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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr I don't know that we disagree, except that you're attributing a definition of "common courtesy" to me which I never gave. In fact, I find your specific example of "Have a nice day" to be just as disingenuous as you appear to. My typical responses are: "Thanks, but I have other plans" or "Don't tell me what kind of day to have" and it always leaves 'em scratching their heads. It's mostly a retail thing. I will say however, that there's a marked difference in demeanour between retail staff/service workers in the USA and back home. Your guys here are far more servile. I'll never forget backing into some poor woman attempting to do her job in the supermarket only to have her profusely apologise to me for the accidental contact. quote:
Well, again, you're kind of supposin' and concludin'. I consider common courtesy to be along the lines of "please", "thank you" and holding a door for the person entering directly behind you (not waiting on them to get there). I consider it to be really simple things like not brushing right by someone on the street (or, worse yet, walking toward them and refusing to "give way" when it is easily doable for you but not so much for them). As I said, this is a social code. Usually inculcated in people during their early years. And while philosophically, I tend toward utilitarianism, I'm also patently aware that social interactions between human beings are far more layered than they first appear. The giving way thing is interesting. People in New Zealand seem less inclined to give way while walking down the street and women almost never do. There's - ironically - a tendency toward entitlement. And a lot of men here seem to automatically do what they can to accommodate them. Naturally, since I noticed, I've amused myself by managing the eye contact game to ensure they're the one who gives way. Possession of a vagina doesn't entitle a woman to special treatment. quote:
I'm not sure how to take "people like yourself" in reference to me, but realizing how acerbic you can be at times and, since you've engaged in supposition regarding me, I'll just take it as not a good thing. I wouldn't overthink it if I were you. I wouldn't throw in a disclaimer saying 'there's nothing wrong with that' if I was being explicitly critical. quote:
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ORIGINAL: Awareness For me, I tend to think of people as guilty until proven innocent. I'll keep them at a distance until I decide they're not fucking morons. Social codes are part of that. It's not that they're entitled to common courtesy, it's that I find it a tool for managing and evaluating them. Lastly, I think you may be conflating "respect" and "common courtesy". I tend to keep people at something of a distance, also, but the things I've described in this post aren't respect. I hold very few people in high esteem. I don't think so. You effectively apply your idea of common courtesy to everyone on the basis - presumably - that you believe it's something they're entitled to as a human being. As I said previously, that's mostly based on who you believe yourself to be. quote:
"I tend to think of people as guilty until proven innocent" Well, how sad for you. You have my sympathy to have been that hurt by life. Michael *chuckle* Oh please, spare me the pop-psych analysis. When you've dealt with people en masse, you start to understand the base nature which lies underneath us all, the tendency toward fear and greed, the reality that crime is as much about opportunity as anything else. (The average person is astonishingly willing to steal.) As Shakespeare put it, "There's no art, to find the mind's construction in the face". This forum is full to the brim with regulars, many of whom play out their own underlying issues, indulge their petty vendettas and express the spiteful aspects of themselves without restraint. They are so very average, so why would I waste time or energy with those people? Life is too short. I prefer those who manage to think beyond their own immediate gratification. And frankly, that is not a common trait. Well, since it came back up... I've worked retail. I've waited tables. Heck, I even flipped burgers once. Honest day's work. I had no problem saying "have a nice day" if it fed my family. People forget that kind of thing.
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