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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 2:38:58 PM

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Stef is right. This person is just another troll. And ResidentSadist is right: the very best way to deal with douchebag trolls is to ignore them. Their threads just trash the quality of the forums. I'm going to start that approach now.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 2:39:16 PM

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Considering that the dude is seeking, I find it highly unlikely.

Here's something for you to think about. If it's really gotten to the point where a male who is obviously physically stronger by the s-type many times over, can't figure out how to get the person to submit without using his physical strength? It's time to let that person go.

Or it's time to accept that you're not really Dominant.

There's a difference between being dominant and being domineering. Bullying and abusiveness go under the heading of being domineering which is tied to feeling insecure.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 2:59:41 PM

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opening a coke.....because i can!

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 3:03:27 PM

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As a submissive, if somebody would put a can of soda in front of me and a bottle of water and force me to choose by threat of a closed fist. I'd happily drink the soda to provoke him to beat me.
And if I deemed he didn't do it hard enough, I'd drink it again, until I was satisfied there would be enough evidence available.

Then... I'd pick up the phone, call the cops, and press charges against the asshole, and do everything I can to ensure he'd get the max allowable sentence for such an event.

And I don't even drink soda... but it'd be worth the sugar high to get the abuser put in jail.

Oh Goddess Ishtar I bow to your wisdom. As a lowly sub who has relatively recently acknowledged her desire for kink, I desire to sit at your feet and learn from the wisdom that you deign to share with us.

Seriously though, I would have drank the coke just because he told me not to and threatened me, but it wouldn't have occurred to me to egg him to create solid evidence to nail him with. Filing that one away!

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 3:10:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
As a submissive, if somebody would put a can of soda in front of me and a bottle of water and force me to choose by threat of a closed fist. I'd happily drink the soda to provoke him to beat me.
And if I deemed he didn't do it hard enough, I'd drink it again, until I was satisfied there would be enough evidence available.

Then... I'd pick up the phone, call the cops, and press charges against the asshole, and do everything I can to ensure he'd get the max allowable sentence for such an event.

And I don't even drink soda... but it'd be worth the sugar high to get the abuser put in jail.

Oh Goddess Ishtar I bow to your wisdom. As a lowly sub who has relatively recently acknowledged her desire for kink, I desire to sit at your feet and learn from the wisdom that you deign to share with us.

Seriously though, I would have drank the coke just because he told me not to and threatened me, but it wouldn't have occurred to me to egg him to create solid evidence to nail him with. Filing that one away!

Man, it's really my day... apparently everybody decided to start doing that today.

But seriously though... I've actually done something like that before in the past.

A club I used to go to had repeated unproven complaints of consent violations off premises with a dude that frequented there and targeted young clueless newbie subs.
The Owner of the club felt that, seeing that it never happened in the club, and seeing that there was no evidence (or real damage really, as the incidents were fairly minor, mostly pushing boundaries with people not yet experienced enough to set hard boundaries for themselves, and renegotiating scenes mid-scene when the girl was frazzled) I decided to offer myself up as bait.
The sucker pulled the same crap on me that he did on the other chicks, and we caught it all on tape.
Lifelong ban from the club.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 3:12:42 PM

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opening a coke.....because i can!

I'm falling asleep, so I think I'll go make myself a coffee with turbinado sugar and heavy cream.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 5:11:00 PM

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There's a difference between being dominant and being domineering. Bullying and abusiveness go under the heading of being domineering which is tied to feeling insecure.

You've got a very good point. I've never used corporal punishment on a submissive before. There are a lot of beautiful young female profiles that are asking to be beaten. It just got my imagination going and I thought I would ask other people's opinion. People who have experience in it.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 7:02:27 PM

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I'm somewhat afraid that I might knock out a tooth, etc., Lol.... but if the woman agrees to it...

If you might knock out a tooth what you are planning on doing is NOT punishment. It it just abuse and assault. You can go to jail for that even if you try to say she agreed to it. No one can legally agree to being assaulted.

If you yell and scream then I question that you are a dominant person at all. A dominant should have control of him or her self before considering taking control of another. If you have so little control that you need to yell and scream then obviously you lack self control.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 7:11:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

I'm somewhat afraid that I might knock out a tooth, etc., Lol.... but if the woman agrees to it...

If you might knock out a tooth what you are planning on doing is NOT punishment. It it just abuse and assault. You can go to jail for that even if you try to say she agreed to it. No one can legally agree to being assaulted.

If you yell and scream then I question that you are a dominant person at all. A dominant should have control of him or her self before considering taking control of another. If you have so little control that you need to yell and scream then obviously you lack self control.

MuscleBoundDom, do you see the part I bolded above this? Pay attention to that. That is not just her opinion, or my opinion, or anyone else's opinion. This is fact. Legal fact. As in, if you had a video of a sub telling the camera that she is freely consenting to you punching her in the face and possibly knocking teeth out, and then you actually did that, and she pressed charges, and you were arrested-said video would probably not even be allowed as evidence. Because that is the law-that no one can consent to being abused. There is currently a movement out there to get that changed, but it hasn't happened yet.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 7:13:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

There's a difference between being dominant and being domineering. Bullying and abusiveness go under the heading of being domineering which is tied to feeling insecure.

You've got a very good point. I've never used corporal punishment on a submissive before. There are a lot of beautiful young female profiles that are asking to be beaten. It just got my imagination going and I thought I would ask other people's opinion. People who have experience in it.

Many people express all sorts of desires.
It does not mean that those desires have ever been experienced outside the realm of fantasy.

Also, OP, some people do crave corporal punishment, but that can mean all sorts of things.
To many people, an OTK spanking by hand is enough corporal punishment for them.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 7:26:12 PM

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you were arrested-said video would probably not even be allowed as evidence.

Actually, such videos/contracts/etc do get admitted as evidence... just not on behalf of the defense.

The prosecution uses them to show intent, which aggravates the charges.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 7:32:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

you were arrested-said video would probably not even be allowed as evidence.

Actually, such videos/contracts/etc do get admitted as evidence... just not on behalf of the defense.

The prosecution uses them to show intent, which aggravates the charges.

I was so focused on the defense part I didn't even think about that, though I should have. I went to a bdsm and the law event a few weeks ago. The presenter is a member of our local group, and is also an attorney who has traveled throughout the region educating about this topic. He is experienced with bdsm court cases, and he specifically told us about a case that he was involved in where there was exactly this kind of video. And yes, it was presented as evidence for the prosecution.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 7:48:17 PM

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of course what else can you do other than sniffling for a new thread where you can squeeze your nose and annoy the author, *****TOS VIOLATION*****
for you who wanna discuss this matter in peace you can go ahead enjoy your time i will distract the Old farts .

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 8:59:08 PM

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of course what else can you do other than sniffling for a new thread where you can squeeze your nose and annoy the author, *****TOS VIOLATION*****
for you who wanna discuss this matter in peace you can go ahead enjoy your time i will distract the Old farts .

Who is MDR?

****

Just googled it: Mort De Rire (LOL in French)

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 9:20:31 PM

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Vidéos and recordings are not a valid evidence before the court, video taking and recordings must be authorized by a legal authority before they can be consisted as legal evidence, they can in some cases be considered as reference depending on the seriousness of the case, however in most cases you can be prosecuted for taking unauthorized videos and recordings,

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 9:31:16 PM

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Mdr muscle, 😂😂tkt Google est ton ami

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/11/2015 8:53:20 AM

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You've tried yelling, flogging, and light pushing to no avail?

I don't think that adding cp to the mix is going to help.

I think you need to take a step back and ask yourself why you're unable to get this person to do what you feel is right for them. I am pretty sure that the answer won't be "i'm just not applying enough violence".

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/11/2015 8:54:35 AM

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Err. Nope. You're really very wrong about this.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/11/2015 9:02:29 AM

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Vidéos and recordings are not a valid evidence before the court, video taking and recordings must be authorized by a legal authority before they can be consisted as legal evidence, they can in some cases be considered as reference depending on the seriousness of the case, however in most cases you can be prosecuted for taking unauthorized videos and recordings,

Read slowly. No one said anything about unauthorized videos and recordings.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/11/2015 11:53:23 AM

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We don't have a punishment dynamic. I'm an adult. Telling me what I've done wrong and helping me work towards a solution is far more productive. And honestly, I want him to be happy, so dealing with his disappointment is far worse than anything he could do to me physically.

Your submissive shouldn't need to be bullied to serve you, she should want to serve you and you should be setting her up to succeed, not fail.

It's not about being bullied. Believe me, the corporal punishment is for the benefit of the submissive. I've tried talking with them to eat healthy and exercise but they don't listen. I try yelling, flogging, light pushing, etc., but to no avail. I believe by being more physical they will listen better. As a submissive, I'm sure if you had a can of soda and a bottle of water in front of you, and someone with a closed fist is telling you to choose wisely OR ELSE, you will drink the bottled water.

This is all for the benefit of the submissive.

I'd drink what I damn well pleased and then issue a challenging smile.

Of course, I'm not a sub, just a nasty SOB.

Seriously, dude bro, you realize that doing such without explicit consent is a good way to get the cops called.
At that point, they will look at your damaged ex sub and your muscle bound ass and take you to some place that has bars and people who want to (and will) fuck you up the ass.

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