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Spiritedsub2 -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/26/2015 9:39:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ScorpiousOH

I believe that entitlement is just human nature.
When I go to a BDSM luncheon with my friends I'm entitled to be addressed property and treated with respect.
In public, I'm entitled to have the door opened for me.
I'm entitled certain things from the government.

I believe Dominant women and men are entitled to certain things.
People do "owe" you if you believe they do.
If I'm at a munch and a submissive wants my time, they "owe" me.

You aksed why do people believe they are entitled. You're aksing for opinions. I gave you my opinion. I'm entitled because I deserve it.


Awesome. Another sock troll.



Spiritedsub2 -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/26/2015 9:59:59 AM)

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I work with the public sector, and I see (meaning my opinion only) that roughly 95% of Anericans at this time in our culture feel righteously entitled, and certainly not just to sex. Entitled to sue and be awarded large unearned sums of money because someone "disrespected" them, because they tripped on the sidewalk, because they bred children they can't afford to support; I could go on forever.

I don't know if this is true in other countries, just the one I roam around in. This entitlement sense doesn't serve people well. Makes them weak, not self reliant, unable/unwilling to make effort on their own behalf, and unable to be grateful for the good in their lives.

I would appreciate a "Dom" requiring tribute of me. Once I stop laughing I could move on and not waste any more of my time. Early red flags and signs of weak pussy-ness are better than late ones.



ScorpiousOH -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/26/2015 10:03:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2
I work with the public sector, and I see (meaning my opinion only) that roughly 95% of Anericans at this time in our culture feel righteously entitled, and certainly not just to sex. Entitled to sue and be awarded large unearned sums of money because someone "disrespected" them, because they tripped on the sidewalk, because they bred children they can't afford to support; I could go on forever.


EXACTLY! That's how I see it too.



J0K3ER -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/26/2015 10:32:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Bhruic


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ORIGINAL: J0K3ER I am against findomme and you happened to be one so i am against you.


You are against Findomme, yet you bought a Findomme a gift from her Amazon wish list? You might be confused about the meaning of the word "against".

I'm certainly "contre " findom, but not against tease and deny.



zombiegurlsos -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/26/2015 11:26:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ScorpiousOH


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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2
I work with the public sector, and I see (meaning my opinion only) that roughly 95% of Anericans at this time in our culture feel righteously entitled, and certainly not just to sex. Entitled to sue and be awarded large unearned sums of money because someone "disrespected" them, because they tripped on the sidewalk, because they bred children they can't afford to support; I could go on forever.


EXACTLY! That's how I see it too.


This post gets my support to!



zombiegurlsos -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/26/2015 11:32:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: J0K3ER


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ORIGINAL: Bhruic


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ORIGINAL: J0K3ER I am against findomme and you happened to be one so i am against you.


You are against Findomme, yet you bought a Findomme a gift from her Amazon wish list? You might be confused about the meaning of the word "against".

I'm certainly "contre " findom, but not against tease and deny.




Is it just me or is this reply not contributing to the discussion as it doesn't address entitlement as in
RE: People Are Entitled?



kdsub -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/26/2015 12:09:21 PM)

Ah Greta... you are a modern woman and intriguing I must say. I believe there is a definite divide in how my generation and perhaps the newer ones think of relationships and women in general. I was raised to be gentleman around women. This required me to walk on the traffic side when escorting a woman... open doors... use proper introductions... watch my language... take off my hat in their presence..and of course always take care of expenses when on a date.

This does not mean I would not try to make love to you...but I would do my best to make you comfortable in our relationship first. Then above all I would adore you until when I made my move you could not resist my touch.

I'm not so sure this is not a better way than how it is often done today.

Butch



BitaTruble -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/26/2015 12:27:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cindyluvNY



... "why do people think they are "entitled?"
There are 7 billion + people on the planet and entitlement can come from gender, wealth, status, religion, morals, ethics dot dot dot, so rather than answer from the whole, I'm just going to base my answer within the context of Leather or power influenced dynamics.



I think at least a bit of it has to do with expectation because there are D-types, aggressive, actionable folks who often get exactly what they want.

What starts off as confidence can turn to swagger especially when there are folks who will fawn and fuss over D-types just because they have that D and for no other reason.

In some instances I think a case can be made that we have been hoist by our own petard.

If it's kept to swagger, I don't see a problem with it. If it goes beyond consent.. that's a problem that can be dealt with when it happens.

I would keep watch for things like signs of escalation in behavior but if it's a standing MO with a fuck me or get lost bitch attitude.. I'm actually cool with that because getting lost is something this bitch can do pretty damn well.









dreamlady -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/26/2015 12:52:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kdsub
I believe there is a definite divide in how my generation and perhaps the newer ones think of relationships and women in general. I was raised to be gentleman around women. This required me to walk on the traffic side when escorting a woman... open doors... use proper introductions... watch my language... take off my hat in their presence..and of course always take care of expenses when on a date.

This does not mean I would not try to make love to you...but I would do my best to make you comfortable in our relationship first. Then above all I would adore you until when I made my move you could not resist my touch.

I'm not so sure this is not a better way than how it is often done today.

Butch

My kind of man, a gentleman, no matter at what age [;)] (acting like a gentleman, of course, not that I'd go for one at no matter what age!)

Excuse me for a moment while I throw up in my mouth:
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ORIGINAL: ScorpiousOH
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I believe Dominant women and men are entitled to certain things.
People do "owe" you if you believe they do.
If I'm at a munch and a submissive wants my time, they "owe" me.

You aksed why do people believe they are entitled. You're aksing for opinions. I gave you my opinion. I'm entitled because I deserve it.

With all due respect, [:'(][:'(][:'(] it's dudes like you who give Dominants a bad name, particularly maleDoms -- the whole lot of low-class, recidivistic knuckle-draggling men, as a matter of fact.

No male owes me anything but the common courtesy of being a gentleman and showing me that he has some class.
You could perhaps learn a lesson from the submissive men I am proud to have as my friends.

Edit: Oops, just realized that you're not a dude, Scorpius -- it should be Scorpia cuz "us" in Latin indicates the male gender.
At any rate, spoken like a twue self-absorbed Top. [8D]



LadyPact -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/26/2015 12:57:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cindyluvNY

I have my own circle of friends, mostly but not all, who are into BDSM. We talk and chat and sometimes go to Munches. I belong to this site and another forum site. Most of my group are women but a few men.

I was talking to a dominant man and he said that when he meets a submissive he is entitled to have sex with her. When he dates and spends money on her he is entitled to sex. Sadly, I know other men who feel entitled to have sex. And other things too. I asked him why does he think he's entitled to have sex with someone he just met?

He said if he is going to train her to be his submissive/slave, he wants compensation, mainly in the form of sex. He said dominant women get compensated. He has to pay a tribute. Her entitlement is money. If not money, then she is entitled to a massage, foot pedicure, etc. I told him but those are pro-dommes. They do this for a living. He went on ranting saying women expect this and that too.

I thought about it and it does seem like everyone feels "entitled." But I don't understand that thinking. If I meet someone, he/she doesn't owe me anything and I don't owe him/her anything.

With the exception of being treated with respect, why do people think they are "entitled?"

And, uh, exactly how many people is he training [8|] now?

I'm curious. Is this somebody you were talking to in real life or was this some bozo that you were exchanging emails with from that cesspool that is the personals side of this joint?

By luck, I happen to be a female Dominant and no, not all of us are running around getting compensated for our time. I wouldn't know the first thing about that.




sexyred1 -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/26/2015 1:51:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ScorpiousOH

I believe that entitlement is just human nature.
When I go to a BDSM luncheon with my friends I'm entitled to be addressed property and treated with respect.
In public, I'm entitled to have the door opened for me.
I'm entitled certain things from the government.

I believe Dominant women and men are entitled to certain things.
People do "owe" you if you believe they do.
If I'm at a munch and a submissive wants my time, they "owe" me.

You aksed why do people believe they are entitled. You're aksing for opinions. I gave you my opinion. I'm entitled because I deserve it.


And here we have another clueless person.

Dominant men and women are not entitled to anything by virtue of saying they are dominant.

People do not owe you anything simply because you think they do.

If you are at a munch and a submissive wants your time, they owe you nothing, but social courtesy.

Stop deluding yourself that labels provide entitlement.

As Michael said, I agree that the only thing owed humans is basic civility/courtesy. No one deserves entitlement.

Entitlement is normally seen as arrogant and delusional.




DesFIP -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/26/2015 3:13:17 PM)

The clueless dude is entitled to tell women that he won't buy them dinner if they don't guarantee a bj first. And they're entitled to tell him to drop dead.

However, if he doesn't negotiate this upfront, and tries to compel them to have unwanted sex afterwards, then he's entitled to due process under the law for the crime of rape.

Since he isn't in jail, I have to assume he doesn't actually do this in real life, he's just trying this nonsense with online peeps.



Wayward5oul -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/26/2015 4:20:33 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2


quote:

ORIGINAL: ScorpiousOH

I believe that entitlement is just human nature.
When I go to a BDSM luncheon with my friends I'm entitled to be addressed property and treated with respect.
In public, I'm entitled to have the door opened for me.
I'm entitled certain things from the government.

I believe Dominant women and men are entitled to certain things.
People do "owe" you if you believe they do.
If I'm at a munch and a submissive wants my time, they "owe" me.

You aksed why do people believe they are entitled. You're aksing for opinions. I gave you my opinion. I'm entitled because I deserve it.


Awesome. Another sock troll.

This is ridiculous. Its almost sickening.



LookieNoNookie -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/26/2015 4:22:22 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2


quote:

ORIGINAL: ScorpiousOH

I believe that entitlement is just human nature.
When I go to a BDSM luncheon with my friends I'm entitled to be addressed property and treated with respect.
In public, I'm entitled to have the door opened for me.
I'm entitled certain things from the government.

I believe Dominant women and men are entitled to certain things.
People do "owe" you if you believe they do.
If I'm at a munch and a submissive wants my time, they "owe" me.

You aksed why do people believe they are entitled. You're aksing for opinions. I gave you my opinion. I'm entitled because I deserve it.


Awesome. Another sock troll.


Socks are people too.



Spiritedsub2 -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/26/2015 4:23:37 PM)

Don't tell anyone I'm your sock.



LookieNoNookie -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/26/2015 4:31:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2

Don't tell anyone I'm your sock.


(That's not for me to say....I am a gentleman after all....and that night was between us...and no one else).



OsideGirl -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/26/2015 4:34:37 PM)

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Spiritedsub2 -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/26/2015 4:38:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

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I was hoping to remain anonymous [:(]



Lucylastic -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/26/2015 4:40:40 PM)

No way....really?



Spiritedsub2 -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/26/2015 4:41:20 PM)

I could almost be JanahX's twin :D



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