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GoddessSinn -> FinDom and Bed Rep. (9/13/2015 8:50:14 PM)

Let me be brutally honest when I write out this post. Many may get offended, but that only means the truth has sunk in.

I have only just joined this site maybe and hour or so ago, and have browsed the forums and have come across many "FinDommes" asking where the "real subs at".
I myself practice as a legitimate FinDomme, I will not lie. But, keep in mind: I am educated, in college, have a job, and am mentally, physically and financially stable. I do not NEED their money; I WANT it for the pure power over these men. But what I am seeing on this site is not a Domme who is looking for the power exchange through money. No, what I see are unemployed "penny princesses" or "insta-dommes" as we call them. These "Dommes" are only looking for a quick, easy way to make money, which is rather pathetic. Men who want to invest their money in a FinDomme are looking for respectable, educated women who know what they're doing in terms of BDSM and kink, not just a money hungry, greedy, spoiled brat. Really. If you NEED money, please, go get a job.
I have seen more severe cases in which "Dommes" will have bankrupted a sub, leaving him homeless or without food. It is YOUR job as the Domme to take care of your sub: he is a human being and has the right to the basic necessities: food, water, shelter, clothing and mental stability.
Let me explain what FinDomme is, for these "Princesses" who feel they are entitled to every man's wallet.
Financial Domination is obviously centered around finances, but it goes much deeper than that. The men I speak with are submissives who are interested in Dominant women who not only love the cash exchange, but the general power exchange as well. You can't just spout 'WHERE'S MY MONEY' and expect a response.
BDSM in most forms requires connection, trust and dedication from both parties. Why would a man submit himself AND his finances to you without any knowledge of who you are or what you do? Even working primarily over the internet is generally a red flag, as it suggests you have no knowledge of Domination and how to carry it out.
This is DOMINATION after all: bullying a man and spitting insults at him is NOT FinDom, ladies! Domination is an art- something that cannot be faked for the sake of money. Female supremacy is the basis here.
I shall repeat it for the ladies in the back: INSULTS DOES NOT EQUAL MONEY.
FinDom also focuses on many other fetishes and kinks; most Dommes have a preference for one or the other, not just the money. So please, leave the FinDom to the professionals, and take your juvinile asses to the nearest hiring retail store before you even consider FinDom as a viable 'income'.

Love,
Sinn




crumpets -> RE: FinDom and Bed Rep. (9/13/2015 10:41:15 PM)

Sounds like a thinly veiled vain attempt at a commercial advertisement to me...




GoddessSinn -> RE: FinDom and Bed Rep. (9/13/2015 11:02:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: crumpets

Sounds like a thinly veiled vain attempt at a commercial advertisement to me...



Hardly. I have my own website for that. I am simply tired of others ruining what can be mutually beneficial. If you see it that way, so be it. Sad that no one can simply discuss anything on this site without making accusations. [:D]




TNDommeK -> RE: FinDom and Bed Rep. (9/14/2015 1:28:11 AM)

Its just that it has been discussed to death. I defend it every time someone complains, I try to explain the difference but really...its a rarity that people actually research and see. So, forgive us, be we are kinda numb to it.




Zonie63 -> RE: FinDom and Bed Rep. (9/14/2015 6:49:41 AM)

So does "Bed Rep." refer to "Bed Reputation"?




crumpets -> RE: FinDom and Bed Rep. (9/14/2015 12:35:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GoddessSinn
I am simply tired of others ruining what can be mutually beneficial.


As stated, there have been about six hundred and ninety-four of these threads in the past six hundred and ninety-five days, so, we're becoming inured to the topic.

Let's just say that you findommes are on to we men. Yup. Somehow, very cleverly, you penetrated our deepest of defenses, and, inexplicably you tapped our male brains without us getting the wiser, and, you found, of all things, that we were actually willing to part with our hard-earned money, so that we could get our sexual satisfaction sated.

Of course, if we simple-minded men had a willing girlfriend or obliging wife or, heck, just a sexually-nurturing next-door neighbor who satisfied our fetishio-sexual urges, we certainly wouldn't PAY to have them satisfied.

Your premise that we PAY to give YOU POWER, is patently absurd.

I realize you didn't say that - you said the opposite - which is that you GAIN POWER by MAKING US PAY - but you have to understand that the person holding the dollar bills has the power.
It's not the other way around.




TNDommeK -> RE: FinDom and Bed Rep. (9/14/2015 4:13:39 PM)

your last line is absolutely untrue, bc a Fin/Pro like me..will leave you standing by yourself, holding your little money. And while you may go find another, it isnt me. So, no, your money doesnt equal you having the power. Well, not a real Pro/Fin anyway.




crumpets -> RE: FinDom and Bed Rep. (9/14/2015 4:46:41 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

your last line is absolutely untrue, bc a Fin/Pro like me..will leave you standing by yourself, holding your little money. And while you may go find another, it isnt me. So, no, your money doesnt equal you having the power. Well, not a real Pro/Fin anyway.


I must admit, out front and on top, that I have never paid a findomme, so, I don't really know how it works.
I've paid for a hooker, which isn't the same thing. When "I" pay a hooker, she does what "I" want her to do.
If she doesn't agree, up front, she doesn't get paid up front.
Of course, if she doesn't do it, then, since the money is always up front, the money is lost, but then she gets a bad review on redbook (which is no longer, I think - I'm not sure - I haven't paid in a decade or more for anyone other than for a mistress - which is something else altogether).

Point is, you're gonna pay, no matter how you shake the dice; but, if you're gonna pay - then by golly - you're gonna be the one calling the shots.
At least that's how "I" see it.

You, of course, see it differently. Your clients, therefore, see it differently.
I accept that (since I have no experience in the way that you have experience).

I doubt there is a findomme on the planet who can hold sway over me.
But, they don't need me.

All they need are the sheep, who outnumber me, in droves.




SirDave501 -> RE: FinDom and Bed Rep. (9/14/2015 4:49:41 PM)

"legitimate FinDomme"
Similar to "military intelligence" and "jumbo shrimp"




crumpets -> RE: FinDom and Bed Rep. (9/14/2015 5:43:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SirDave501

"legitimate FinDomme"
Similar to "military intelligence" and "jumbo shrimp"



I don't know the number of topics, but, it's roughly about a score of topics here on the forums, where someone ALWAYS brings it down to the base level.

In the case of ANY thread mentioning the word "findomme", the thread always devolves into a discussion of whether a fin domme is a prostitute or not.

I do agree with those who say that the "classic" fin domme (which, I may be excused as defining locally as the score of models on the gates' web site) charge $180 an hour and, while you can touch the nice parts, there's no "classic" sex going on whatsoever.

Depending on the lady's preference, you might not even get her underthings off, for your hard-earned $180/hour.
All this, you negotiate ahead of time.

You don't negotiate the fee. You negotiate the acting and the wardrobe.
As always, you're in charge for as long as the money is in your hands.

Once the money exchanges hands, you've lost all your power over her.




LadyBerry -> RE: FinDom and Bed Rep. (9/14/2015 6:02:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: crumpets
Once the money exchanges hands, you've lost all your power over her.


First Rule of Acquisition: Once you have their money, you never give it back.




TNDommeK -> RE: FinDom and Bed Rep. (9/14/2015 6:45:38 PM)

Yes I do things completely different. Before money is exchanged or not, its always Me that is in charge. I think that itself is one of the main reason certain fin Dommes are laughed at or not taken seriously.
There are legit fin dommes, and they operate the same way or similar to how I do things.
I really feel the "fin dommes" you guys are running into are those idiots who have no clue what they are doing.
And in that instance Ill agree, legitimacy is out the window.

Crumpets, as far as the hooker issue, that is as it should be. She is there to provide a service to the john. I think that is sort of self explanatory.
This is completely different. Now as far as Pro Domming goes, with me, its the same thing. Its my way, what pleases me. I would assume the guys and gals looking for Me,
have fetishes that are in line with mine. Who knows.




thedeityspeaks -> RE: FinDom and Bed Rep. (9/14/2015 7:01:01 PM)

The only thing more misguided than looking for positive feedback regarding findom on this site is, your hackneyed attempt to distinguish yourself from other women.

When your inbox is bursting with fail mail, remember that you did it to yourself.

The term paypig comes from piggy bank. It isn't something you respect and you don't waste time on pleasantries with it. You take its plug out to remove money slowly or, you bash it with a hammer to empty it quickly. The same is true for anyone who identifies as a pay pig. Not all financial subs/fetishists use silly terms for themselves but, what they all have in common is the (implied) desire to pay. If you don't insist upon payment, guess what happens? They don't pay.

Quite a few of these men are married. They have real life commitments and responsibilities that will never take a backseat to their findom fixation. Quite a few of them aren't married but, they pretend to be. Why? Because infidelity is a mastubatory aid. Some of them "want to be controlled" based on the massive folder of pirated femdom porn on their hard drives. You really want to "connect" with these dudes? Think it through.

I sound incredibly jaded but, I know there are some gentlemen who engage in findom. These men want to be afforded the opportunity to connect. That's why they pay first.




TNDommeK -> RE: FinDom and Bed Rep. (9/14/2015 8:05:34 PM)

Your first sentence is a fail, as there have been plenty of positive feedback relating to fin Domme.




thedeityspeaks -> RE: FinDom and Bed Rep. (9/14/2015 8:20:59 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

Your first sentence is a fail, as there have been plenty of positive feedback relating to fin Domme.


The positive feedback comes from people who engage in findom. Occasionally, some folks take a subjective stance. Inevitably though, someone will derail with an opinion that is anti findom. I don't think anyone would argue that.




DaddySatyr -> RE: FinDom and Bed Rep. (9/14/2015 8:24:15 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyBerry

First Rule of Acquisition: Once you have their money, you never give it back.



How could someone not like a person that can quote the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition?



Michael




TNDommeK -> RE: FinDom and Bed Rep. (9/14/2015 8:24:34 PM)

That's true with the anti fin Domme however I have had ppl who are (I would say) anti fin Domme have nothing but positive feedback




crumpets -> RE: FinDom and Bed Rep. (9/14/2015 8:56:08 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TNDommeK
This is completely different. Now as far as Pro Domming goes, with me, its the same thing. Its my way, what pleases me. I would assume the guys and gals looking for Me, have fetishes that are in line with mine. Who knows.


If I understand you, the poor sap hands over both his hard-earned money and all control at the same time.

Yikes!

You sound like the GOVERNMENT.




TNDommeK -> RE: FinDom and Bed Rep. (9/14/2015 9:33:24 PM)

Well he isn't poor, as I've stated in previous threads, I prefer to conquer champions. ;)
But his control was handed over the moment we are on the same page.

I think I'll add that to my sig line: the Government lol




crumpets -> RE: FinDom and Bed Rep. (9/14/2015 9:56:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TNDommeK
But his control was handed over the moment we are on the same page.


I have to wrap my head around this concept since it is foreign to me.

Do I have this right yet?

The guy pays, roughly around $400/hour, to a female Domme, who then tells HIM what she will do with him?

If this is correct, what say does HE have in the matter?


(EDIT: Other than in the two of you agreeing, beforehand, on LIMITS & SAFEWORDS and other necessary minutia, such as nudity, touching, length of time, etc.).




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