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ORIGINAL: DaNewAgeViking

The problem is they're doing a 'Republican' on this because guns. There are better ways to tackle the issue, but it seems the Tea Party are't the only obsessives around.

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"Programs like Project ChildSafe work because proper storage of firearms when not in use is the number one way to help prevent firearm accidents, misuse and theft,"

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

We should really be teaching our kids abstinence regarding gun safety. It's worked so well with sex ed.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

What is the problem?

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

Better ways? Um... Well...

We could actually fix the background check system we already have so that nutjobs don't get one on a technicality. Then maybe try enforcing the laws already on the books. It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to require security at gun shows, with all firearms completely locked up after hours.

We had a local gun show at the fairgrounds broken into at night by a group of guys. Quite a few handguns were stolen. Like, kinda a lot. I'll dig up the story if I can.

Link here ok, only 20. I thought it was more.

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

Better ways? Um... Well...

We could actually fix the background check system we already have so that nutjobs don't get one on a technicality. Then maybe try enforcing the laws already on the books. It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to require security at gun shows, with all firearms completely locked up after hours.

We had a local gun show at the fairgrounds broken into at night by a group of guys. Quite a few handguns were stolen. Like, kinda a lot. I'll dig up the story if I can.

Link here ok, only 20. I thought it was more.

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

Better ways? Um... Well...

We could actually fix the background check system we already have so that nutjobs don't get one on a technicality. Then maybe try enforcing the laws already on the books. It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to require security at gun shows, with all firearms completely locked up after hours.

We had a local gun show at the fairgrounds broken into at night by a group of guys. Quite a few handguns were stolen. Like, kinda a lot. I'll dig up the story if I can.

Link here ok, only 20. I thought it was more.

except for that material is more or less inconsequential to the point of the story, which is not about "overall gun safety"---but rather "particular gun safety education" towards keeping people, kids essentially, safer in homes where there are guns---and a group trying to prevent that from occurring.

otherwise, danewageviking is introducing, and perhaps you by extension if I am reading you rightly, some other "issue."

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ORIGINAL: joether

Last I checked, those under 18 years of age could not legal purchase a firearm. So technically, they shouldn't have one, right? Therefore teaching them how to handle a firearm should not be a need. However, parents will give alcoholic drinks to their older teenagers. Usually for a laugh or amusement. Sometimes not even thinking on the effects. And as it is well known, that teenagers abuse alcoholic drinks. That adults allow teenagers whom normally are not known for their ability to 'think through the situation' a beverage that further reduces their judgement abilities. Youtube is chalk full of many examples if your curious...

An there are plenty of videos of teenagers doing stupid shit with firearms. Youtube is chalk full of many examples of this, if your curious....

Now, with access to firearms AND alcoholic drinks, we can watch on Youtube the effects.

Seriously, how effective is this campaign, given normal observations of how teenagers behave? Like sex education, some will listen. Some will consider it but forget 'in the moment'. And the remainder will totally disregard it. The question does become, how effective is this particular campaign and message in changing childrens (and teenagers) towards handling firearms safety?

But that's not the real issue, is it Kirata? You support the political viewpoint of NSSF, to which the 'Stop Gun Violence' group opposes:

The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF)...

A ) Opposes all legislation that would require parents to safely store firearms in the home in the manner described in their Project ChildSafe Safety Kit brochure.

B ) Opposes Child Access Prevention laws to hold adults criminally responsible when children gain unauthorized access to their firearms.

C ) Supports unprecedented legal immunity for the gun industry, which prevents parents (and others) from bringing lawsuits against the industry when they market and/or distribute their products in a negligent manner.

D ) Supports lowering the age at which Americans can purchase firearms and carry them in public.

This is your problem. Your against common sense ideas that would effectively lower firearm accidents by a far greater degree than a simple gun lock that can be easily bypassed.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

There is no such thing as gun safety for children it is a waste of money... Spend it on required gun safety classes for adults so they do not kill their children through ignorance and carelessness

Butch

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

There is no such thing as gun safety for children it is a waste of money... Spend it on required gun safety classes for adults so they do not kill their children through ignorance and carelessness

Butch

Why not teach gun safety to kids so they don't, among other things, mistake a real gun for a toy. Teach them as kids and they will not need to be trained as adults.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

There is no such thing as gun safety for children it is a waste of money... Spend it on required gun safety classes for adults so they do not kill their children through ignorance and carelessness

Butch

Why not teach gun safety to kids so they don't, among other things, mistake a real gun for a toy. Teach them as kids and they will not need to be trained as adults.

So you would advocate teaching kids how to drive so they know how to safely control a car when they come of age.... or even a truck (semi to you)??

No. Keep guns away from kids until they are of legal age to have and use one properly and safely.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
That way when they are of legal age to own one without adult supervision they don't know how to be safe with one. I never said that kids should be given guns to mess with when they are not adults, but the shortest route to an accident it to keep kids ignorant of guns and to make them something mysterious and forbbiden. And yes I was making my son aware of safe driving habits long before he could drive.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
That way when they are of legal age to own one without adult supervision they don't know how to be safe with one. I never said that kids should be given guns to mess with when they are not adults, but the shortest route to an accident it to keep kids ignorant of guns and to make them something mysterious and forbbiden. And yes I was making my son aware of safe driving habits long before he could drive.

But of course, you never let him behind the wheel of your car did you. Or did you??

Kids are well aware of their surroundings.
And just like we teach our kids road safety (aka, keep away from cars, roads and traffic), we should do the same with guns. Teach them to stay well away from them and places where they are used until they are legally old enough to legally own one.
To actively teach them anything else about something that easily kills is irresponsible and reckless parenting.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Like making your own morning star in violation of the law and keeping it where they can easily get to it?

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Funny how most gun accidents with kids happens with people who don't teach their guns safety rather than the ones who do.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
You also do not know that you don't have to be old enough to own a gun to be allowed to hunt, don't you think they should bee taught how to handle a gun safely long before they go hunting so that safety is second nature to them?
I have taught a number of young people gun safety , no accidents, had an aunt who you would think was a responsible parent. Her daughter nearly shot my mother because she got ahold of my fathers service revolver and thought it was a toy. My brothers, my sister, and I would have never made a mistake like that. My son knew better when he was 2.
Again, unlike you, I only do things with weapons that are legal, and you have already admitted to committing a felony, so don't get so holier than thou with me.