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RE: Republican Debate part 3 - 11/7/2015 5:02:56 PM   
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First of all the most ignorant annoying assholes were the cnbc question makers.
Nasty
The candidates werent much better.
I havent watched it all, I missed the early part...
They seem to wannabe libs tonite...
strange that



I think it's awesome (whether you like the guy or not) that Trump has been the ringleader in saying...."hey....quit being assholes....these are stooooopit questions".

It's been funny watching this gig.

At first, no one knew what to do with the guy....now they're all following him.

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RE: Republican Debate part 3 - 11/7/2015 5:15:01 PM   
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The Politico story does show that Carson said several times that he was "offered a full scholarship to West Point." He made that claim in his book, "Gifted Hands," and in several media interviews, including during an appearance on Charlie Rose last month.


Anyone whose head is not up their ass would know that there are no scolarships to the point only appointments.

Carson acknowledged Friday that he was never offered a full scholarship to West Point, and sought to clarify that he had instead been given an informal offer or "nomination" to attend West Point.

"Because I had done so extraordinarily well you know I was told that someone like me --
they could get a scholarship to West Point. But I made it clear I was going to pursue a career in medicine,"

Most med schools require a bachelors degree for admission.


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RE: Republican Debate part 3 - 11/7/2015 5:23:21 PM   
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There are three ways to get into the service academies. And yes, one if them is that informal conversation. As I said, if the General said he could get him in, then it was a sure thing. Not just a bringing him to certain people's attention.


No transcript? No physical? No SATs? No interview?


You are sooooo right. The appointment gets you to the door. Then the sats the physical etc. They only accept about 10% of those applying.

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RE: Republican Debate part 3 - 11/7/2015 7:16:31 PM   
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There are three ways to get into the service academies. And yes, one if them is that informal conversation. As I said, if the General said he could get him in, then it was a sure thing. Not just a bringing him to certain people's attention.

No transcript? No physical? No SATs? No interview?


They already had that info on him. He was in ROTC.

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RE: Republican Debate part 3 - 11/7/2015 11:39:57 PM   
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First of all the most ignorant annoying assholes were the cnbc question makers.
Nasty
The candidates werent much better.
I havent watched it all, I missed the early part...
They seem to wannabe libs tonite...
strange that



I think it's awesome (whether you like the guy or not) that Trump has been the ringleader in saying...."hey....quit being assholes....these are stooooopit questions".

It's been funny watching this gig.

At first, no one knew what to do with the guy....now they're all following him.

trying to demand who questions them, what questions, demanding only republicans be allowed to interview or moderate, its not funny, its a deep slide into disgust and pure bullshit.
He is like an fox news internet comment section running for president.


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RE: Republican Debate part 3 - 11/8/2015 8:32:21 AM   
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They already had that info on him. He was in ROTC.

Interesting. The service academies do seem to operate differently.

I wonder what portion of an average West Point or Annapolis class is recruited that way.

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RE: Republican Debate part 3 - 11/8/2015 10:01:56 AM   
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They already had that info on him. He was in ROTC.

Interesting. The service academies do seem to operate differently.

I wonder what portion of an average West Point or Annapolis class is recruited that way.


My guess would be around 10% and mostly for sports and such. There are also legacy recruits.

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RE: Republican Debate part 3 - 11/8/2015 8:42:26 PM   
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It's interesting deeply and how hard Politico dug into Carson'a story.

***Here is a list of just some of the many inaccuracies in Barack Obama’s personal bio that the media never bothered to investigate.

From IJ Review:

1. “Obama’s Staff Corrects WWII Story” (New York Times)
In response to a question at a Memorial Day appearance in New Mexico, Mr. Obama said an uncle helped liberate the Nazi death camp at Auschwitz during World War II. The problem? That story didn’t track with history, considering Auschwitz was liberated by Soviet forces.


2. Selma Birth Connection (Independent Journal)
“[W]hen the president spoke before an audience in Selma back in 2007, Obama credited the civil rights march as the inspiration for his conception. The only problem with that, as conservative punditMichelle Malkin points out, is that the president was already three years old when the march occurred in 1965.”
3. “Obama Overstates Kennedys’ Role in Helping His Father” (Washington Post)
Addressing civil rights activists in Selma, Ala., a year ago, Sen. Barack Obama traced his “very existence” to the generosity of the Kennedy family, which he said paid for his Kenyan father to travel to America on a student scholarship and thus meet his Kansan mother.

The Camelot connection has become part of the mythology surrounding Obama’s bid for the Democratic presidential nomination. […]

It is a touching story — but the key details are either untrue or grossly oversimplified.
4. “Tale of British brutality toward Barack Obama’s grandfather probably untrue, book claims” (The Telegraph)
It is a harrowing tale of torture in a colonial prison in Kenya that is said to explain the President’s coolness towards Britain and even his removal of Winston Churchill’s bust from the Oval Office.

David Maraniss, the author of Mr Obama’s most comprehensive biography so far, said five associates of Hussein Onyango Obama doubt he was even jailed. One told him: “People make up stories”. […]

… Maraniss claims that while “incidents of that sort certainly happened”, it “seems unlikely” that Mr Obama’s grandfather was one such victim. “Five people who had close connections to Hussein Onyango said they doubted the story or were certain it did not happen,” he wrote in Barack Obama – The Making of the Man.
5. The heroic story of Obama’s step-grandfather dying while fighting the Dutch is untrue (New York Times)
Mr. Maraniss attributes some of the differences to the kind of family lore that is often exaggerated. He notes that the story about the death of Mr. Obama’s step-grandfather — allegedly killed while fighting Dutch troops in Indonesia — was “a concocted myth in almost all respects.” Mr. Maraniss writes that he died trying to hang drapes.
6. “Obama Lied About Mother’s Health Insurance Problem” (Commentary)
During the 2008 campaign and throughout the subsequent debate over his health care legislation, President Obama used his mother’s experience as a cancer patient fighting to get coverage to pay for treatment for what her insurer said was a pre-existing condition as an emotional argument to sway skeptics. However, a new book by New York Times reporter Janny Scott has revealed this story appears to be a fabrication.

The Times reports today (in a story buried on page 14 rather than on the front page) that during the course of researching her book, A Singular Woman: The Untold Story of Barack Obama’s Mother, Scott uncovered correspondence showing “the 1995 dispute concerned a Cigna disability insurance policy and that her actual health insurer had apparently reimbursed most of her medical expenses without argument.” In response to inquiries, “a White House spokesman chose not to dispute either Ms. Scott’s account or Mr. Obama’s memory, while arguing that Mr. Obama’s broader point remained salient.”
7. Obama makes white Occidental College classmate “Regina” into African-American aka “composite girlfriend” (Washington Times)
“During an interview in the Oval Office, Obama acknowledged that, while Genevieve was his New York girlfriend, the description in his memoir was a ‘compression’ of girlfriends, including one who followed Genevieve [Cook] when he lived in Chicago,” Mr. Maraniss wrote in the new biography.

“In ‘Dreams from My Father,’ Obama chose to emphasize a racial chasm that unavoidably separated him from the woman he described as his New York girlfriend,” wrote the author, who interviewed the woman. “None of this happened with Genevieve. She remembered going to the theater only once with Barack, and it was not to see a work by a black playwright.”

Mr. Maraniss said the president acknowledged this scene did not happen with Ms. Cook.
8. President Obama’s “improbable love” narrative (Jack Cashill)

In all the talk about David Maraniss’ new book, “Barack Obama: The Story,” the chattering classes seem to have overlooked the most significant of Maraniss’ revelations, namely that the story on which Obama based his 2008 candidacy is “received myth, not the truth.”

“My parents shared not only an improbable love,” said Obama famously in his 2004 Democratic Convention keynote, “they shared an abiding faith in the possibilities of this nation.” This concept of multicultural romance shaped his persona and his campaigns. […]

As Maraniss concedes, these two young people shared very close to nothing. “In the college life of Barack Obama in 1961 and 1962,” writes Maraniss, “as recounted by his friends and acquaintances in Honolulu, there was no Ann; there was no baby.”

Although Maraniss talked to many of Obama Sr.’s friends, none of the credible ones ever so much as saw him with Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham.
9. Obama and his mother not “abandoned” by father in 1963 (Buzzfeed)
It’s in that context that Maraniss corrects a central element of Obama’s own biography, debunking a story that Obama’s mother may well have invented: That she and her son were abandoned in Hawaii in 1963.

“It was his mother who left Hawaii first, a year earlier than his father,” Maraniss writes, confirming a story that had first surfaced in the conservative blogosphere. He suggests that “spousal abuse” prompted her flight back to Seattle.

Obama’s own fairy-tales, meanwhile, run toward Amercan [sic] racial cliché.
At least 38 false accounts of President Obama’s life story were documented in just the Maraniss biography, as counted by Buzzfeed Editor-in-Chief Ben Smith.

Additional falsehoods have been detected in Obama’s biographies, many of them apparently designed to further a narrative of overcoming racial adversity and an underprivileged life.

That’s weird. I don’t remember reading a story in Politico with the title “OBAMA LIED ABOUT FAMILY’S MILITARY SERVICE” or “OBAMA FABRICATES SELMA STORY”.****

http://www.youngcons.com/obama-made-at-least-9-false-claims-about-his-bio-that-the-media-ignored/

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RE: Republican Debate part 3 - 11/10/2015 6:21:40 AM   
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Were you medicated during the lead up to the 2008 election????

If you want politico to give you headlines like that maybe you can email them to do you a favour.
Lets see what this article from NBC says
Welcome to the big leagues, Ben Carson (and everyone else)

After a week of intense scrutiny (on his views on the Egyptian pyramids, on whether he truly tried to stab someone, on whether he was offered a full scholarship to West Point), Ben Carson declared he had enough. "I have always said that I expect to be vetted. But being vetted and what is going on with me, 'You said this 30 years ago, you said this 20 years ago, this didn't exist, this didn't.' You know, I just, I have not seen that with anyone else," Carson told NBC's Chris Jansing. "Or if you can show me where that's happened with someone else, I will take that statement back."

Well, here's our try: We found a combined 165 New York Times and Washington Post articles that were all (or partially) about Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright between the time Obama first launched his presidential bid (Feb. 2007) and his 2008 victory (Nov. 2008).

During that same time period, we found an additional 41 New York Times and Washington Post pieces on Obama and Bill Ayers.

And from the start of her campaign (April 2015) until now, we discovered a combined 44 NYT/WaPo articles about Hillary Clinton and her email server. Our friend Chris Cillizza of the Washington Post even wrote a post entitled: "Why I've written 50 posts on Hillary Clinton's emails." Bottom line: When you're atop of the presidential polls, you're going to get scrutiny — lots of it.

Bernie Sanders wrote a piece 43 years ago on fantasy and submission, you must remember that one. remember the howls?>
How many articles do you think there are about obama and his birth certificate, his smoking pot in college, his fathers "communism...the gay hustler death?
How many pages on this forum have been about hilary and obama over benghazi/emails.
And ben carson cant handle it now?

poor baby

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RE: Republican Debate part 3 - 11/10/2015 7:17:42 AM   
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Poor little Bennie. When he's not sticking knives into his Mum, he's getting scholarships left right and centre. At least, in his own account of things. An account that seems to be more and more inflated as time goes by ...

It is just so day-um mean of those liberals and pinkos in the media to focus in on these little white lies. It's soooooo unfair. After the savage treatment handed out to Obama and Hilary, Carson is being treated with kid gloves (comparatively) and still he gets caught out and they don't. Soooo unfair!

It's obvious that he's a self aggrandising liar. The media should be digging even deeper now that we know he inflates his life story with self serving creations. It is highly important that any candidate for POTUS tells self serving lies. It tells us a lot about their character. And those who have been muck raking with Obama and the Clintons for so long over so little need to keep quiet for a change. Those people don't have any basis for complaint whatsoever.

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RE: Republican Debate part 3 - 11/10/2015 8:04:29 AM   
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Here is a list of just some of the many inaccuracies in Barack Obama’s personal bio that the media never bothered to investigate.

How could faux snooze have missed it? Isn't faux snooze suppose to be the republicrat mouthpiece? How could the articulate black guy with the big ears have conned them so deeply? Are all of the investigative reporters at faux snooze too busy snorting peroxide and felching the koch brothers that this just slipped by them for the past how many years? Why is the republicrat possie so incompetent? How could this have happened on their watch?

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RE: Republican Debate part 3 - 11/10/2015 8:41:56 AM   
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It's interesting deeply and how hard Politico dug into Carson'a story.

***Here is a list of just some of the many inaccuracies in Barack Obama’s personal bio that the media never bothered to investigate.

From IJ Review:

1. “Obama’s Staff Corrects WWII Story” (New York Times)
In response to a question at a Memorial Day appearance in New Mexico, Mr. Obama said an uncle helped liberate the Nazi death camp at Auschwitz during World War II. The problem? That story didn’t track with history, considering Auschwitz was liberated by Soviet forces.


2. Selma Birth Connection (Independent Journal)
“[W]hen the president spoke before an audience in Selma back in 2007, Obama credited the civil rights march as the inspiration for his conception. The only problem with that, as conservative punditMichelle Malkin points out, is that the president was already three years old when the march occurred in 1965.”
3. “Obama Overstates Kennedys’ Role in Helping His Father” (Washington Post)
Addressing civil rights activists in Selma, Ala., a year ago, Sen. Barack Obama traced his “very existence” to the generosity of the Kennedy family, which he said paid for his Kenyan father to travel to America on a student scholarship and thus meet his Kansan mother.



http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/saywhat.asp



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RE: Republican Debate part 3 - 11/16/2015 2:07:17 PM   
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something bill whittle (one of my very favorites) put together after ted cruz's remarks to the moderators in the cnn "debate:"

http://www.pjtv.com/s/GMZTONZV

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RE: Republican Debate part 3 - 11/18/2015 8:12:52 AM   
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Another nutsucker chokes on his felch.

Jindal out. The clown car is emptying faster than their nutsucker brains.

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RE: Republican Debate part 3 - 11/18/2015 8:20:31 AM   
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I love all the paranoia coming from the other candidates
REFUGEEEES ARE KILLERS
it would be pathetic if it werent so dickless.

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RE: Republican Debate part 3 - 11/18/2015 9:11:02 AM   
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Texas nutsucker lawmaker says he stands with the Gov against Syrian refugees because "It's too easy to get a gun in Texas".

You. can't. make. this. shit. up.

Nutsuckers are stupid, and they talk into microphones, they don't care who knows they're stupid.

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RE: Republican Debate part 3 - 11/18/2015 9:15:09 AM   
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I havent read that twats comments yet...
oh they are so bloody sad.


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RE: Republican Debate part 3 - 11/18/2015 9:52:20 AM   
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Jeb Bush has tried to seize on the Paris attacks as a key campaign issue, which is proving to be easier said than done. Yesterday, for example, the former governor became the first competitive Republican presidential hopeful to say Syrian refugees should be welcome on American soil, only to reverse course a few hours later.

Making matters considerably worse, the GOP candidate also tried to shed additional light on his idea of evaluating refugees based on the popularity of their religious beliefs. Bush continues to draw a distinction between Christian refugees (whom he wants to help) and Muslim refugees (whom he prefers to ignore), and as the New York Times reported, his defense for this posture didn’t do him any favors.
Asked how he would identify Christian Syrian families to ensure that they receive a special focus, Mr. Bush did not offer a clear answer, but said the onus would be on the refuges to demonstrate their religion.

“You’re a Christian – I mean, you can prove you’re a Christian,” he said. “You can’t prove it, then, you know, you err on the side of caution.”
I honestly have no idea what this means, though the idea of U.S. officials subjecting refugees to some kind of religious test in which they’d be asked to “prove” their Christianity isn’t unique to Jeb Bush. Rupert Murdoch, for example, raised the prospect this week of supporting refugees who are “proven Christians.” Laura Ingraham added on Monday that she’d be “happy” to welcome “some” refugees, if “we can verifiably say are Christians.”

Yes, “verifiably.”

I’m eager to hear more from the right about their proposed mechanism for a Christian test. In the meantime, however, I’m inclined to think the idea is stark raving mad and more than a little dangerous.

MSNBC’s Benjy Sarlin added yesterday that it’s “hard to imagine a better propaganda victory for ISIS” than U.S. “demanding refugees prove their Christian faith.”

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/jeb-bush-would-back-refugees-who-prove-theyre-christian?cid=sm_fb_maddow


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RE: Republican Debate part 3 - 11/18/2015 10:37:36 AM   
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something bill whittle (one of my very favorites) put together after ted cruz's remarks to the moderators in the cnn "debate:"

http://www.pjtv.com/s/GMZTONZV


Anyone with the brains god gave a duck could use google to find out who own the media in this country. Do you know who "conde naste" is what they own and who the phoque they are? Obviously not.

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RE: Republican Debate part 3 - 11/18/2015 2:57:36 PM   
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I love all the paranoia coming from the other candidates
REFUGEEEES ARE KILLERS
it would be pathetic if it werent so dickless.

Well Trump has been asking, how do we identify whether one of those 10,000 syrians allowed into the US, are ISIS trained soldiers or not?

I mean, his been asking this forever, way before France attack. And now France happened, it's verified with absolute certainty that one of them holds a Syrian passport.

I mean, if I were ISIS, this is the best way to get in. Just be a refugee. It's common sense tactic. ISIS has also establish communication techniques, like even with playstation channels, that cannot be detected by authorities. Being incognito is their road to success in any plannings.

Personally, my solution is, put all 10k of them on a lie detector test. Lots of work, but worth it to prevent an attack. They would be saving genuine people in need, and keeping out the fakes.

You know as my country are surrounded by Muslim states. If a woman wears full burka at immigration, she's not required to remove her veil, as they respect their religious right to be fully covered to such extent. So in Singapore, we did have a situation, where a Islamic Terrorist did escape by dressing in a burka to our neighbouring Muslim country. He got through as his not required to remove his veil and went through with a woman's passport.

I mean any loopholes like that, of course they will exploit.


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