joether
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It is sad when conservatives really can not come to terms with their own political party and philosophy. I understand that DENIAL is the first of five steps; but please guys, your in year seven of this denial of reality. The Republican party is in total shambles. Your best candidate for the Oval Office is a guy that can not answer a reasonable question with at least a semi-intelligent answer. You say you want good government, then do EVERYTHING to undermine that effort. So here you are attacking me, rather than looking at your own politics like rational adults. You can not make even a half decent argument justifying the words and actions of your own party and STILL think you have any credibility at the end of it.
You demand the President to be honest and open on things, right? I'm in favor of that to. He's not been able to be honest because there are parts of this nation that simply can not handle the truth like a FUCKING ADULT! When he's been honest, you have all attacked him, left, right, and center! You keep attacking the guy; why should he be honest and open? To a bunch of people that think he's the enemy rather than a fellow US Citizen?
I'm not just saying your party is full of shit. I'm giving the evidence that it is full of shit too! The evidence is more damning than my words. Not one of you have refuted the evidence. What are you doing about keeping your own political party honest? Letting them run government into the ground because none of you are mature enough to handle things like adults?
Your party is morally, ethically, scientifically, emotional, mentally, and most likely physically, bankrupt! Your party would make a deal with the Devil for more power. And then try to screw that entity with a loophole or fine text 'understandings'. Your party tried that in 1996; and this nation got George W. Bush & Company. Did you NOT learn from the mistakes the first time around to be dumb enough to do it a second time?
Does the nation have to pay for your ego bills? A 'currency' no institution in America excepts outside of 'Loony Ville, USA'?
All we get from you guys is BULLSHIT. And its stacked up, like LEGO blocks! It just doesn't fit together like LEGO blocks. When it falls over because none of you spent a dime being an engineer; you blame everyone else for your party's failures.
You dont like it when the Democrats do it. I can understand that. By...WHY THE FUCK DO YOU ALLOW YOUR OWN PARTY TO DO THE SAME SHIT?!?!?!?!
Youve yet to refute anything served up to you that refutes your claims. Claims that have absolutely NOTHING to do with the story from your source which was actually a pretty straightforward story about a Congressional hearing...about statements made by both sides...with NOTHING in the story itself offering any shoring up of either side. So what exact proof of the 'rightness' of Planned Parenthood did your source offer? Other than statements made by someone from Planned Parenthood?
Actually I did. A few months ago when this story broke out onto national media. I placed the first video and the three hour video links in the OP. At that time, not one of had a half decent counter argument. As observed, you all (dare I say....conspiracy) tried to move the topic away from the OP onto something else ASAP. Now months later, we have a Republican-led panel attacking Planned Parenthood, using the same discredited movies as justification to attack the organization.
I asked then as I do now: Why are conservatives 'OK' when their political party lies openly, but not 'OK' when the Democrats are telling the truth? Shouldn't we encourage honesty in Congress? If that is true, then why isn't this organization, 'Center for Medical Progress' being investigated? Its leader(s) dragged before the same panel and asked to testify? Explain their actions of smearing a well known organization with false accusations?
You can not even give me a single argument that sounds rational! That's your problem!
My evidence is a three hour video. That if watched, shows the PPH executives explaining to the actors the process and ethics involved at every stage of the process. That PPH was investigated. Those doing the investigating did not see any evidence to show PPH or its members were involved in a conspiracy or breakage of the law.
In the video of the House panel, there is a Republican from Utah heard accusing PPH of using federal funds to support political groups. The executive from PPH could not get a word in edge wise to explain the process. Because the Republican knew, as did everyone else whom is informed (i.e. not you), that the federal dollars are not used for abortions. In fact, the money PPH gets from the US Government is kept quite separating from abortions and political activities. In other words, PPH is following the laws of the land.
The thread I'm mention is still on the forum. The (nearly) Three Hour Video Is Found Here!
Your evidence does absolutely nothing to prove your topic HERE or to address the points made above.
Talk about not being able to argue your point...no wonder you resort to a wall of jumpsuit.
BULL...and....SHIT.
Your party LIES often enough that its taken as truth by conservative media. You can not refute not even one of my arguments. That tells me that you do not have anything in the way of a counter argument. Your 'current' argument is a weak and feeble attempt to discredit me. That's right, attack the messager not the message.
I posted a nearly three hour video, of which a conservative organization, Center for Medical Progress used to create a series of videos. All of these videos are heavily editted propaganda videos meant to show Planned Parenthood not only violates laws but does so 'for profit'. The truthful video shows quite the opposite. Yet, conservative media and the GOP/TP have been attacking Planned Parenthood over the hacked videos. The lie is bold face and in the open, yet, your political party seeks to attack an organization using lies, because facts and truth are not on their side.
If Democrats were to do this, I would be quite annoyed. Enough to bitch about it. Yet, you and others are seemingly 'OK' that Republicans are lying to score points with their base. When government is lying, isn't it up to the people to improve matters?
So if its not 'OK' for Democrats to behave as tyrants, is it 'OK' for Republicans and the Tea Party?
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