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RE: Shock collars - 10/15/2015 10:07:35 PM   
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The only real info I could add is an issue with some activation methods.
I had a shock collar on my dog at one stage, it worked in conjunction with a wire that you'd place around the area you wanted the dog contained within. The idea being that coming too close to the wire would activate the shock.

With this functionality also comes the potential for the collar to activate around other devices that produce similar electric fields. Like a washing machine for example. This may not happen with all brands of collar but it certainly did with the one I had -my dog's kennel was outside the laundry- it didn't take me long to realise putting on a load of washing cause my dog to yelp and emerge from his kennel looking very sorry for himself. As soon as I realised this the collar never touched the dog again. But having said that... I have nothing against the use of a shock collar in a BDSM context. I would only use a remote signal activated one though and steer clear of collars with that 'invisible fence' feature that I mention above.

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How do you and your partner plan on using the collar? Can you expand a bit on the thinking behind deciding to go this route.
Whatever the case, I'd be interested in reading about your experience after using the collar for a while and hope you post some updates. Do you have a blog or anything?

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RE: Shock collars - 10/16/2015 12:43:24 AM   
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Dogo Argentinos, for example, were banned in the UK because there were none registered in the UK at the time they wanted to ban "Pit Bulls." Same for Tosas.

No joy. No death and mayhem, either.



Law very arbitrary and based on the appearance of the dog and no other factor, and that includes any breeds new to the UK. Existing dogs in the unlawful category can't breed and must be licensed and muzzled at all times in public.

Not exactly high quality legislation. England and Wales like to give unelected officers and courts lots of leeway to define precedent by creating vague laws.

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RE: Shock collars - 10/16/2015 3:49:48 AM   
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Yes. To curtail freedoms in case something MAY happen at some point, for no reason other than how a breed looks.

*sighs*

That said, I'm glad I learned about that legislation. Thanks to the book I was reading pointing that out some 20 years ago, I learned about Dogo Argentinos, researched them, planned to get one, and owned (showed and competed with) and amazing boy for 9 1/2 years.

He bit ONE person. When he was 9. The man needed 52 stitches in his head.

The man had also refused to go away when I asked him, was 6'3" and 240 pounds, had a record of both sexual and violent assault on women, was on my property (again, after being told to leave), had been drinking, and was scaring me badly.

Oh, and my dog attacked, took him to the ground (no, he was never trained in violence), and he stopped IMMEDIATELY when I said, "Out!"

I'm convinced that he saved me a lot of trouble and pain.

But, I digress. *smiles*

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RE: Shock collars - 10/16/2015 3:59:56 AM   
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Thankfully no dog has ever had to perform that service for me. They've all been big softies, but there's never been cause to test it, I suspect because my own size normally acts as enough of a deterrent.

Not sure why anyone would behave in a threatening manner to an owner of large dogs . . .

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RE: Shock collars - 10/16/2015 7:26:02 AM   
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Yeah. None of mine before, either. And he was a HUGE baby, usually.

The guy approached friendly-like, and Kaizen went to greet him. The guy asked "Is he friendly?" I said, "If you are." He petted K a bit, and K went back to lay down about 100 feet away, to sun himself in front of the garage.

It wasn't until about 7-10 minutes later that the guy was freaking me out and wouldn't leave that K reappeared suddenly. I didn't even know where he came from for a moment.

It never occurred to me that he would actually do that. He was always so sweet and I figured his size was enough of a deterrent for "bad stuff." Shocked the hell out of me. And made me proud of our bond.

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RE: Shock collars - 10/16/2015 11:05:02 AM   
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How do you and your partner plan on using the collar? Can you expand a bit on the thinking behind deciding to go this route.



My husband works from home, and I'm a housewife, so we're together in the house most of the day while he's working.
His office is off from the main part of the house, and so it's kinda hard for him to summon me when he needs something from me without shouting. Recently we both got Apple Watches, which have worked really well, because he can just give me a tap on the wrist to call me over.
Considering how well that's gone, we'd like something a little more kinky to achieve the same effect.

So the primary reason of the collar will be to be worn is to have an easy kinky way to say "come here", primarily with the use of the tone and vibration.

The second reason we'll be using it is as a powerful fear deterrent which will (hopefully) enable me to push myself further than I'm currently able to.
We both love the idea of overnight bondage of the type that's fairly comfortable to start, but ends up becoming increasingly painful or uncomfortable over time. However, the issue we keep consistently hitting is that, somewhere around 3-4am, it's not so sexy and hot anymore, I'm just uncomfortable and want to go to sleep, and so I wake him up and complain. At that point he's too groggy to want to do anything other than go back to sleep, and so the easily thing to do is to let me out, which leaves us both incredibly disappointed in the morning. The shock collar is supposed to be an easy way for him to have an on the spot correction that doesn't require too much effort or thought, where he can just order me to shut up "or else". Ideally the "or else" will be strong enough to begin with that I won't even get to the point of waking him up in the first place... but we'll have to see about that.

Thirdly we'd like to get into torture type scenes where unrealistic expectations are set "here's very restrictive bondage and a toothbrush, I want this floor spotless in half an hour" and the shock collar can be used for punishment/encouragement if orders aren't carried out well enough, or quickly enough.

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Whatever the case, I'd be interested in reading about your experience after using the collar for a while and hope you post some updates. Do you have a blog or anything?


We've got a collar that has got a 7 steps of increasing intensity, and a dual setting where you can turn it on "low" or "medium". So on "low" it would basically go from 1-7, and on "medium" from 4-11 in intensity.
Currently the collar is left permanently on low, and we've experimented with it both on our leg, through the entire 1-7 sequence. I'm more sensitive to it than he is (lower intensities hurt more quickly for me than for him).

So for me, 1 is a slight tingle, 2 the first setting I perceive as a "shock", and 3 and above is where it starts to get uncomfortable/painful, with 7 being about as bad as a really bad long cattle prod shock.
For him, he doesn't feel 1 at all, and then has the same transition from slight tingle, to shock, to cattle prod intensity.

On the neck, we both perceive the 1 setting as a healthy painful shock, and 3 is getting into the "intolerable" range. Because of this, we're currently not going higher than 3 on the neck, either in play or for experimentation, though this may still change over time.

As far as play goes: haven't gotten around to it yet... been stuck with kids in the house, and this type of electrical play triggers LOUD reactions. We'll hopefully get around to it once they're back at with their mother.

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