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RE: Can o/l stuff work? - 5/28/2007 5:55:20 PM   
SimplyMichael


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I run an online wine tasting event, I give a break to people from Chatrooms, it is only $99 instead of my normal $500 fee.  Email me and I will send you my paypal account....

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RE: Can o/l stuff work? - 5/28/2007 7:02:55 PM   
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Eventually you're going to want something real.  A real touch, a real tie, a face you can see in front of you.  Online isn't a bad way to start, but do you really want to keep it going when you could be searching for something in the three-dimensional world?

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RE: Can o/l stuff work? - 5/29/2007 6:51:03 PM   
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Depends on the honesty and hernestness of both. The major pitfall to a on-line relationship is the possability of not doing what one is told, or lieing to another about their real situation

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RE: Can o/l stuff work? - 5/29/2007 8:06:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

I run an online wine tasting event, I give a break to people from Chatrooms, it is only $99 instead of my normal $500 fee.  Email me and I will send you my paypal account....

thank goodness i don't drink (or smoke or drugs)


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RE: Can o/l stuff work? - 5/29/2007 11:18:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

I run an online wine tasting event, I give a break to people from Chatrooms, it is only $99 instead of my normal $500 fee.  Email me and I will send you my paypal account....



Michael, that was brilliant! 
 
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RE: Can o/l stuff work? - 5/30/2007 9:35:14 AM   
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it wasn't not that brilliant but a poor attempt though


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RE: Can o/l stuff work? - 5/30/2007 9:45:06 AM   
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I haven't seen anyone mention an online and a r/l experience at the same time. I love very explicit and intense painful scenes... but I can't even come close to handling the sensations in real life. Doing them online fulfills my mental state without sending me screaming into the streets. It works really well... no drawbacks that I've come across so far.

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RE: Can o/l stuff work? - 5/30/2007 11:15:21 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

I run an online wine tasting event, I give a break to people from Chatrooms, it is only $99 instead of my normal $500 fee.  Email me and I will send you my paypal account....


Well please tell me what kinda of wine i should purchase and then we can compare comments

I think in order for online to work, you have to have a certain type of mind. We all have different needs in relationships and if most of your needs are emotional and mental and have not as much need for the physical aspects then i believe it will work. Is it like real time? I do not know as I have not had that opportunity but when I do get to meet him irl I will let you know.

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RE: Can o/l stuff work? - 5/30/2007 12:34:48 PM   
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You might as well say that no relationships work because everybody has a failed one. Ever had a date that just was dreadful? Did you declare that you would never date anybody again? Same thing.

If o/l didn't work at all, then people wouldn't do them.

Not all relationships are meant to be forever. Not all are meant to be deep overwhelming marriages of the physical and spiritual. Some are just fun, some are sincere but short term and there are all different kinds beyond that.

If you have an o/l and after the first email you block him, then that o/l didn't work. If it lasts six months and then he finds somebody else, that doesn't mean that you didn't enjoy the six months while it was happening, that you didn't talk about a lot of things, that your emotions weren't involved.

In many ways o/l relationships are like relationships from a couple of centuries back in which you couldn't easily meet. Most of the relationship was done through letters and sharing of experiences and values. Did all of those letter writing couple end up happily married? No. Some just corresponded until they drifted apart, just like couples in real life.

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RE: Can o/l stuff work? - 5/31/2007 8:17:34 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

i would love to have Daddy 24/7 in a r/t relationship however certain circumstances keeps us apart and therefore we have an online D/s dynamic. just because we don't touch and feel each other like many of you do on a daily basis in your own relationship doesn't mean our relationship isn't real and/or is based on cybersex and mastrubation. you are so sorely wrong and incorrect ...and you'll never completely understand the connection Daddy and i feel.

yes, online relationships can work only if you and yours work at to make it work for you.  those in real time relationships should stop thumbing your noses down on us who opted for online because you really don't know the circumstances and reasons why those of us cannot have r/t like you.



Lets look at an analogy here for a bit. Say you are sitting in some bar that caters to military types. You have a table full of patrons in different uniforms. Marines, Army, Navy, Air Force, National Guard, Coast Guard, and even representatives of an African Mercenary company and the Minnesota Minuteman Militia.

Certainly some of the major military branches are going to think that their force is superior. There will be the career military types that refer to the National Guardsmen as weekend warriors. The Coast Guard will catch some flak from the Navy ( Despite their seeing far more action in recent years than the Navy has ). Some of the troops will not think the mercs to be very respectable sorts, and just about everyone is going to get a chuckle at the redneck from the militia thinking that he is military grade. But here is the kicker, with the possible exception of the militiaman, every last one of these hypothetical military types are real. Their various branches serve real, practical, useful purposes. The career soldiers are in for the long haul. The Guardsmen pull the weight in current engagements abroad. The Wet Guard helps to curb drug trafficking. Even the mercenary soldier has a spot to fill in countries in need of professional military.

Now in walks some gangly long haired kid dressed in tee shirt and jeans, barely drinking age. He plops down at the table, orders a brew, eyes the others, and asks

    " How much combat experience do you folks have? "

A few of the drinkers supply numbers, at which the kid snorts and laughs.

    " I have over 50,000 hours of combat time! " He proudly exclaims.

Not believing him, someone asks about his tour of duty, to which he replies

    " Let me see... I have 3,800 hours of Rainbow Six 14,200 hours of Ghost Recon, 300 hours of Splinter Cell... "

At which point the table erupts in laughter because not a single one of them is going to consider this twerp to be in any shape, form, or fashion " Real ". Even the militia member actually walks outside and fires a weapon in some semblance of a formation. This kid sits in the comfort of his home, playing and X-Box or Playstation simulation of warfare. How can he possibly think that his experience is real?

Take this into the BDSM arena. We have masters, slaves, dominants, submissives, the ever present mercenary switches ( kidding, kidding! ), tops, and bottoms. There will definitely be some from each group that thinks that their way is superior. This is human nature. But each one is filling a very real, needed role. They are interacting in a tangible, physical, real manner with their partner. What they are not doing is interacting in a virtual simulation.

In summation: Marine...real. X-Box game inspired by Tom Clancy...not real. Submissive...real. Online virtual top...not real. This is not an opinion of superiority. It is reality versus simulation. It is not possible to engage in intercourse online. It is not possible to clean a house online. You might to be able to serve in some extremely limited way by doing someones taxes, balancing their budget, or shopping for someone online, but that is as close to real as you can get. I am not nose thumbing. I know that there are times and circumstances in which a person cannot be involved in a real relationship. But to claim that online is in any effect the same as real time is like saying that you can't afford a meal, look at a photograph of a plate of food, then insisting that since you saw the picture you have had a meal.

My pet quoted Michael because his analogy was dead on the money. Sorry if it offended you, but sometimes the truth hurts.

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RE: Can o/l stuff work? - 5/31/2007 12:46:04 PM   
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We met online and had an o/l relationship for 3 months before we met in r/l.  We lived 1,000 miles apart, so in between those r/l visits, online and phone was all we had.  The LDR we had for two years before being together 24/7 was not easy to say the least, but the o/l aspect of it in between those visits was what sustained us.

I believe that the internet has been a salvation for those curious about BDSM as a way of teaching and exploring those feelings that someone may not otherwise be able to or feel bold enough to explore on an intimate level first.  I've met many wonderful people online that for many personal reasons were not ready or able to seek out a r/l partner just yet.  Being online allowed them to explore those fantasies before feeling confident enough to go out into the real world. 

If some only want the fantasy....who am I to judge?

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RE: Can o/l stuff work? - 5/31/2007 12:51:34 PM   
sambamanslilgirl


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long winded speech about militay nothing - no it didn't offend me.

i still stand on my claim - i have a successful online relationship with Daddy and yes, we are forever since i'm deeply devoted and committed. online relationships it appears doesn't work for most - well that's you and them. i have 2 - count them 1 and 2 reasons why a realtime relationship with Daddy isn't possible.  you see, it's arrogant realtimers like you and others who preach this crap as to say it's the ONLY TWUE way in BDSM. there is NO TWUE way in BDSM yet it's people like you, Michael etc who feel there is.  i have respect for those who are in realtime relationships HOWEVER i don't appreciate the snide criticisms from others like you make. it's not easy uprooting 2 UMs from schools in the middle of year, plus finding medical specialists for both, jobs, place to live, settling visitation rights, etc etc.  at the moment - realtime isn't in the cards for me.

and if that doesn't make me a twue submissive - so be it! 

and if my relationships with my Doms aren't twue by your standards - so be it!

need to get off your high horses for once and really understand why some of us can't have realtime relationships.


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RE: Can o/l stuff work? - 5/31/2007 5:04:22 PM   
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Oh boy, not TWUE..... An onlineism of the first order.

Obviously it offends you to discover that online is not reality. This isn't my problem. It also isn't my problem when a child cries after discovering that Santa isn't real. You conveniently ignored that I said it was understandable that some people could not be real time, and automatically jump to the conclusion that I am being snide and arrogant for pointing out reality. So lets try this again.

Bob wants to be a surgeon. Bob has a nervous twitch which excludes him from being a surgeon. No matter how much Bob whines, no matter how much Bob complains that surgeons don't understand, no matter how often Bob accuses surgeons of being arrogant, NOTHING will make Bob a surgeon.

It is NOT arrogance to point out that an online virtual relationship is NOT reality. It is the simple power of observation. I am sorry that reality does not bend to your whim, but this is the way that the universe works. And when onliners start talking about their multiple online others, or worse, when an onliner starts cackling about being the " Mauve silk, level 17, grade Q meta slave to master Soandso, switch to sub X, and quasi-dominasub grade D to a pink vellum, grade A neometa slave " you are damned right that some of us point a finger, yell " Role player ", and start laughing. I don't deny it, I don't apologize for it, and no temper tantrum or wishful thinking on your part will EVER make a virtual, online relationship real, or as you put it in onlinese, TWUE.

Online is great for meeting people, keeping up with friends, and communicating with people that you cannot yet become real time with. But making up excuses to not be real time is just another way to avoid a real relationship and remain committed to fantasy. Plenty of people overcome the barriers of uprooting younguns, distance, and their fears of commitment to make real time work.

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RE: Can o/l stuff work? - 5/31/2007 9:28:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

I run an online wine tasting event, I give a break to people from Chatrooms, it is only $99 instead of my normal $500 fee.  Email me and I will send you my paypal account....


My sides hurt from laffin. That was genius!
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RE: Can o/l stuff work? - 5/31/2007 9:29:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: aSlavesLife

quote:

ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

i would love to have Daddy 24/7 in a r/t relationship however certain circumstances keeps us apart and therefore we have an online D/s dynamic. just because we don't touch and feel each other like many of you do on a daily basis in your own relationship doesn't mean our relationship isn't real and/or is based on cybersex and mastrubation. you are so sorely wrong and incorrect ...and you'll never completely understand the connection Daddy and i feel.

yes, online relationships can work only if you and yours work at to make it work for you.  those in real time relationships should stop thumbing your noses down on us who opted for online because you really don't know the circumstances and reasons why those of us cannot have r/t like you.



Lets look at an analogy here for a bit. Say you are sitting in some bar that caters to military types. You have a table full of patrons in different uniforms. Marines, Army, Navy, Air Force, National Guard, Coast Guard, and even representatives of an African Mercenary company and the Minnesota Minuteman Militia.

Certainly some of the major military branches are going to think that their force is superior. There will be the career military types that refer to the National Guardsmen as weekend warriors. The Coast Guard will catch some flak from the Navy ( Despite their seeing far more action in recent years than the Navy has ). Some of the troops will not think the mercs to be very respectable sorts, and just about everyone is going to get a chuckle at the redneck from the militia thinking that he is military grade. But here is the kicker, with the possible exception of the militiaman, every last one of these hypothetical military types are real. Their various branches serve real, practical, useful purposes. The career soldiers are in for the long haul. The Guardsmen pull the weight in current engagements abroad. The Wet Guard helps to curb drug trafficking. Even the mercenary soldier has a spot to fill in countries in need of professional military.

Now in walks some gangly long haired kid dressed in tee shirt and jeans, barely drinking age. He plops down at the table, orders a brew, eyes the others, and asks

   " How much combat experience do you folks have? "

A few of the drinkers supply numbers, at which the kid snorts and laughs.

   " I have over 50,000 hours of combat time! " He proudly exclaims.

Not believing him, someone asks about his tour of duty, to which he replies

   " Let me see... I have 3,800 hours of Rainbow Six 14,200 hours of Ghost Recon, 300 hours of Splinter Cell... "

At which point the table erupts in laughter because not a single one of them is going to consider this twerp to be in any shape, form, or fashion " Real ". Even the militia member actually walks outside and fires a weapon in some semblance of a formation. This kid sits in the comfort of his home, playing and X-Box or Playstation simulation of warfare. How can he possibly think that his experience is real?

Take this into the BDSM arena. We have masters, slaves, dominants, submissives, the ever present mercenary switches ( kidding, kidding! ), tops, and bottoms. There will definitely be some from each group that thinks that their way is superior. This is human nature. But each one is filling a very real, needed role. They are interacting in a tangible, physical, real manner with their partner. What they are not doing is interacting in a virtual simulation.

In summation: Marine...real. X-Box game inspired by Tom Clancy...not real. Submissive...real. Online virtual top...not real. This is not an opinion of superiority. It is reality versus simulation. It is not possible to engage in intercourse online. It is not possible to clean a house online. You might to be able to serve in some extremely limited way by doing someones taxes, balancing their budget, or shopping for someone online, but that is as close to real as you can get. I am not nose thumbing. I know that there are times and circumstances in which a person cannot be involved in a real relationship. But to claim that online is in any effect the same as real time is like saying that you can't afford a meal, look at a photograph of a plate of food, then insisting that since you saw the picture you have had a meal.

My pet quoted Michael because his analogy was dead on the money. Sorry if it offended you, but sometimes the truth hurts.

Owner of slave L

Way to go M...

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