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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/11/2015 12:53:57 PM   
MariaB


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Status: offline 		I'm going to go out on a limb here because I'm a little baffled by so many defensive replies.

This site is much more about the compliant submissive/slave, than the other site that has all manner of groups, including some extremely sadistic ones. We shouldn't be surprised to learn such groups are highly popular to masochists and sadists.

Whilst screaming and yelling is not my thing, I do know a couple of dominants that do just that. One particular woman comes to mind because we all know she's present when she's in a club without us ever setting eyes on her. Its just her style and her boy seems to love it (Well he's still with her).

I know brats who push their dominants and who deliberately don't learn because they want the beatings and I know submissive masochists that would proudly show off a broken tooth. Whilst we may not like it, we have to accept that someone will.

Whilst an adult may not need 'punishment' to remedy their behaviour, some adults desire and actually believe they improve with punishment. If that's their thing, then providing its consensual and that the two people consenting are of sound mind and take the correct safety measures, what's the problem?

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/11/2015 1:35:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MariaB

I'm going to go out on a limb here because I'm a little baffled by so many defensive replies.



This dude has a history of saying that he's tried to force submissives who are not interested in him, or in losing weight to go on a fitness regime and diet, by means of intimidation, verbal aggression, and coercion.

Again, for clarity: with non-consensual people not yet in a relationship with him.

Now he's talking about knocking out teeth as a means of intimidation in order to get compliance with a girl who doesn't want to drink water instead of soda.

It's not so much the topic, as it's him, that is provoking the defensive replies.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/11/2015 2:01:59 PM   
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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/11/2015 2:32:08 PM   
MariaB


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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

quote:

ORIGINAL: MariaB

I'm going to go out on a limb here because I'm a little baffled by so many defensive replies.



This dude has a history of saying that he's tried to force submissives who are not interested in him, or in losing weight to go on a fitness regime and diet, by means of intimidation, verbal aggression, and coercion.

Again, for clarity: with non-consensual people not yet in a relationship with him.

Now he's talking about knocking out teeth as a means of intimidation in order to get compliance with a girl who doesn't want to drink water instead of soda.

It's not so much the topic, as it's him, that is provoking the defensive replies.


Fare enough UllrsIshtar, I had no idea and so only went by this one post. I just got the impression that all the BDSMers/D/sers here, thought CP and shouting was only for sick people.




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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/11/2015 2:41:27 PM   
UllrsIshtar


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ORIGINAL: MariaB

Fare enough UllrsIshtar, I had no idea and so only went by this one post. I just got the impression that all the BDSMers/D/sers here, thought CP and shouting was only for sick people.



I can see how it would come across like that to people only having seen this thread, and seeing that I'm one of the people who's responded negatively to him on this topic, I want to state for the record: I am totally for/into shouting, intimidation tactics, face slapping, and CP, as long as it involves consensual AND negotiated play with people who are educated enough to engage in such play safely.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/11/2015 2:54:26 PM   
J0K3ER


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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/11/2015 3:06:50 PM   
sexyred1


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ORIGINAL: MariaB


quote:

ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

quote:

ORIGINAL: MariaB

I'm going to go out on a limb here because I'm a little baffled by so many defensive replies.



This dude has a history of saying that he's tried to force submissives who are not interested in him, or in losing weight to go on a fitness regime and diet, by means of intimidation, verbal aggression, and coercion.

Again, for clarity: with non-consensual people not yet in a relationship with him.

Now he's talking about knocking out teeth as a means of intimidation in order to get compliance with a girl who doesn't want to drink water instead of soda.

It's not so much the topic, as it's him, that is provoking the defensive replies.


Fare enough UllrsIshtar, I had no idea and so only went by this one post. I just got the impression that all the BDSMers/D/sers here, thought CP and shouting was only for sick people.





No shouting. We were telling him that his approach was ludicrous and unrewarding.

If you agree to be badgered and preached at, non consensually, and then possibly slapped, then you MIGHT deal with the OP.

All others just rolled their eyes.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/11/2015 3:10:38 PM   
J0K3ER


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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/11/2015 3:15:52 PM   
MariaB


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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
I can see how it would come across like that to people only having seen this thread, and seeing that I'm one of the people who's responded negatively to him on this topic, I want to state for the record: I am totally for/into shouting, intimidation tactics, face slapping, and CP, as long as it involves consensual AND negotiated play with people who are educated enough to engage in such play safely.


Well that's why I was honestly surprised to see you responding negatively Like you say though, consensual and intelligent negotiation is the key to whatever our choices are.

If this guy gets the impression that BDSM can excuse abuse, then he shouldn't be here and NO-we shouldn't be supporting his choices.

I've not been on here much lately so I'm not keeping up with who's a troll and who isn't!


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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/11/2015 3:22:18 PM   
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Hi Maria, heres a link to his previous thread
Might give you some insight


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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/11/2015 7:17:41 PM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		Yelling, screaming, pushing and shoving would get you told to get lost immediately.

Honestly, if you're incapable of calmly explaining what you want her to do, and if necessary breaking it down into smaller steps that she can grasp, then you should never get into a power relationship.

You aren't able to teach, so she'll never learn. Not her fault but yours.

Maria: consensual play is fine. Lots of people (hell everyone) plays harder than me. Doesn't make them wrong. But this dude isn't talking about play. He really thinks this is how you teach people.

Let's hope he never becomes a pet owner or a parent with his attitude.

< Message edited by DesFIP -- 10/11/2015 7:19:47 PM >

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/11/2015 7:26:40 PM   
catize


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Status: offline 		~~FAST REPLY~~ While I was a masochist when in a d/s relationship, I did my very best to submit to my dominant ----CP was reward, not punishment. Screaming, slapping, shoving (IMO) would indicate to me that the dominant is frustrated with me----a place I chose not to put either of us. The OP here seems to think if what he has tried doesn't work then he needs to up the ante. I believe what we have been trying to tell him is that if she does not willingly submit then he is forcing her to against her will......just sayin'

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/11/2015 7:39:30 PM   
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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/12/2015 2:56:40 AM   
MariaB


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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/12/2015 5:44:49 AM   
Lucylastic


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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/15/2015 4:33:21 PM   
longwayhome


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ORIGINAL: MariaB


quote:

ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
I can see how it would come across like that to people only having seen this thread, and seeing that I'm one of the people who's responded negatively to him on this topic, I want to state for the record: I am totally for/into shouting, intimidation tactics, face slapping, and CP, as long as it involves consensual AND negotiated play with people who are educated enough to engage in such play safely.


Well that's why I was honestly surprised to see you responding negatively Like you say though, consensual and intelligent negotiation is the key to whatever our choices are.

If this guy gets the impression that BDSM can excuse abuse, then he shouldn't be here and NO-we shouldn't be supporting his choices.

I've not been on here much lately so I'm not keeping up with who's a troll and who isn't!



As a relative newcomer on the Boards, I was a little concerned with this thread from a YKIOK point of view, given some people's preference for ultra-violence. Not my cup of tea but who are we to judge?

Despite that initial concern, I agree with most poster's misgivings about the non-consensual non-consent the OP suggests, either because he wants a genuinely abusive situation or because he is just winding people up.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/17/2015 8:21:13 AM   
slavemali


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... I'm a natural at yelling, screaming, ordering, slight pushing and shoving..... that doesn't make you a Dominant slavemali 2015)



I was wondering if any other Doms or Dommes use corporal punishment with their hands? What has your experience been? Do the submissives learn and obey faster?



Well from my perspective as a slave the hand is great to receive. Can't say anything about "Do the submissives learn and obey faster?, because if your viewed as a fool, no submissive will waste their time with you... If you submissive is inexperienced you might have to work with them and bring them along....

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/20/2015 10:39:28 PM   
mistressgenesis


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Status: offline 		I do use My hands, although mainly for OTK spanking and (consensual) slapping. You have to be very careful, and learn what you're doing. Surprising a sub with a face slap is much riskier than a slap to fleshy areas.

Some of this conversation seems problematic. Subs learn to misbehave, when given funishment as "real" punishment. And subs will leave, if their hard limits and safety are not respected.

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