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RE: USPS - 9/30/2015 8:31:52 AM   
hot4bondage


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No one seems to send letters anymore, but don't most of us order things online? Sites like Amazon and eBay should be a bonanza for the shipping industry. Just going by what I see at the post office and the porches in my neighborhood, they seem to be moving a lot more packages than they did about 15 years ago. Where's that money?

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RE: USPS - 10/1/2015 3:40:14 PM   
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Too many freebies for congress helps drive the post office deficit... franking.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-07-05/congress-keeps-free-mail-while-pushing-u-s-postal-cuts

Cut rate postage for charities...

http://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/703.htm

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RE: USPS - 10/1/2015 6:18:24 PM   
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ive mentioned unions a few times:

"USPS Union Shows Why People Hate Unions"

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Staples (SPLS) has been really struggling as of late, as have all office supply stores. The superstore concept is starting to fail in the face of competition from stores like Dollar Tree (DLTR), Walmart (WMT) and Amazon (AMZN), not to mention Uline.

SPLS management had a great idea, though — set up U.S. Postal Service outlets inside Staples stores.

Wouldn’t it be great if you could not only buy shipping materials and supplies at Staples, but actually ship them from inside the store? It would be a time-saver for people who didn’t then have to slog to the nearest post office, and wait in line for the USPS’ oh-so-exceptional service.

The consumer gets convenience. SPLS gets much-needed incremental revenue.

Naturally, the American Postal Workers Union could not permit this...

A Win for … Nobody

Everyone loses, including the USPS. The consumer indeed must slog to the local USPS and endure its oh-so-exceptional service. SPLS stock loses a potentially decent source of revenue.

And the USPS … well, it “protects union jobs,” right?

Wrong.

Because now, SPLS could look to augment its partnership with UPS (UPS). Furthermore, consumers who are already annoyed with the USPS will continue to find alternatives … like UPS.

The post office is losing money every year. Actually, forget just years — the Postal Service just lost $2 billion in a mere three quarters. Leave it to the public sector union to try to protect the most inefficient service this side of Amtrak by forcing people to use the government’s monopoly...

Bottom Line

This is the problem with public sector unions. They negotiate with the very people they lobby to get put into power, so the negotiation is not at arm’s length. When it comes to situations like this, the union will always put itself over its customers — you and I.


http://investorplace.com/investorpolitics/usps-spls-stock/

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RE: USPS - 10/1/2015 6:58:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

ive mentioned unions a few times:

"USPS Union Shows Why People Hate Unions"

quote:

Staples (SPLS) has been really struggling as of late, as have all office supply stores. The superstore concept is starting to fail in the face of competition from stores like Dollar Tree (DLTR), Walmart (WMT) and Amazon (AMZN), not to mention Uline.

SPLS management had a great idea, though — set up U.S. Postal Service outlets inside Staples stores.

Wouldn’t it be great if you could not only buy shipping materials and supplies at Staples, but actually ship them from inside the store? It would be a time-saver for people who didn’t then have to slog to the nearest post office, and wait in line for the USPS’ oh-so-exceptional service.

The consumer gets convenience. SPLS gets much-needed incremental revenue.

Naturally, the American Postal Workers Union could not permit this...

A Win for … Nobody

Everyone loses, including the USPS. The consumer indeed must slog to the local USPS and endure its oh-so-exceptional service. SPLS stock loses a potentially decent source of revenue.

And the USPS … well, it “protects union jobs,” right?

Wrong.

Because now, SPLS could look to augment its partnership with UPS (UPS). Furthermore, consumers who are already annoyed with the USPS will continue to find alternatives … like UPS.

The post office is losing money every year. Actually, forget just years — the Postal Service just lost $2 billion in a mere three quarters. Leave it to the public sector union to try to protect the most inefficient service this side of Amtrak by forcing people to use the government’s monopoly...

Bottom Line

This is the problem with public sector unions. They negotiate with the very people they lobby to get put into power, so the negotiation is not at arm’s length. When it comes to situations like this, the union will always put itself over its customers — you and I.


http://investorplace.com/investorpolitics/usps-spls-stock/

First of all, by typical accounting measures, the USPS is in the black. The only reason they have to show an actual loss is all of the pre-funding touched on here already, that no other businesses especially publicly traded businesses are required to show.

The whole premise for moving the USPS to any store-front chain, is the lowering of wages. So as usual, the only people who benefit, is the investor class. It is testimony to the American culture of money and profits that the whole idea even comes to mind.

It doesn't help the workers and whether or not it helps the customer is a crap shoot.

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RE: USPS - 10/2/2015 4:31:06 AM   
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right, "unfunded liabilities" are a part of sound practice procedures...

and as I keep pointing out, those liabilities are due to union presence.

other "businesses" or "publicly traded businesses" don't have the same problem with their unions. my guess is the usps is totally unique in that regard.

"convenience" helps the customer so no its not a crap shoot and its the job of any business to see to the desires of the customer.

and the other people who benefit would be the new employees in the chains.

I rather consider it a testimony to the innovative nature of capitalism, and to the harmful influence of unions.

its ironic your premise is that the self-interests of the consumer, and more so of the "investor class" are bad---while the unions preserving their self interest is a desirable thing.

if people, as groups of workers are being systematically and horribly abused, then unions have some place. however, for the most part, that's not the case and given the choice between supporting union practices that drive up costs and lower service, im on the side of the free market. at the same time, public sector unions are absolutely parasitical.


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