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DaddySatyr -> RE: People Are Entitled? (10/27/2015 4:49:15 AM)
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The general answer is that the only thing to which any human being is entitled is common courtesy.
I tend to see things in a more meta context.
That is, such things as common courtesy are social codes. Politeness greases the wheels of our interactions with each other. It reduces friction by providing a lubricating buffer between individuals and groups.
Consequently, I'll use it because it facilitates my movement through the world. Now that I live in the US, I've had to step up my politeness because Americans tend to be more overtly polite, whereas I'd characterise interactions in my home country as being more real. We perceive American politeness as somewhat fake. ("Have a nice day" just makes me loathe the person saying it - because I know they couldn't give a shit). And frankly, saying the right things while giving off contradictory body language is just never going to fly with me - it's patently insincere.
I don't know that we disagree, except that you're attributing a definition of "common courtesy" to me which I never gave. In fact, I find your specific example of "Have a nice day" to be just as disingenuous as you appear to. My typical responses are: "Thanks, but I have other plans" or "Don't tell me what kind of day to have" and it always leaves 'em scratching their heads.
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So. Are people entitled to common courtesy? Not for me. I can see why people like yourself would think otherwise - it's an aspect of who you are, who you believe yourself to be and your belief in what constitutes upright behaviour. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Well, again, you're kind of supposin' and concludin'. I consider common courtesy to be along the lines of "please", "thank you" and holding a door for the person entering directly behind you (not waiting on them to get there).
I consider it to be really simple things like not brushing right by someone on the street (or, worse yet, walking toward them and refusing to "give way" when it is easily doable for you but not so much for them).
I'm not sure how to take "people like yourself" in reference to me, but realizing how acerbic you can be at times and, since you've engaged in supposition regarding me, I'll just take it as not a good thing.
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For me, I tend to think of people as guilty until proven innocent. I'll keep them at a distance until I decide they're not fucking morons. Social codes are part of that. It's not that they're entitled to common courtesy, it's that I find it a tool for managing and evaluating them.
Lastly, I think you may be conflating "respect" and "common courtesy". I tend to keep people at something of a distance, also, but the things I've described in this post aren't respect. I hold very few people in high esteem.
"I tend to think of people as guilty until proven innocent" Well, how sad for you. You have my sympathy to have been that hurt by life.
Michael
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