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RE: The Man-Shaming Project - 11/1/2015 2:42:16 PM   
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Sure the cerebellum (instinct) drives behavior. But we are no longer toads. We have a pre-frontal cortex to over ride the cerebellum.

The toad brain may say to fornicate, fight, and consume mass quantities of cake. That does not mean that I HAVE to do so. Because I am an adult, I know that those May not be my best options at a particular moment.

Except for the insinct that says "eat chocolate"







Chocolate was one of the foods I had to cut out of my diet. So, yes, even the instinct to eat yummy dark chocolate can be overridden by the pre-frontal cortex.

This does not, however, prevent me from being annoyed each time I go to a buffet. Around here, desserts either include chocolate or are lemon. I like lemon just fine, but 10 chocolate choices and three lemon choices? Variety please!


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RE: The Man-Shaming Project - 11/1/2015 2:44:04 PM   
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The toad brain may say to fornicate, fight, and consume mass quantities of cake. That does not mean that I HAVE to do so.

Fornicate? Indeed not.

Fight? Same here.

But cake . . . ?!

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RE: The Man-Shaming Project - 11/1/2015 2:49:44 PM   
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Chocolate was one of the foods I had to cut out of my diet. So, yes, even the instinct to eat yummy dark chocolate can be overridden by the pre-frontal cortex.

This does not, however, prevent me from being annoyed each time I go to a buffet. Around here, desserts either include chocolate or are lemon. I like lemon just fine, but 10 chocolate choices and three lemon choices? Variety please!

My favorite buffet is the billagio where they typically have 22 chocolate offeringsplenty of variety

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RE: The Man-Shaming Project - 11/1/2015 2:54:27 PM   
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The toad brain may say to fornicate, fight, and consume mass quantities of cake. That does not mean that I HAVE to do so.

Fornicate? Indeed not.

Fight? Same here.

But cake . . . ?!


I have found DC's sacred cow. Way to go Aylee!

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RE: The Man-Shaming Project - 11/1/2015 3:01:52 PM   
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Instinct has and always will be a factor in what drives behavior, even if its not always socially acceptable. Sorry.



I'm surprised this is open for debate considering you only have to spend 10 minutes with a group of people to understand that we're not as reasonable as we like to think we are.

As David Hume quite rightly pointed out, we're much closer to animals than we are to God.

It's a very human thing to do to put ourselves on a pedestal when the evidence doesn't support this supposed pre-eminent position at the centre of the world.


Exactly my light skinned brother.
Ofc there are other factors that go into decision making, but at the basis of all those are primal instinct. Also, that David Hume quote made me ponder why people consider god to be so far from our own image.

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RE: The Man-Shaming Project - 11/1/2015 3:54:13 PM   
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Instinct has and always will be a factor in what drives behavior, even if its not always socially acceptable. Sorry.



I'm surprised this is open for debate considering you only have to spend 10 minutes with a group of people to understand that we're not as reasonable as we like to think we are.

As David Hume quite rightly pointed out, we're much closer to animals than we are to God.

It's a very human thing to do to put ourselves on a pedestal when the evidence doesn't support this supposed pre-eminent position at the centre of the world.


Exactly my light skinned brother.
Ofc there are other factors that go into decision making, but at the basis of all those are primal instinct. Also, that David Hume quote made me ponder why people consider god to be so far from our own image.


You mean God being capable of no more than eating ice cream, seeking out fridge magnets and waking up with a kebab stuck to his leg after a night on the beer? I reckon his status as saviour would be knocked on the head sharpish.


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RE: The Man-Shaming Project - 11/1/2015 5:15:14 PM   
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Isn't it heart-warming that certain arguments here in this forum prompt so many new people to post for the first time?

I just had to say that. : -)

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RE: The Man-Shaming Project - 11/1/2015 6:12:57 PM   
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I have found DC's sacred cow. Way to go Aylee!

Well, one of them. There's a whole herd.

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RE: The Man-Shaming Project - 11/1/2015 6:34:35 PM   
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What part of feminism isn't about shaming men when they talk about men?

All of it? Feminism has nothing to do with shaming anyone.

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Being a male is pretty much illegal in feminist logic.

Poor Little Nicky. Only a moron, or someone who doesn't have the slightest idea of what feminism is, would say such a thing. Since you've been parroting this nonsense since your first day here, it's pretty clear this is not an either/or situation in your case.

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We must think and act like women when it comes to sex and everyday life or else we are oppressors.

Second verse, same as the first.




He's right.

Don't know his entire thesis but.....look at any 10 TV shows...the man is always the dupe.

Pick another 10....guy is the idiot.

Pick on a woman in media.....might as well hang up your hat.

Pick on a man....go.

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RE: The Man-Shaming Project - 11/1/2015 6:39:37 PM   
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You know OP, your obsession with blaming your issues on feminism, is coming from a very sad place.

You can be beautiful, ugly, old, young, charming or stupid, men and women too.

But the very worst thing to be is boring.


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RE: The Man-Shaming Project - 11/1/2015 10:05:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


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What part of feminism isn't about shaming men when they talk about men?

All of it? Feminism has nothing to do with shaming anyone.

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Being a male is pretty much illegal in feminist logic.

Poor Little Nicky. Only a moron, or someone who doesn't have the slightest idea of what feminism is, would say such a thing. Since you've been parroting this nonsense since your first day here, it's pretty clear this is not an either/or situation in your case.

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We must think and act like women when it comes to sex and everyday life or else we are oppressors.

Second verse, same as the first.




He's right.

Don't know his entire thesis but.....look at any 10 TV shows...the man is always the dupe.

Pick another 10....guy is the idiot.

Pick on a woman in media.....might as well hang up your hat.

Pick on a man....go.


I was Supernatural and it just depends on the episode as to who is the dupe. But yeah I am tired of the men are stupid shows and commercials which is why I don't watch them. I also don't watch shows with bullying or domestic violence.

As far as women, Raven-Symone is catching an awful lot of flak right now. Just sayin.

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RE: The Man-Shaming Project - 11/1/2015 10:22:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
Sure the cerebellum (instinct) drives behavior. But we are no longer toads. We have a pre-frontal cortex to over ride the cerebellum.

The toad brain may say to fornicate, fight, and consume mass quantities of cake. That does not mean that I HAVE to do so. Because I am an adult, I know that those May not be my best options at a particular moment.

Hah, I like the term toad brain. I've always known it to be reptile brain or lizard brain. Toad is so much more evocative!

Yes, this is what's left when one is starving to death, when the body shuts down and then last of all the heart & brain. Those who cannibalize other humans are no longer "human" in the true sense of the word. They have lost their humanity, their warm-blooded, mammalian feeling nature (emotional center/mammal brain -- FU to those who claim that animals feel no emotions! A pox on your house. ), and are functioning on the only section of the damaged brain which is still alive, the cold-blooded part near the brain stem. It does not compute relationship, familial bonds, bonds of intimacy, doesn't register intelligent reasoning or abstract thought; it is driven on the basest instinct for survival and self-preservation.

This is why some men are seen as monsters for the heinous acts they commit. They have turned into toads. This devolution forfeits them the right to be treated with basic human rights, and yet we in our humanity do not deny them their birthright into the human race despite their transmogrifications.

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ORIGINAL: Aylee
Chocolate was one of the foods I had to cut out of my diet. So, yes, even the instinct to eat yummy dark chocolate can be overridden by the pre-frontal cortex.

This does not, however, prevent me from being annoyed each time I go to a buffet. Around here, desserts either include chocolate or are lemon. I like lemon just fine, but 10 chocolate choices and three lemon choices? Variety please!

Your buffets feature 3 kinds of lemon desserts? I am so envious, I can't tell you. I'm lucky if I can find one single key lime flavor in either pie or cheesecake!

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RE: The Man-Shaming Project - 11/3/2015 1:10:15 AM   
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The fact that you whinge and whinge about women tells me all I need to know, and anybody else with 2 functioning brain cells.


Wow, last time I checked, there is a whopper difference between complaining about a gender (women) than there is to complain about a movement (feminism)

Feminists mostly complain about a gender (men). On the other hand, I mostly complain about a movement, not a gender.

So you tell me who is showing the fear here and who is veering the most towards sexism?

This is just as stupid as me saying just because you criticise the men's rights movement, that means you are whinging about men, not simply just the men's rights movement. Therefore, you fear men! Androphobia.

You can clearly see the double standard here. Feminists love double standards...only when it's in favour of women of course.


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You DO know that a guy who tends to be well adjusted, qualified and has some social skills doesn't whinge on and on abut women


Well without sexist double standards, that must mean a woman who is a feminist is not well adjusted, qualified and has some social skills. If it means this when a man complains about feminism, why not should the same apply when a woman complains about men's rights and/or men?

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It must be a damned sad existence if you're worried about women having the same rights as men


So how about a quote from me that indicates this "worry" about women having the same rights as men.

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You know a guy who's attractive doesn't need to pounce on a drunk woman, he can pull a sober one.


The other way around, a woman hitting on a drunk man, alllll okay. Praise double standards.

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So you have a problem that women don't like to be seen as objects


Men can run their sexuality just how they like...just like how feminists keep telling men to not tell women how to run their sexuality. No slut shaming! Women should have sexual liberation.

It seems that feminists think they can tell men what to do with their sexuality but heavens above if men tell feminists/women what to do with their sexuality.

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you have a problem with men being told to not rape


Yep, because men ALREADY know its wrong to rape. So its being condescending and treating men as they are dumb idiots, which is extremely sexist. This is no better than making campaigns that indicate "teach women not to be gold diggers" or "teach muslims not to be terrorists" or "teach blacks not to be criminals."

Bigotry is bigotry. You can't change the meaning of it when it suits you. If bigotry is wrong one way, its wrong all ways. That's genuine equality.

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Objectifying and raping is a privilege in your world?


Where the flying fuck did I ever claim that objectifying and rape is a privilege?

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RE: The Man-Shaming Project - 11/3/2015 1:24:16 AM   
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I have found DC's sacred cow. Way to go Aylee!

Well, one of them. There's a whole herd.

now dc, please share the "whole herd". Don't leave us dangling with no option but to imagine them ......

I await the details with bated breath

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RE: The Man-Shaming Project - 11/6/2015 12:18:02 PM   
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RE: The Man-Shaming Project - 11/6/2015 12:21:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm lucky if I can find one single key lime flavor in either pie or cheesecake!

Stop at costco and get the cupon then straight to see's for the key lime truffels

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RE: The Man-Shaming Project - 11/6/2015 12:24:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Darling, feminism is about gender equality, so why on earth are you so afraid of women having equal rights?

And since men already know that rape is wrong and don't need to be told so, why on earth does it happen all the time? Ever thought about that? Telling them it is not OK and stuff like "well if she does dress like that she wants it" is not acceptable actually doesn't shame men, because the ones who know it is wrong already will simply agree, the only ones who seem to have a problem with it are the ones who think rape is fine.

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RE: The Man-Shaming Project - 11/6/2015 10:32:14 PM   
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Darling, feminism is about gender equality, so why on earth are you so afraid of women having equal rights?

And since men already know that rape is wrong and don't need to be told so, why on earth does it happen all the time? Ever thought about that? Telling them it is not OK and stuff like "well if she does dress like that she wants it" is not acceptable actually doesn't shame men, because the ones who know it is wrong already will simply agree, the only ones who seem to have a problem with it are the ones who think rape is fine.

Excellent points. But I'm afraid you're making too much sense for the OP -- he just might implode.

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I'm lucky if I can find one single key lime flavor in either pie or cheesecake!

Stop at costco and get the cupon then straight to see's for the key lime truffels

Oh, it's not that I can't find it anywhere, it's at buffets.
I'm not really one for desserts, so I shouldn't complain, although I could use some fattening up.
I don't think I've ever seen a lime truffle, much less tasted one. Those could be my undoing!

Thanks for the tips, all the same.

DreamLady

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RE: The Man-Shaming Project - 11/7/2015 3:52:00 AM   
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Lucy is a feminist.
Lucy was a stay at home mom
All feminists are stay at home moms.
But Lucy doesnt like egg plant... so ...noo feminist likes eggplant!!!
(Winks at Aylee)



I hate eggplant, so guess I must be a hard core feminist. But I have no problems when men open a door for me so hard core feminists must enjoy having guys hold the door for them. whoda thunk it.

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RE: The Man-Shaming Project - 11/7/2015 4:03:43 AM   
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Darling, feminism is about gender equality


He'd just reply with 'No, feminism is about what feminists do'. You might then ask, 'How do you recognise what a feminist is, in order to judge what s/he does?' .... But I don't think you'd get anywhere. The bottom line is that every woman who does anything nasty, or any man who supports her, is a feminist by definition. And all 'feminists' under this 'definition' are to be lumped together as one, natch. There's no card so useful in the political propagandist's hand as a nice, slack definition of his or her bête noire.

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