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Greta75 -> RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) (9/19/2015 9:57:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2 And you just can't tell them they're lousy at it. Too big an ego hit. I suspect that's what happens for a lot of women who don't like it. I usually give them 5 minutes, then I say, I don't like it. And I gotta start the, it's not you, it's me explanation ha. Perhaps alot of men are bad at it, no wonder I hate it.

crumpets -> RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) (9/19/2015 9:59:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul I don't care what they say to each other. When they are hitting on women, many brag about it, and women roll their eyes. As I said, but, you didn't seem to understand, that's a failing of men. Most/many/some/all/I-don't-know-how-many-but-the-complaints-from-women-indicate-it's-a-lot men talk to other women like they're talking to other men. They don't disconnect their brains to switch gears into hey-this-is-a-woman mode. Did you ever watch or hear construction workers whistling at "broads" walking by in the street? What "mode" do you think they're in at that time? Do you think they whistle at their mother? Or sister? Men need to switch modes. Some don't do it. If they did, we wouldn't hear this complaint so often. What's absolutely perfectly acceptable in much of what men do (with men), is wholly inappropriate when conversing with women. Two totally different things. Some men don't make the switch adeptly enough for many women. That's my only point with respect to that particular post.

crumpets -> RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) (9/19/2015 10:07:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 And I gotta start the, it's not you, it's me explanation I have always been absolutely astounded by the many comments from women that they have to, somehow, "protect" the, apparently, I-don't-know-where-they-get-this-idea-from fragile "ego" of men. Men, all the time, call other men dick fuckers, cock suckers, ass wipes, pencil dicks, jerkoffs, douchebags, pussys, wussies (i.e., wet pussies), faggots, babies, wimps, etc. (the list goes on and on but this sampling should make the point). We "converse" that way, at least, when we're around other men (and, of course, in a wholly casual and not-at-all-professional situation, such as with customers or bosses within earshot). We call each other wops and spiks and jewboys and micks, and polocks and the "n" word (men among men of that ilk, at least), and a whole universe of deprecating words. After all that mostly deprecating banter, throughout our entire life, from our fifth-grade-potty-mouth stage to the end of our lives, do you REALLY think anything a woman tells us is going to, somehow, hurt our (apparently incomprehensibly fragile) ego?

Greta75 -> RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) (9/19/2015 10:18:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 And I gotta start the, it's not you, it's me explanation I have always been absolutely astounded by the many comments from women that they have to, somehow, "protect" the, apparently, I-don't-know-where-they-get-this-idea-from fragile "ego" of men. Men, all the time, call other men dick fuckers, cock suckers, ass wipes, pencil dicks, jerkoffs, douchebags, pussys, wussies (i.e., wet pussies), faggots, babies, wimps, etc. (the list goes on and on but this sampling should make the point). We "converse" that way, at least, when we're around other men (and, of course, in a wholly casual and not-at-all-professional situation, such as with customers or bosses within earshot). We call each other wops and spiks and jewboys and micks, and polocks and the "n" word (men among men of that ilk, at least), and a whole universe of deprecating words. After all that mostly deprecating banter, throughout our entire life, from our fifth-grade-potty-mouth stage to the end of our lives, do you REALLY think anything a woman tells us is going to, somehow, hurt our (apparently incomprehensibly fragile) ego? When men insults another men, they just punch each other, get over it, then are buddies again. They got a different way of dealing with each other. Whereas, when a female give feedback about their manly lackings, they can't react in a physical violence way, so they become verbally abusive towards you. And many of us women, choose not to deal with that outcome. Better to be motherly and treat him like a little boy. Anyway, men with no fragile egos, will not even brag they are good, infact, they would be checking all the way, if this works, or that works. Those we can give constructive feedback with no issues. It's when they brag about how good they are, and when they suck, it's sticky, I prefer not to deal with the drama of telling them they suck.

Wayward5oul -> RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) (9/19/2015 10:19:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul I don't care what they say to each other. When they are hitting on women, many brag about it, and women roll their eyes. As I said, but, you didn't seem to understand, that's a failing of men. Uh, as a matter of fact I do understand it is a failing of men. I believe that was the whole point of what I said. What you fail to understand is that your explanations do not make what I said any less true. You keep trying to explain why they do it. I was not talking about why they do it. I was just talking about how annoying it is.

longwayhome -> RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) (9/19/2015 11:26:53 PM)
No matter how tough someone is, nobody likes negative feedback about what they are doing sexually, unless it is done sensitively. Some men may have an element of bravado about it but they are as vulnerable as a kitten when it comes to criticism about their performance. No different for women, they just don't pretend to be indifferent or tough. The point raised in previous posts is that some men unrealistically brag about (or at least talk up) their oral sex skills. I've often heard people mistake how much they enjoy something for how good they are at it. I always reckon that anyone who boasts about how good they are at anything sexually is on a hiding to nothing. Although there are similarities, everyone has a different pleasure map, both physically and mentally. Being good at any technique doesn't guarantee success. I'd rather have open minded and communicative every time.

NookieNotes -> RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) (9/20/2015 4:03:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul I don't care what they say to each other. When they are hitting on women, many brag about it, and women roll their eyes. As I said, but, you didn't seem to understand, that's a failing of men. Uh, as a matter of fact I do understand it is a failing of men. I believe that was the whole point of what I said. What you fail to understand is that your explanations do not make what I said any less true. You keep trying to explain why they do it. I was not talking about why they do it. I was just talking about how annoying it is. His major talent, from what I can tell, is mansplaining. He's a twoo master. quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome Although there are similarities, everyone has a different pleasure map, both physically and mentally. Being good at any technique doesn't guarantee success. I'd rather have open minded and communicative every time. I quite like you, so far.

longwayhome -> RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) (9/20/2015 7:15:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NookieNotes quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome Although there are similarities, everyone has a different pleasure map, both physically and mentally. Being good at any technique doesn't guarantee success. I'd rather have open minded and communicative every time. I quite like you, so far. So far! I'm off to take my overblown man ego for a sulk. The cheek of it. [;)]

NookieNotes -> RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) (9/20/2015 2:16:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome quote: ORIGINAL: NookieNotes quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome Although there are similarities, everyone has a different pleasure map, both physically and mentally. Being good at any technique doesn't guarantee success. I'd rather have open minded and communicative every time. I quite like you, so far. So far! I'm off to take my overblown man ego for a sulk. The cheek of it. [;)] Well, as they say, "We´d have been aware that our love affair was too hot not to cool down..." smiles

thompsonx -> RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) (9/20/2015 4:35:20 PM)
quote: When men insults another men, they just punch each other, get over it, then are buddies again. They got a different way of dealing with each other. In the movies maybe??? in the world of grown up men... when they decide to put their hands on one another it is not the movies. Google up disagreements between members of modified motorcycle clubs like the hells angels and the vagos.

longwayhome -> RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) (9/20/2015 5:57:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NookieNotes I quite like you, so far. quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome So far! I'm off to take my overblown man ego for a sulk. The cheek of it. [;)] Well, as they say, "We´d have been aware that our love affair was too hot not to cool down..." smiles Over before it had even begun. Oh the humanity. They say life can be harsh, but the insane cruelty mimics Greek tradegy. Ho hum. I still like the way you write and the fact you take no shit. The boards have been a revelation to me. Oh, I know they ain't what they used to be. What on the net is, since the big corporations got hold of so much of the traffic? Yet here and there flickers of light exist. I'd rather be here and part of the conversation, being sometimes trolled (and occasionally almost complimented!). For the record I love all types of head, for all sorts of reasons. Not liking it needn't be a dom/sub thing but if it doesn't float your boat, fair enough. Nuff said, unless of course you need to give your partner clues to help with your mutual enjoyment.

NookieNotes -> RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) (9/21/2015 3:18:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome I still like the way you write and the fact you take no shit. The boards have been a revelation to me. Oh, I know they ain't what they used to be. What on the net is, since the big corporations got hold of so much of the traffic? Yet here and there flickers of light exist. I'd rather be here and part of the conversation, being sometimes trolled (and occasionally almost complimented!). For the record I love all types of head, for all sorts of reasons. Not liking it needn't be a dom/sub thing but if it doesn't float your boat, fair enough. Wanna get a room? winks Pushing all my buttons (compliment, optimistic outlook, head), indeed!

longwayhome -> RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) (9/21/2015 5:40:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NookieNotesq Wanna get a room? winks Pushing all my buttons (compliment, optimistic outlook, head), indeed! Oh that pesky Atlantic Ocean. They do rooms round here? Really?

NookieNotes -> RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) (9/21/2015 6:38:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome quote: ORIGINAL: NookieNotesq Wanna get a room? winks Pushing all my buttons (compliment, optimistic outlook, head), indeed! Oh that pesky Atlantic Ocean. They do rooms round here? Really? Yes. Geography makes us all her bitch. Well, maybe not rooms, per se... sighs

crumpets -> RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) (9/21/2015 6:58:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 When men insults another men, they just punch each other, get over it, then are buddies again. They got a different way of dealing with each other. Whereas, when a female give feedback about their manly lackings, they can't react in a physical violence way, so they become verbally abusive towards you. You have a good point, which is that an actual INSULT was intended (and perceived). My prior post was about how men call other men who are fat, "fatso", and they call men with little dicks "pencil dick", and they call men who can't handle manly duties "wussies", etc., and where the statement was basically true. That is, if a guy has a five-inch dick, and another guy has a ten-inch dick, it's OK among men that the one calls the other a pencil dick. It's how we communicate the obvious. If one guy benches twice what the other guy can handle, one calls the other a wussy (which, again, is perceived just as it's stated). Men often communicate rather directly this way. Of course, since nobody is perfect, the "wuss" in this situation might notice that the heavy-duty lifter is the one with that five-inch pencil dick, so, the banter evens out at some point in the verbal sparring. However, what YOU just brought up are the actual INSULTS which are MEANT to be insults, and which are not meant to be perceived lightly. OK. This is a different story. Mostly, when I got called a wop in school, there was Hell to pay if I thought it was an insult (do I seem like the shy type?). Almost always, that meant we both got in trouble, but, then there were weapons such as rocks and ways to slice bicycle tires, and other ways of getting even (in my childhood was when I learned that the best revenge was to be served stone cold, while I am only recently learning that the best revenge is actually living well). Yes. I agree. When men truly insult men, there is generally a flurry of Hell to pay, and, then, it's all (almost) forgotten. It's a pretty quick flareup, which starts with standing your ground in a threatening non-retreating way, and always escalates to a flurry of the f-word as an adjective, noun, and verb, and maybe even a gerund, if we need to make the point. Once the f words start flying, the flags are up, and everyone KNOWS a battle is about to ensue. If the weaker guy suddenly realizes his peril and begins the process of backing off, in general, the f-word flurry served its intended purpose, and the fight is avoided. But, if it comes to fists, it comes to fists (and bats and rocks and other things - but - as a kid - we never used knives or guns - although I'm sure many did and still do). After one loses soundly, you can be friends again (or not), but the issue is solved for the most part. quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 And many of us women, choose not to deal with that outcome. Better to be motherly and treat him like a little boy. Anyway, men with no fragile egos, will not even brag they are good, infact, they would be checking all the way, if this works, or that works. Those we can give constructive feedback with no issues. It's when they brag about how good they are, and when they suck, it's sticky, I prefer not to deal with the drama of telling them they suck. I never said men don't have egos. I just said we men, in general, can handle the truth. We get the truth all the time. Figuratively, if I ride up to a biker and he nods assent and we race to the next light, one of us wins and the other loses. The truth is the truth. We get hit hard with the truth all the time. The quarterback throws the tight end the football, and the tight end drops it in the endzone, and, well, he gets called many things - and he knows he is all those things. We get hit with the truth of our failings every single day, every single moment, with every single thing we do with men. We either get that sale, or we don't. We either win the salesman of the year award, or someone else wins it. We either land that contract or we don't. We either win that race or we don't. We either get the beautiful blond, or we don't. We either buy the big house on the hill, or we don't. And on and on and on and on and on. I was just saying that if a lady tells us the truth while we're in bed, we can handle it. We're not fragile at all.

crumpets -> RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) (9/21/2015 7:22:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NookieNotes His major talent, from what I can tell, is mansplaining. He's a twoo master. I'm going to openly admit I do not understand at all what you're trying to say. Please explain it to me. Thanks. PS: I never said men don't have egos. I just said that we men, in general, can handle the truth about how good or bad we are in bed.

angelikaJ -> RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) (9/21/2015 7:25:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets I was just saying that if [someone] tells us the truth while we're in bed, we can handle it. We're not fragile at all. My guess is you haven't really been to bed with that many guys?

Greta75 -> RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) (9/21/2015 8:00:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ My guess is you haven't really been to bed with that many guys? AngelikaJ! Thanks for being back! Love ya posts!

crumpets -> RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) (9/21/2015 8:48:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ My guess is you haven't really been to bed with that many guys? I chuckled when I read that, mainly because I had NOT considered that this is very true. So, what the heck do I know about guys, in bed. The answer? Um. The truth? Um. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. That's why I chuckled. You got me. I have no defense, your honor; therefore, I wish to plead nolo contendere.

NookieNotes -> RE: Oral Sex (Calling Ron!!) (9/22/2015 4:13:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets quote: ORIGINAL: NookieNotes His major talent, from what I can tell, is mansplaining. He's a twoo master. I'm going to openly admit I do not understand at all what you're trying to say. Please explain it to me. Thanks. PS: I never said men don't have egos. I just said that we men, in general, can handle the truth about how good or bad we are in bed. From Wikipedia: quote: Mansplaining is a portmanteau of the words man and explaining, defined as "to explain something to someone, typically a man to woman, in a manner regarded as condescending or patronizing."[1][2] Lily Rothman of The Atlantic defines it as "explaining without regard to the fact that the explainee knows more than the explainer, often done by a man to a woman,"[3] and Rebecca Solnit ascribes the phenomenon to a combination of "overconfidence and cluelessness" that some men display.[4] When I said you are a Twoo Master, I mean at mansplaining. Which you just really got: quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ My guess is you haven't really been to bed with that many guys? I chuckled when I read that, mainly because I had NOT considered that this is very true. So, what the heck do I know about guys, in bed. The answer? Um. The truth? Um. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. That's why I chuckled. You got me. I have no defense, your honor; therefore, I wish to plead nolo contendere. So, yeah. Is that more clear?

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