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People should be elected to office based on their ideas, not their religion or the color of their skin," Sanders said. Bernie said this in response to Carson saying something about no Muslim should be President. This alone makes me not a Bernie fan, he makes no sense. I mean seriously. People CANNOT choose the colour of the skin, BUT people can CHOOSE their religious beliefs. A religious belief is literally an IDEA. So whatever religion people CHOOSE to align themselves with, speaks volumes to me about them and their ideas. Mr. Sander's statement makes perfect sense. If your having trouble with just once sentence of text, dont bother voting in the election: your an idiot! That said.... Most people do not get to choose their religion. Often its pushed onto them by their parents. Most adults will say they had "...A Christian upbringing.". Meaning now as an adult they can choose whether to stick with the religion or go in another direction. Some have been so conditioned they can not think of leaving the religion or the group (i.e. a cult). After all, at any time all the Branch Dravidians in Waco, TX could have left at any time during that siege. Why didn't they? A religious belief is not an idea. Its a concept of depth in understanding of a subject matter. Whether that subject matter is good, correct, or just, is another story. quote:
ORIGINAL: Greta75 Religion and Race are two completely different things. One is not a choice and the other is a choice. Especially in the US. Religion is 101% a choice. So if aligning themselves with a certain religion is a fully conscious choice, it's aligning yourself to religious ideas that you agree with, they should definitely be judged on their religious choices. Obviously you have never encountered any of the hardcore religions within the country. Start with the Amish and work your from there. One one leaves the Amish, that person is considered dead to the whole community. Then check out Scientology. An those two are mild levels of fanaticism when it comes to religion. There are death cults that are even worst! Leaving one is generally a death sentence. An they WILL hunt you down! quote:
ORIGINAL: Greta75 And to me, there is nothing in Islam that supports any idea of freedom of anything. Have you read the holy book for Islam? Since I can open up any of the variants of the Holy Bible and justify killing anyone! For just about any reason! Because I and many others can do that, should we not declare the Holy Bible and all those that follow it suspected of doing evil things onto Americans? Since there are places within the Holy Bible that are at odds with the US Constitution. 'Freedom of Religion' being one that comes to mind almost immediately. The Holy Bible has problems with the 8th amendment as well. Who determines if a punishment is to much? We the People? Or some imaginary sky entity that no one has seen or heard, nor prove the existence of with science? Don't like your religion being trampled and mocked? Maybe you shouldn't do to others. There's a passage in the Holy Bible about it, Luke 6, 31. Should check it out.... quote:
ORIGINAL: Greta75 African Americans were enslaved due to their colour. Islam isn't against Slavery. I don't think African Americans should be supportive towards Islam. Yet, Islam was not the big religion in the United States. That would be Christinaity! Christianity is not against slavery....EITHER. African Americans were not enslaved due to their color, but their tribe. Tribes would often war against each other in Africa. The males were often slaughter while the females and children taken as slaves for the tribe. After a time, those individuals would be made members of the tribe. Along came the White Man. An he had marvelous stuff to trade. Furniture, jewels, clothing. Even firearms. They traded these items for black slaves taken in conquest. So when blacks bitch about the whole slave trade and whites being evil; I point out their own countrymen sold their ancestors into slavery BEFORE they left Africa. quote:
ORIGINAL: Greta75 But what I notice is, non-politicians like Trump and Carson, sure do not know how to say politically correct things, so I am totally loving them! Screw PC! Trump is not a politician? Mr. Trump runs a multi-billion dollar enterprise. Its often stated that a CEO of a large company is often doing the same things a politician does as major or a large city. They are both hired to the job, just under different circumstances. Mr. Trump is every bit a politician, and sucks at the governing side to which he is trying to obtain a position (have you not seen all his failed marriages and bankruptcies to date?). Mr. Carson is a politician. Frankly, he's psychotic and should be in a hospital for the rest of his life. As the patient! Hillary can take either one down without much effort in the general election. People may not like here for any number of reasons; but they'll vote for her over an arrogant asshole of the 1% and the totally insane tea party.
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