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RE: It Doesn't Have to Be A Mass Shooting To Be Awful - 10/12/2015 8:58:31 AM

ifmaz

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: joether

Yes, you are defending the lawbreakers.

And you are a piece of shit. Gun-owners, along with the NRA and the trade organization for the firearms industry, the National Shooting Sports Foundation, have been pushing for more action against gun crime for decades, for fixing the broken NICS system, stiffer penalties for illegal possession, and more vigorous efforts to pursue and prosecute traffickers, all to no avail. That they don't view your suggestions as the height of brilliance you imagine them to be doesn't mean they're defending killers. Is there no fucking bottom to how low you'll sink?

K.

So who exactly is opposing these measures and why?

It's not we're seeing the gun lobby in any all-out fight to achieve these. Or much of a less than all-out fight.

Ask your congressperson why NICS is continually underfunded. Year after year congress allocates $185M yet only appropriates under 10% of that amount. Donning a tinfoil hat, perhaps NICS remains underfunded to push the disarmament agenda. Perhaps slightly more realistically, enforcing existing laws doesn't get one's name in the paper; a new law, similar to the old but with a current congressperson's name on it, does.

President Obama has a Now Is The Time initiative which promises to increase funding for NICS. He also wants to revive the ban on "assault weapons" (rifle cosmetics), even though "assault weapon" refers to fully-automatic rifles which aren't generally available to civilians. Using the media definition of "assault weapon" to mean AR15, it is currently the most popular rifle in the United States. As both Ruger and S&W have AR15s on the market, perhaps now is the time to invest in those companies; if Obama's "fear tactics" are selling rifles and he openly stated he would seek to ban these rifles, one would expect sales for Ruger and S&W to increase.

Obama wants to "Finish the job of getting armor-piercing bullets off the streets", which refers to the M855 green-tip 5.56mm ammunition, popular with AR15s. These projectiles are in fact not armor piercing. I have not been able to find any case of M855 used in any sort of homicide but feel free to do your own research. Jerry Miculek has some history on the M855 (note: the first ~2m30s is him joking, for those unaware). Mr. Obama does seem to narrowly focus on the AR15 platform. In 2014, the FBI reports of the 12,253 homicides, only 285 were committed using rifles whereas 1,490 were committed by knives. Knife control does not appear on Mr. Obama's agenda, however. Banning "high capacity" magazines and enforcing a 10-round limit in all magazines solves nothing and is only there for show.

It should be noted that the last item on Obama's agenda is "Ensure quality coverage of mental health treatment, particularly for young people".

As for the firearm industry "not doing enough", I have yet to see Mr. Bloomberg do anything similar to distributing free gun locks like the National Shooting Sports Foundation does.

< Message edited by ifmaz -- 10/12/2015 8:59:44 AM >

(in reply to Musicmystery)