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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/27/2015 7:29:19 PM   
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Hey Bama... I found the surveillance tape of you robbing the 7/11



Butch

Come on now, you aren't FD.

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/27/2015 7:30:55 PM   
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Will ok... then here is a bona fide NRA member making our streets safer.



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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/27/2015 7:32:08 PM   
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Damn they are funny

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/27/2015 7:33:32 PM   
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Will ok... then here is a bona fide NRA member making our streets safer.



Butch

I doubt that either was.
The thug was incompetent.
And the other guy was unarmed.

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/27/2015 7:35:30 PM   
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Give it a little more time and a few more children brutally murdered and I and my like will have your guns… if you don’t submit to the coming new stringent gun laws. Laws brought on by your obstinate views on reasonable gun safety.

Butch


Interesting that "you and your like" will have all the firearms. What then? Perhaps your other word choice, submit, is telling.

But anyway.

Do you have any idea what kind of drastic change eliminating part of the Bill of Rights would be? Because I don't think you understand what you're casually, almost flippantly, suggesting.

But let me know when you have 38 states who agree the Bill of Rights is modifiable and certain (perhaps all?) rights are revokable. Then let me know who will be kicking in the doors of some 120 million homes to collect these firearms because I'm pretty sure the ACLU will frown upon such a blatant violation of the 4th Amendment, nevermind the general "molon labe" attitude in much of the firearm community.

EDIT: As BamaD pointed out, 38 states would be needed. I was, and remain, utterly dumbfounded at the suggestion to begin unravelling the Bill of Rights.


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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/27/2015 7:40:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Give it a little more time and a few more children brutally murdered and I and my like will have your guns… if you don’t submit to the coming new stringent gun laws. Laws brought on by your obstinate views on reasonable gun safety.

Butch


Interesting that "you and your like" will have all the firearms. What then? Perhaps your other word choice, submit, is telling.

But anyway.

Do you have any idea what kind of drastic change eliminating part of the Bill of Rights would be? Because I don't think you understand what you're casually, almost flippantly, suggesting.

But let me know when you have 30 states who agree the Bill of Rights is modifiable and certain (perhaps all?) rights are revokable. Then let me know who will be kicking in the doors of some 120 million homes to collect these firearms because I'm pretty sure the ACLU will frown upon such a blatant violation of the 4th Amendment, nevermind the general "molon labe" attitude in much of the firearm community.


One correction, it would take 38 states to ratify the change.

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/27/2015 7:49:22 PM   
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One correction, it would take 38 states to ratify the change.


Thanks, I was too taken aback at the suggestion the Bill of Rights can be modified. Because holyshit wow.

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/27/2015 7:59:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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but thats not what you said, she said.....
what you said
was.
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And it was prompted by Hillary's statement that she favored "madatory buybacks". Don't you pay attention.

thats YOUR SPIN
YOUR paranoia.. YOUR idiocy
You can ascribe whatever mind reading ability you want, its YOUR opinion...and therefore, irrelevant to the truth

And the idea that she doesn't favor them is your spin
Your paranoia
Your idiocy
your opinion
and therefore irrelevant to the truth.

you lied...about what she said...how can you be trusted with fact.


You don't think her saying she would "consider" something means she thinks it is reasonable? You are intitled to her opinion. To me, and most other people, that means it sounds like a good idea. Since I didn't claim to quote what she said I couldn't have lied about what she said, I just pointed out that she seems to favor it. You, once again, are quick to call things you don't like lies. One big difference between us is that I see people who disagree, and interpret things different than I do as wrong. You have to believe that they have terribley flawed charaters so you don't have to pay attention to what they say.
You said earlier that I put anyone who disagrees with me on hide, implying that you have access to my hide list. If you do someone in management it giving you access to information that you have no right to. If you don't you were talking through your hat.
I have 3 people on hide. 2 who insist on arguing over irrelevant things example for 1 demanding to argue over comparing the Cubans who landed at the Bay of Pigs to cop killers. For the 2nd one trying to prove that the militias didn't kick the butts of the British at Lexinton and Concord. The 3rd refuses to take a stand on anything but constantly talks down to people. I have no one else on hide, even though some go out of their way to be insulting, call everything they don't like a lie, or don't have a clue as to what they are talking about.


You lied. Simple fact.
Your hide list ....you are proud to announce who is on your hide list,
Your paranoia staight away jumps to me having your hide list from management..idiot.


You lied about what she said.
You lied.


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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/27/2015 8:08:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

but thats not what you said, she said.....
what you said
was.
quote:

And it was prompted by Hillary's statement that she favored "madatory buybacks". Don't you pay attention.

thats YOUR SPIN
YOUR paranoia.. YOUR idiocy
You can ascribe whatever mind reading ability you want, its YOUR opinion...and therefore, irrelevant to the truth

And the idea that she doesn't favor them is your spin
Your paranoia
Your idiocy
your opinion
and therefore irrelevant to the truth.

you lied...about what she said...how can you be trusted with fact.


You don't think her saying she would "consider" something means she thinks it is reasonable? You are intitled to her opinion. To me, and most other people, that means it sounds like a good idea. Since I didn't claim to quote what she said I couldn't have lied about what she said, I just pointed out that she seems to favor it. You, once again, are quick to call things you don't like lies. One big difference between us is that I see people who disagree, and interpret things different than I do as wrong. You have to believe that they have terribley flawed charaters so you don't have to pay attention to what they say.
You said earlier that I put anyone who disagrees with me on hide, implying that you have access to my hide list. If you do someone in management it giving you access to information that you have no right to. If you don't you were talking through your hat.
I have 3 people on hide. 2 who insist on arguing over irrelevant things example for 1 demanding to argue over comparing the Cubans who landed at the Bay of Pigs to cop killers. For the 2nd one trying to prove that the militias didn't kick the butts of the British at Lexinton and Concord. The 3rd refuses to take a stand on anything but constantly talks down to people. I have no one else on hide, even though some go out of their way to be insulting, call everything they don't like a lie, or don't have a clue as to what they are talking about.


You lied. Simple fact.
Your hide list ....you are proud to announce who is on your hide list,
Your paranoia staight away jumps to me having your hide list from management..idiot.


You lied about what she said.
You lied.


Turns out that one of the people I thought I had on hide I didn't.
No I do not "proudly" announce who is on my list, I post notice to them there is no point in talking to me.
The fact that I didn't describe her statements in the exact words you want doesn't make it a lie.
Since I didn't qoute her my view of what she said couldn't be a lie either.
You really want us to believe that she would "consider" it if she didn't think it was basically a good idea?
You have always delared anything you don't agree with to be a lie.
Only God can do that, and you sure aint God.

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/27/2015 8:09:17 PM   
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Damn they are funny

Yeah I know which hand you want us to watch, but I'm watching the other one.

K.






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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/27/2015 8:22:19 PM   
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Will we shall just have to have a difference of opinion on what is a solution and what is not. I just hope you're not so stuck up gun crazy you can't have a laugh over our disagreement.

Butch

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/27/2015 8:26:10 PM   
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You really want us to believe that she would "consider" it if she didn't think it was basically a good idea?

I think she'd "consider" making a rainbow flag the U.S. Navy Jack if she thought it would do her any good.

K.


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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/27/2015 8:31:50 PM   
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Will we shall just have to have a difference of opinion on what is a solution and what is not. I just hope you're not so stuck up gun crazy you can't have a laugh over our disagreement.

So with illegal guns being used to murder thousands of people every year in the United States, including children, you have a "difference of opinion" on increasing penalties for illegal possession, increased funding to pursue and prosecute traffickers in illegal weapons, and fixing and fully funding NICS.

Yeah, that's hilarious Butch. I'll have a good laugh over that one.

K.



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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/27/2015 8:38:41 PM   
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You really want us to believe that she would "consider" it if she didn't think it was basically a good idea?

I think she'd "consider" making a rainbow flag the U.S. Navy Jack if she thought it would do her any good.

K.



If she thought it would gain votes she would join ISIS.
As I said earlier she was floating this to see how much flack she took over it counting on using the word "consider" as cover. And we can see from at least one person on here bought it hook line and sinker.

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/27/2015 9:00:32 PM   
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So with illegal guns being used to murder thousands of people every year in the United States, including children, you have a "difference of opinion" on increasing penalties for illegal possession, increased funding to pursue and prosecute traffickers in illegal weapons, and fixing and fully funding NICS.

Yeah, that's hilarious Butch. I'll have a good laugh over that one.

K.


One need not look too far to find weapons traffickers, they could be as close as one's own "representatives".

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/27/2015 9:04:54 PM   
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So with illegal guns being used to murder thousands of people every year in the United States, including children, you have a "difference of opinion" on increasing penalties for illegal possession, increased funding to pursue and prosecute traffickers in illegal weapons, and fixing and fully funding NICS.

Yeah, that's hilarious Butch. I'll have a good laugh over that one.

K.


One need not look too far to find weapons traffickers, they could be as close as one's own "representatives".


Particularly anti gun Ca state Reps.

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/28/2015 7:58:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

You really want us to believe that she would "consider" it if she didn't think it was basically a good idea?

I think she'd "consider" making a rainbow flag the U.S. Navy Jack if she thought it would do her any good.

K.



If she thought it would gain votes she would join ISIS.
As I said earlier she was floating this to see how much flack she took over it counting on using the word "consider" as cover. And we can see from at least one person on here bought it hook line and sinker.



Every nutsucker is catamite to the military-industrial complex, their cover is not much more than window glass.


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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/28/2015 8:57:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD

You really want us to believe that she would "consider" it if she didn't think it was basically a good idea?

I think she'd "consider" making a rainbow flag the U.S. Navy Jack if she thought it would do her any good.

K.



If she thought it would gain votes she would join ISIS.
As I said earlier she was floating this to see how much flack she took over it counting on using the word "consider" as cover. And we can see from at least one person on here bought it hook line and sinker.



Another fucking lie, you idjit, I had an issue with you lying and misrepresenting the facts. I havent bought anything, I just know that you lie.
For example....http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4849229

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I think doing so would be almost as vile as Clintons manditory buyback plan,


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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/28/2015 10:19:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

You really want us to believe that she would "consider" it if she didn't think it was basically a good idea?

I think she'd "consider" making a rainbow flag the U.S. Navy Jack if she thought it would do her any good.

K.



If she thought it would gain votes she would join ISIS.
As I said earlier she was floating this to see how much flack she took over it counting on using the word "consider" as cover. And we can see from at least one person on here bought it hook line and sinker.



Another fucking lie, you idjit, I had an issue with you lying and misrepresenting the facts. I havent bought anything, I just know that you lie.
For example....http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4849229

quote:

I think doing so would be almost as vile as Clintons manditory buyback plan,


I must lie, I disagree with you. That has always been your stance and I suspect it alway will be.

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/28/2015 5:44:55 PM   
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Give it a little more time and a few more children brutally murdered and I and my like will have your guns… if you don’t submit to the coming new stringent gun laws. Laws brought on by your obstinate views on reasonable gun safety.

Butch


Interesting that "you and your like" will have all the firearms. What then? Perhaps your other word choice, submit, is telling.

But anyway.

Do you have any idea what kind of drastic change eliminating part of the Bill of Rights would be? Because I don't think you understand what you're casually, almost flippantly, suggesting.

But let me know when you have 38 states who agree the Bill of Rights is modifiable and certain (perhaps all?) rights are revokable. Then let me know who will be kicking in the doors of some 120 million homes to collect these firearms because I'm pretty sure the ACLU will frown upon such a blatant violation of the 4th Amendment, nevermind the general "molon labe" attitude in much of the firearm community.

EDIT: As BamaD pointed out, 38 states would be needed. I was, and remain, utterly dumbfounded at the suggestion to begin unravelling the Bill of Rights.



Actually, the Bill of Rights *IS* modifiable. Those ten amendments can be changed and removed the same as the other seventeen. When enough people get tired of the political bullshit of the NRA and its supporters; things will take place. Its not like most Americans would say much to the 3rd or 7th amendments being removed or modified. Most Americans do not know what the 3rd and 7th are defined. Do you?

How would 38 states agree to a change in the 2nd? When the people are tired of the bullshit going on. Given that less and less people vote in elections, that might not be a tough sell in the coming years. After a few high profile mass shootings and maybe one or two 'uprisings' by conservative nutcakes; it will not be tough to sell the changes at all.

But hey, the US Supreme Court already changed the spirit of the 2nd amendment (something those conservative Justices KNEW they could not do by law). Sooner or later, it'll be pointed out. Combined with everything else, it will not take a future US Supreme Court to change the rules back to their proper places..

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