamLady

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RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) - 9/15/2015 7:23:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: dreamlady

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Receiving oral sex gives me none of these sensations.

It's seriously over-rated.

The other is, for any submissive ladies who might care to answer, having to do with your submissive nature. D/s aside, when you've had sex partners, do you feel you have to play a passive part by not expressing your erotic desires once you both are in the throes of passion?
Not wanting to give any direction because you don't feel right about "taking charge" in the beginning with a new lover?
Or else not wanting to bruise a man's ego or hurt his feelings, so you just go with the flow and end up feeling dissatisfied? (Even to the extent of faking an orgasm)
Because most men who care about their partners' pleasure want to know what they can do to rock your world, instead of having a partner who expects them to read minds.

You see, I've never known, much less expected any man to instinctively know how to play this instrument or how to read my body map.
For as long as I can remember being sexually active, I don't give it a second thought to show them what I like, how I like it, how long I like it for, whether to slow down or speed up, what takes me to the edge, when I'm ready to come -- and once they've gotten in sync with me, then how many times I feel like coming during any given sexual encounter between us.

DreamLady[/color]

See this is what I think many people are missing...it is not just the technique or not enjoying the sensation...and everyone seems believe that the sub just wants to lie there when it is the EXACT OPPOSITE...it is more to do with NOT having a task!! Have you ever seen an old TV show where the couple is having a party and the man sits down and is content to watch the game or talk..? The wife on the other hand is asking people what they want to drink, is putting out snacks, answering the door..and if she DOES sit down (because someone says, "oh you should be enjoying the party not waiting on everyone") it is obvious that she is NOT enjoying herself and that she was actually more engaged when she HAD tasks!!

Same thing...except insert "sex" for "party" and "sub" for "hostess wife"

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RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) - 9/15/2015 7:25:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: dreamlady

The other is, for any submissive ladies who might care to answer, having to do with your submissive nature. D/s aside, when you've had sex partners, do you feel you have to play a passive part by not expressing your erotic desires once you both are in the throes of passion?
Not wanting to give any direction because you don't feel right about "taking charge" in the beginning with a new lover?
Or else not wanting to bruise a man's ego or hurt his feelings, so you just go with the flow and end up feeling dissatisfied? (Even to the extent of faking an orgasm)
Because most men who care about their partners' pleasure want to know what they can do to rock your world, instead of having a partner who expects them to read minds.

DreamLady

Whether it's a new lover or we're in an established relationship, I don't feel giving direction or telling him what works for me and doesn't work for me is "taking charge". My Dom wants to know what makes me tick and after all our years together he knows my body very well but at times I need something other than what he's doing at the moment, he has no issues with me telling him. If telling a man what I like and need bruises his ego or hurts his feelings, then he's not the man/Dom for me.

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RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) - 9/15/2015 7:29:40 PM

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The other is, for any submissive ladies who might care to answer, having to do with your submissive nature. D/s aside, when you've had sex partners, do you feel you have to play a passive part by not expressing your erotic desires once you both are in the throes of passion?

Since im on the bottom side I'll share... im not passive when it comes to sex(unless im half asleep... then it tends toward passive resistance, where I position myself to make it really difficult unless they really want it). But I tend to only have agressive energy, or playful... I feel awkward letting someone else do all the work, just like I feel awkward if im, say, tied down and cant move. Ill just freeze up and stare like a deer in the headlights until someone gives me something to do.

When going down on girls I tend to be the aggressor. Throw them on my shoulders against the wall, or grab them by the hips and drag them up to me, switching just to fingers periodically to smile and tease. I tend to hold them firmly with a free hand since I think the touch distracts from overstimulation, gives the brain more to focus on.

Though I've been scarred. I haven't done it in a while because of a time I was taking care of a girl while an ex was with her girlfriend in the front of the car, it was at an outdoor party so not exactly private. She had cum a couple of times and was quivering and screaming "more more" I was already up to my elbows. When pulled back and yelled "what you want me to add a leg too!" Everyone within a hundred feet was laughing and she looked horrified. I was immediately apologizing but the poor girl was so embarrassed I doubt she let someone touch her again for some time.

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RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) - 9/15/2015 8:12:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: dreamlady
One is, why wouldn't the men who went down on you have been using their fingers along with the tongue action?

Because I LOVE fingers touching me, and that would be cheating. The pleasure I get will purely be from fingers, and not from the tongue. So it still does not prove that oral sex is enjoyable.

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The other is, for any submissive ladies who might care to answer, having to do with your submissive nature. D/s aside, when you've had sex partners, do you feel you have to play a passive part by not expressing your erotic desires once you both are in the throes of passion?

I have faked enthusiasm if I didn't want to hurt a guy's feelings, yes. At the same time, I have been completely blunt too and it didn't result in any change or improvement as the guy just don't get it.

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Because most men who care about their partners' pleasure want to know what they can do to rock your world, instead of having a partner who expects them to read minds.

It depends on the dynamic, as a woman, you are very intuitive. Some men you can feel have giant egos and telling them they aren't doing a good job will result in conflict and even if they have giant egos, some of them are rather quite nice and you don't really want to hurt their feelings.

The ones who genuinely care about my pleasure will ask me along the way, and explore and be very earnest on what works best, those get honesty from me, because they asked genuinely.

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RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) - 9/16/2015 12:38:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Thank god we arent all the same. Slate me as another for whom it IS a requirement.
For 40 years Ive enjoyed it. For 40 years I havent , slept with, married or dominated anyone who wont give.
Ive always enjoyed sex, but if he isnt any good with his mouth and tongue...yeah, I lose interest fast.
Or rather would.

Same requirement here. I see nothing submissive about a Dominant man going down on me. In fact, the more enthusiastic a guy is, the more multiple orgasms he gives me, the more interested I am. I wouldn't dream of being with someone who didn't like oral.

When I was very young sub, I met an older Dom. I kind of liked him until our third date when he told me he wanted me as his sub but his rule was he never, ever allowed his sub to cum and said it wasn't dominant to go down.

I said, thank god you told me before I ever fucked you. He was stunned and that was the very first time I heard that charming refrain..."Well! You are obviously not a real submissive!"

I laughed and walked out on him.

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RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) - 9/16/2015 12:49:32 AM

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Anyway, 9.9999999% out of 10 guys I meet, are crazy about giving oral, dominant or not, vanilla or kinky.

I find it more difficult to find men who doesn't want to give me oral, so I think you ladies who love oral is fine with the unlimited supply available.

Infact right now, my BIGGEST problem is, I can't freaking find a man who doesn't keep bugging me to allow him to perform oral on me.

To them, it's always, what's the big deal, all I got to do is lie back and relax.

And to me, it's like, OMG, not again!

So if you ladies meet any man who refuse to give you oral, please send him to my door, it's been difficult meeting one.

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RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) - 9/16/2015 1:48:56 AM

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Anyway, 9.9999999% out of 10 guys I meet, are crazy about giving oral, dominant or not, vanilla or kinky.

I find it more difficult to find men who doesn't want to give me oral, so I think you ladies who love oral is fine with the unlimited supply available.

Infact right now, my BIGGEST problem is, I can't freaking find a man who doesn't keep bugging me to allow him to perform oral on me.

To them, it's always, what's the big deal, all I got to do is lie back and relax.

And to me, it's like, OMG, not again!

So if you ladies meet any man who refuse to give you oral, please send him to my door, it's been difficult meeting one.

This is why two of my owners didnt have tongues

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RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) - 9/16/2015 2:04:35 AM

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This is why two of my owners didnt have tongues

I'm envious, I hope I am lucky enough to end up with a dom or a man who doesn't use his tongue.

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RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) - 9/16/2015 7:07:09 AM

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I'm envious, I hope I am lucky enough to end up with a dom or a man who doesn't use his tongue.

You do not enjoy a good tongue lashing?

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RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) - 9/16/2015 7:22:12 AM

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
You do not enjoy a good tongue lashing?

Detest it. Literal one and the other meaning. Both.

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RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) - 9/16/2015 7:23:10 AM

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Anyway, 9.9999999% out of 10 guys I meet, are crazy about giving oral, dominant or not, vanilla or kinky.

I find it more difficult to find men who doesn't want to give me oral, so I think you ladies who love oral is fine with the unlimited supply available.

Infact right now, my BIGGEST problem is, I can't freaking find a man who doesn't keep bugging me to allow him to perform oral on me.

To them, it's always, what's the big deal, all I got to do is lie back and relax.

And to me, it's like, OMG, not again!

So if you ladies meet any man who refuse to give you oral, please send him to my door, it's been difficult meeting one.

I feel exactly this way. Current man hates giving oral so we are pretty happy hahaha

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RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) - 9/16/2015 4:29:49 PM

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The following should be considered a TMI post. If you don't want to hear about my sex life, leave now.

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ORIGINAL: TieMeInKnottss
So, I ask...

1) Is the giver/receiver idea true? It has been also pointed out that it is even a difference between subs and slaves. Regardless of gender, do those on the sub/slave side really prefer to give? For me, part of it is I HATE laying there with nothing to do LOL...I just assumed it was because of my ADHD!

No. Please give up on that giver/receiver stuff and try to attest it to the D or s side of the slash. When people do that, all they succeed in is cheating themselves (or their partners) out of really, good freakin' sex. I can promise that I can be laying back, legs in the air, being the "receiver" and I'm still damn sure going to be Dominant. If you think I'm not, if I'm having a really good orgasm, chances are I don't give a rat's ass what other people think, anyway.

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2). Is it really just vanilla guys trying to get laid with the whole "I LOVE to go down on a woman" claim? it seems like every guy now swears that it is their favorite activity!

I used to know a guy who would lick his mustache for *days* after the event. No kidding. Only good story he ever told me about advice his father gave him. "Son, someday you are going to meet a woman that you love so much that you are going to want to taste her on your breath." He wasn't kidding about it.

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3) if you like receiving..WHY?? Ok, men, I get the attraction...Women. Why? Other than the whole "nothing to do" I have never known a man that could be as rough and aggressive with his tongue as he can be with his dick.

It's all about the orgasms, hon.

I don't do 'rough and aggressive' on me. I hate to be cliche but it my case, it's more like worshiping. At least some.

Oh, and by the way, if during this act I have a moment to look at that ceiling and actually contemplate it? YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!!!

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RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) - 9/16/2015 5:28:19 PM

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Oh, and by the way, if during this act I have a moment to look at that ceiling and actually contemplate it?

I want her to concentrate on not getting a cramp in her legs that are wrapped around my neck

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RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) - 9/16/2015 5:52:55 PM

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This is good, too. <grin>

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