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MercTech -> RE: Jade helm? conspiracy?not so much (9/17/2015 3:47:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: JVoV

The conspiracy theorists have already moved on to the Iran deal. They seem to be sticking with an EMP attack imminent on the US.


Will emp affect my 41 desoto?


Only if you are close enough to the epicenter it magnetizes your alternator and starter motor enough to lock them up. Half a block away should be enough. <snort> Good one.




Aylee -> RE: Jade helm? conspiracy?not so much (9/17/2015 5:23:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

I see Texas continues to set the standard and lead the world in the noble struggle to defend freedom.

Fresh from defeating the Federal conspiracy to deprive Texans of their constitutional rights impose martial law and instiute mass re-education in the dreaded FEMA concentration camps through the nefarious Jade Helm 'operation', Texas has now stuck another sterling blow in the fight against those eebil Mooselems, who are now using children fight for their evil cause and death cult. Freedom lovers everywhere will be inspired by news of the arrest of Ahmed the nine year old who brought a home made clock to school and got arrested for suspicion of making a bomb. Such vigilance is an example of how to preserve freedoms everywhere.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/16/homemade-clock-ahmed-mohamed-texas-officials-we-were-right

Freedom lovers will also be disappointed by the reactions of liberals like POTUS Obama and Mark Zuckerburg of Facebook who deliberately ignore the shocking potential dangers inherent in allowing of militant Mooselem fanatics like Ahmed running around playgrounds unsupervised, free to conduct their jeehad against all things good and Godly. Instead they posed irrelevant questions and accusations of racial profiling. Such pinkos will get sorted out very quickly and very permanently if they dare show their faces in good ole Texas, the centre of the freedom loving world.


Oh please. Did you look at the picture of that clock?

The kid did NOT make a home made clock. He took apart a digital clock and put it in a new box. Maybe tightened up a couple solder connections.

But that is about it.





Lucylastic -> RE: Jade helm? conspiracy?not so much (9/17/2015 5:29:05 PM)

yeah he really deserved to be arrested.
eebil lil mozzzelem[:-]
sheesh




Aylee -> RE: Jade helm? conspiracy?not so much (9/17/2015 5:35:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

yeah he really deserved to be arrested.
eebil lil mozzzelem[:-]
sheesh



I did not say that. I said that it was not a homemade clock.

And who waits hours to call the bomb squad? Once the electronics teacher said it was fine they should have went about their day. YOU brought up his religion and called it evil. Not me.




Lucylastic -> RE: Jade helm? conspiracy?not so much (9/17/2015 5:36:00 PM)

LMFAO> WHatever
[image]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPD0Nz6U8AAMQBK.jpg[/image]




thompsonx -> RE: Jade helm? conspiracy?not so much (9/17/2015 6:40:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MercTech


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: JVoV

The conspiracy theorists have already moved on to the Iran deal. They seem to be sticking with an EMP attack imminent on the US.


Will emp affect my 41 desoto?


Only if you are close enough to the epicenter it magnetizes your alternator and starter motor enough to lock them up. Half a block away should be enough. <snort> Good one.

They did not start putting alternators in cars until 1960.




MrRodgers -> RE: Jade helm? conspiracy?not so much (9/19/2015 10:47:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: MercTech


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: JVoV

The conspiracy theorists have already moved on to the Iran deal. They seem to be sticking with an EMP attack imminent on the US.


Will emp affect my 41 desoto?


Only if you are close enough to the epicenter it magnetizes your alternator and starter motor enough to lock them up. Half a block away should be enough. <snort> Good one.

They did not start putting alternators in cars until 1960.

Well plus the fact that while there is no shielding protection from EMP on 41 models, there are also no parts truly sensitive to EMP on a 41 model. The only way the 41 model could be damaged from EMP is if the pulse was so strong as to burn a short in the system.

That would be essentially impossible due to most EMP's being in the 50kv/m range or normally, much less. That's not enough especially given normal attenuation in 41 hardware. So no, the generator would not suffer from EMP and if the car could be started and operated before an EMP...it could be after.

It is all of the much more sensitive micro circuitry of newer models that would be with insufficient shielding, potentially vulnerable to EMP.

Experimentation on alternators began in the 40's, used in WWII and were in use in trucks and specialty units in the 50's. Chrysler had the patent and was the first to use alternators as standard equip. on their cars in 1960.




joether -> RE: Jade helm? conspiracy?not so much (9/19/2015 11:57:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
LMFAO> WHatever
[image]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPD0Nz6U8AAMQBK.jpg[/image]


Here are examples of people with class!




Kirata -> RE: Jade helm? conspiracy?not so much (9/19/2015 12:48:21 PM)


~ FR ~

Reverse Engineering Ahmed Mohammed's Clock

Ahmed Mohamed didn’t invent his own alarm clock. He didn’t even build a clock.

K.




joether -> RE: Jade helm? conspiracy?not so much (9/20/2015 12:55:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata
~ FR ~

Reverse Engineering Ahmed Mohammed's Clock

Ahmed Mohamed didn’t invent his own alarm clock. He didn’t even build a clock.


The kid has...what...for a scientific background? Handful of years in school learning theory and concepts. Maybe a few in practical applications. An he wants to impress someone beyond his family that he might have some real talent and drive to learn/do more. One would think that would be the educator. Failing that, the principle. Both those individuals failed in a major way! Those two should be held accountable. For all we know the scientist teacher does not have a background in science or engineering; its sadly more common than we liked to think in our nation.

An a engineer with many years of experience, whom went to college (i.e. he finished high school).

While the engineer does try to be objective, he fails at one of his arguments:

"For one last bit of confirmation, I located the pencil box Ahmed used for his project. During this video interview he again claims it was his “invention” and that he “made” the device – but the important thing at the moment, at 1:13, we see him showing the pencil box on his computer screen. Here it is on Amazon, where it’s clearly labeled as being 8.25 inches wide. Our eBay seller also conveniently took a photo of the clock next to a ruler to show it’s scale – about 8 inches wide. The dimensions all line up perfectly."

Sounds 'OK', right?

Notice the author does not talk about finding the information on Amazon but Ebay? Where is the link from Ebay?

Yes, he gives two images not to each other as 'proof'. Well, hell, I can do the same thing, thus, 'proving' that any GOP/TP candidate is 'OK' with Iran by placing a picture of them next to a diagram of a map of Iran. Would I get nailed on the forums for doing this? Oh FUCK YEAH! So why are you not attacking this engineer?

He never claimed to have invented the box. He claimed he placed the parts within the box. Funny how the engineering author left this convenient fact from his argument, eh?

For someone like you, Kirata, never noticed it. Someone like me, Kirata, tend to look over each piece of evidence objectively. That is why I spotted it and you did not!

Maybe the kid had used the plans and tried to 'jazz' it up. However, (to play Devil's Advocate), he wanted to get his science teacher's input of the initial design and maybe ask questions on how certain things could be added to it (an engineering perspective). Yet, was never allowed to go that far. In fact, maybe the kid had an evil motive? Or a good one? We'll never know given events.

Yet, many people in the nation seem to wish to give this kid a shot towards having a good future. Creating things in science and engineering. An he shouldn't be the only one either! Regardless of their skin color, name, or even religion; if they wish to improve humanity through technology....we should help them!

In care you are wondering, its not unusual for MIT to invite children interested in science and engineering to come to their school. They do it all the time. In fact, they love doing it. That others in science and engineering have invited him is not uncommon either. NASA has a whole camp devoted to the concept: Space Camp. The President of the United States of America understands what its like to be accused of falsehoods by the right wing. That all these people unit against the haters in our nation says this nation is still a good place to live!




MercTech -> RE: Jade helm? conspiracy?not so much (9/20/2015 2:07:51 PM)

I just shudder at the repressive climate in schools today.

I remember building a clock similar to that for show and tell in the 6th grade. Well, I had to use numerical vacuum tubes salvaged from some army surplus junk (busted radios) sold by the pound. LED displays were the newest thing and horrendously expensive. I didn't win the science fair with that project as the judges considered re-purposing boards out of other equipment to be just using manufactured technology.

It seems that being an autodidact is criminal these days.




thompsonx -> RE: Jade helm? conspiracy?not so much (9/20/2015 2:38:31 PM)

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Experimentation on alternators began in the 40's, used in WWII and were in use in trucks and specialty units in the 50's. Chrysler had the patent and was the first to use alternators as standard equip. on their cars in 1960.


Nah...ford had them way back when...but they were used for a different purpose(tickling the coil)never for recharging the battery.




MrRodgers -> RE: Jade helm? conspiracy?not so much (9/21/2015 10:02:23 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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Experimentation on alternators began in the 40's, used in WWII and were in use in trucks and specialty units in the 50's. Chrysler had the patent and was the first to use alternators as standard equip. on their cars in 1960.


Nah...ford had them way back when...but they were used for a different purpose(tickling the coil)never for recharging the battery.

That experimentation was for how the alt. is used for battery charging and what we see today. (also engine starting) You are correct about the first use, on the Model T and some Model A's. Most were started by hand cranking.




thompsonx -> RE: Jade helm? conspiracy?not so much (9/21/2015 10:50:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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Experimentation on alternators began in the 40's, used in WWII and were in use in trucks and specialty units in the 50's. Chrysler had the patent and was the first to use alternators as standard equip. on their cars in 1960.


Nah...ford had them way back when...but they were used for a different purpose(tickling the coil)never for recharging the battery.

That experimentation was for how the alt. is used for battery charging and what we see today. (also engine starting) You are correct about the first use, on the Model T and some Model A's. Most were started by hand cranking.


Kettering invented the first electric starter for cadilac . They were first installed in 1912.




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