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RE: Michelle Obama for President - 9/16/2015 9:42:10 AM   
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A man who went through multiple bankrupt and have risen as richer than ever, more financially healthy than ever?

His perfect, since he knew how to fix his own debts into surpluses. This is exactly the kind of experience USA need. They got trillions of debt to dig themselves out of it. And until now, they still keep debating about raising the debt ceiling and increasing that debt! That's horrible!


Have you a clue what a bankruptsie is? It is an admission that you are incapable of running the business you started and can't pay your creditors. It is the way trumph has fucked his creditors long deep and again.

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RE: Michelle Obama for President - 9/16/2015 9:44:26 AM   
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I cringe at the thought of Trump winning the election. His political credentials are nonexistent. His only real credentials are in his ability to build businesses, and rebuild if they fail. I have to give credit to the man for that.


Why would you give credit to a man who has fucked his creditors long deep and again?

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RE: Michelle Obama for President - 9/16/2015 9:48:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		I personally don't trust Michelle. Not because she is African American, My children are too. Not because she is a women. I can think of a few that I would vote for. Don't ask me to explain, because I can't. I just don't trust her to be the steward of our country.

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RE: Michelle Obama for President - 9/16/2015 9:50:15 AM   
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Actually it was some of his companies that went bankrupt, not him. It's not the same thing.


Really???What the fuck is it if it ain't him bankrupting the companies he owned and managed.Do you just open your mouth to change feet?

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RE: Michelle Obama for President - 9/16/2015 9:55:04 AM   
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I personally don't trust Michelle. Not because she is African American,



No that would clearly label you as a bigot.


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My children are too.



No they are not...you are white...look in the phoquing mirror.

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Not because she is a women. I can think of a few that I would vote for.



Cariboo barbie or ann coulter?


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Don't ask me to explain, because I can't.


The dictionary calls that prejudice.

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RE: Michelle Obama for President - 9/16/2015 9:56:28 AM   
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His net worth is 4 billion




And that right there is what makes me go hmmm. 4 billion personal wealth. Almost exact same $
number shareholders lost during the four bankruptcy's. (Trump Towers was bankrupt x2 IIRC)

OP. Trump is great at maintaining personal wealth but an argument can certainly be made that it
comes at great expense. He appears to be much better at creating debt than erasing it.. well,
for anyone but himself, of course.

I would say.. he's a very well-qualified pick-pocket.

Honestly, that's just my gut but I do trust my gut and give it weight when I decide who is going to
be my president.

When all is said and done, he was born here since his parents were kicked out of Germany and
he is of age. That's all one needs to be president.. Constitutionally speaking.

Michelle should run for Congress first. ;)


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RE: Michelle Obama for President - 9/16/2015 10:32:19 AM   
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A man who went through multiple bankrupt and have risen as richer than ever, more financially healthy than ever?

His perfect, since he knew how to fix his own debts into surpluses. This is exactly the kind of experience USA need. They got trillions of debt to dig themselves out of it. And until now, they still keep debating about raising the debt ceiling and increasing that debt! That's horrible!

...his projects have declared bankruptcy at least four times the US can't. He in doing so...shed billion$ in debt...the US can't. Next question.

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RE: Michelle Obama for President - 9/16/2015 10:34:28 AM   
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Why not Michelle Obama? She's probably one of the best first lady US has ever seen. I am not a fan of Obama, but I love Michelle Obama as a representation of a modern woman on how one can be good mom, biggest cheerleader and supporter of her husband, just being there for her man, while still maintaining her independence and chasing her own dreams and making changes that she believes is good.
If there is no one better for the next four years. Love to see Michelle Obama or Trump in the white house.
And looking forward to Kenya versus Trump 2020.


Being a good parent (male or female) doesn't make one Presidential. Being a cheerleader and supporter of your spouse (male or female) doesn't either. Neither means jack shit towards what kind of president one would be.

Didn't Hillary support her man? Wasn't she there for President Clinton, "while still maintaining her independence and chasing her own dreams and making changes that she believes is good?"

I cringe at the thought of Trump winning the election. His political credentials are nonexistent. His only real credentials are in his ability to build businesses, and rebuild if they fail. I have to give credit to the man for that. But, that doesn't make a person Presidential, either.

Other than being First Lady, what has Michele done that is indicative of her political ability? Hilary has actually been in politics outside of being First Lady. And, no, this is definitely not an "I support Hilary" moment. I cringe at her winning the election almost as much as I cringe over Trump winning.

But but...Michelle and the Donald, are...of the people. Harry Truman wasn't a 'politician.'

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RE: Michelle Obama for President - 9/16/2015 10:38:08 AM   
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No, not so.

He got his money from his father.

He went bankrupt 4 times. He kept a great deal of his stuff, and didn't pay people.

He is not as wealthy as he was when his father gave him his inheritance.

He owes a lot of people a lot of money, he is richer on paper than in his wallet.


You think his less wealthy than what he inherited? Where is the evidence for this? I think this part is most crucial, that if he was infact more wealthy than what he inherit despite going bankrupt a few times, is the perfect guy for the job.

But if there was truly evidence he is less wealthy now than when he inherited, liberal media will go nuts with it to smear him.


It's something that will have to be disclosed. But he was on Time magazine at 30 and was worth $200-$300 million then and before the hotel/casino fiascoes. Oh, and he didn't inherit as most do. His father Fred gave him control of approx. $50 million in real estate...before he died.


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RE: Michelle Obama for President - 9/16/2015 10:51:57 AM   
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Actually it was some of his companies that went bankrupt, not him. It's not the same thing.


Really???What the fuck is it if it ain't him bankrupting the companies he owned and managed.Do you just open your mouth to change feet?

Every real estate project is a separate LLC. Its debt is cordoned off from all other debt so if one goes bankrupt, then only that property (project) is involved. And yes, the whole idea of bankruptcy is to reduce debt and the creditors take a huge hit.

For example, when just one of his projects went under, it hit Fleet Financial Group who then had to merge with BankBoston. Then in 2004 it merged with Bank of America. The stockholders in both Fleet and B of Boston...took a real hit.

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RE: Michelle Obama for President - 9/16/2015 12:47:56 PM   
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Why not Michelle Obama? She's probably one of the best first lady US has ever seen. I am not a fan of Obama, but I love Michelle Obama as a representation of a modern woman on how one can be good mom, biggest cheerleader and supporter of her husband, just being there for her man, while still maintaining her independence and chasing her own dreams and making changes that she believes is good.

If there is no one better for the next four years. Love to see Michelle Obama or Trump in the white house.

And looking forward to Kenya versus Trump 2020.

You are assuming that Michelle Obama wants to run for Prez.. I really doubt she does.. I think she is smart enough to not even consider it..

Yeah, it would be amusing to see Trump in the white house.. he will be insulting & alienating world leaders left and right, complaining about Merkle and commenting that she is bleeding, saying one world leader is a dummy, another leader is a loser, etc, etc (maybe he can insult the US into a war!).. with his comments about Hispanics, if he becomes Prez it would not surprise me if Mexico ceased relations with the US .. the late night comedians will have a hay day with all the material he would be giving them.. even Hillary would be a better choice than him (& I hate Hillary with a passion!).. With him in the white house, there will be many nasty unexpected consequences (imnsho)..

Time even created a Donald Trump Insult Generator!
http://time.com/3966291/donald-trump-insult-generator/

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RE: Michelle Obama for President - 9/16/2015 1:10:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Go to youtube and search "is michelle obama a man?" And before you write it off as nonsense watch a few vids. The first time I heard about it I thought is was nonsense too but I don't anymore. There's also a few times he has referred to his wife in speeches as michael. How could he possibly make a mistake like that and call his wife a mans name?
I don't think he ever would have heard the end of that. There is the issue of the children looking like them, but if you look at enough of the images they don't have a lot in common
and there are no pictures anywhere showing Michelle pregnant. And what do you know? There are no birth certificates for Michelle or the kids known anywhere. 4 people in the white house without valid birth certificates.....hmmm

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RE: Michelle Obama for President - 9/16/2015 1:40:58 PM   
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and there are no pictures anywhere showing Michelle pregnant. And what do you know? There are no birth certificates for Michelle or the kids known anywhere. 4 people in the white house without valid birth certificates.....hmmm


Do you just open your mouth to change feet. The presidents birth certificate had been around for a long time. The other side has had 18 years to prove he is not an amerikan ...so far they are batting 0. If you had the iq of a small pebble you would be able to find out when and where the whole family was born. Instead you want us to watchsome mornonic vidio and congragulate you for your ignorance. The fact that you cannot find anyone's birth certificate is only proof of your own ignorance and arrogance.


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RE: Michelle Obama for President - 9/16/2015 1:45:18 PM   
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Go to youtube and search "is michelle obama a man?" And before you write it off as nonsense watch a few vids. The first time I heard about it I thought is was nonsense too but I don't anymore. There's also a few times he has referred to his wife in speeches as michael. How could he possibly make a mistake like that and call his wife a mans name?
I don't think he ever would have heard the end of that. There is the issue of the children looking like them, but if you look at enough of the images they don't have a lot in common
and there are no pictures anywhere showing Michelle pregnant. And what do you know? There are no birth certificates for Michelle or the kids known anywhere. 4 people in the white house without valid birth certificates.....hmmm

I just did - and most of it is bullshit and spin.

The so-called "forensic evidence" they portray just doesn't hold up.
I fail the ring and index finger test and the height test - and I'm deffo male.
My OH fails the proportional head & shoulder (and height) spin too.
She's had kids (proven DNA records).

So.... does the 'evidence' they show make me a female and my OH a male??
I don't think so.
And as for names, it often happens, and not just to celebs.

My daughter has none of my features - she inherited those of my mum and her natural mum.
Yet my son is the spitting image of me when I was his age.
Not all offspring carry something of you, so having a child with little to none of your features is actually quite common. Go figure.

As for the comments from good old JR, she's always done that with all sorts of celebs - it's nothing new.

Like any theory, you can make as many 'good' observations you like, that doesn't prove it's true; but it only takes ONE result to the contrary to disprove it. That's a fact.


If you wanna believe this horseshit, be my guest. I don't.

ETA: I don't have any pics of my 1st or 2nd wife when they were pregnant, neither has my ex's 2nd husband.
And if I were a celeb, I wouldn't want any in the public domain either.
FYI: if you Google images of 'pregnant Michelle Obama' there are quite a few - so that disproves one of your statements.
You didn't look very hard.


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RE: Michelle Obama for President - 9/16/2015 2:24:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		FFS, hasn't this birther bullshit been laid to rest yet? If not, take your pick:
Barack Obama's birth certificate is a forgery.
Birthing Pains
Kenyan Mistake
Lawyers representing Barack Obama admitted that his birth certificate is a forgery.
Barack Obama does not qualify as a natural-born citizen of the U.S. because his mother was too young.



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RE: Michelle Obama for President - 9/16/2015 2:29:16 PM   
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Go to youtube and search "is michelle obama a man?"

You're either not taking medication you should, or you're taking the wrong medication. Either is unwise. Please seek the assistance of a licensed physician to alleviate your current condition.

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RE: Michelle Obama for President - 9/16/2015 2:45:16 PM   
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This is the best thread I've seen in P and R for ages. Good work, everyone!

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RE: Michelle Obama for President - 9/16/2015 3:13:15 PM   
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FR

This is the best thread I've seen in P and R for ages. Good work, everyone!


Nearly forty post in and no mention of leftists or islamists Could that be an indicator?

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RE: Michelle Obama for President - 9/16/2015 6:43:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		To me; Trump comes across as an arrogant shit-head. Given, he is a rich arrogant shit-head; he does know how to spend other people's money. A proven track record with that. And with all the bankruptcies; he has experience with running organizations into the red.

I may vote for him if the only other choice is an arrogant profiteer that screws constituents and runs with the money leaving a minor partner to take all the heat. (Yep, I'm thinking the Whitewater land scam) And also a person that either ignores, is clueless about, or thinks they are above regulations on data security that would land a common person into federal prison for violating. (You do NOT send classified material to an electronic address that is not locked down and configures for safe handling of classified material. Even mail clerks in buildings with secure areas are taught that.)

I have mixed feelings on Jeb Bush though. He did a lot of good and bad as Governor of Florida. He might even be the least puke inducing of the candidates I've checked out. I haven't seen anyone running for federal office in a couple of decades that was worth actually voting FOR.

Too bad the politicians are really scared of having NOTA on the ballot. It would be a landslide.

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RE: Michelle Obama for President - 9/16/2015 6:55:48 PM   
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Too bad the politicians are really scared of having NOTA on the ballot. It would be a landslide.


Job security.

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