quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

Just for the heck of it I called the Austrian embassy in London, embassies have all the info from the government and chambers of commerce.

Been transferred around a bit and ended with a very nice lady, oddly enough gun sales aren't up in Austria, they are aware of the propaganda and said it happens from time to time, tend to be groups with their own agenda who never bother checking with offical channels or verify their claims beyond giving a cherry picked individual who's agenda seems to mesh with theirs.

Interesting enough there was a slight increase of crime since a lot of refugees were admitted, however that increase came from militant right winged groups (neonazis) and not from the refugees.

Funny how a bit of research can clear things up, I would recommend to call the embassy or consulate to check for yourself, Austria seems to have one in every country of the world, you can also email them. They are quite forthcoming with information and don't like to have their reputation smeared by gun peddlers.

from a research methods perspective, im pretty skeptical there is a way an embassy worker in London has the answers to those questions, even taking into account your "embassies have all the info from the government and chambers of commerce."

so far it seems to me the best source are the gun merchants in Austria, cited in the report. that's really not "cherry picking"---that's going to the horse's mouth.

also, on its face, isn't it a bit naïve or absurd to think that tens of thousands of people could be "pouring" through a particular place and not have the crime rate be affected directly by them.

quote:

The streets of major cities and even small towns across the European Union (EU) are now suffering from this terrible crime...

Even though non-Europeans comprise less than 15% of the population of Germany, authorities confirm that aggravated rape on the streets is almost entirely committed by those of non-European descent. The sexual victimization of thousands of women and girls was unimaginable in pre-immigration Europe. The statistics show that the number of actual rapes has skyrocketed since the recent influx of non-European immigrants to the EU. Europeans, especially women and young girls, are increasingly fearful of rape, but according to a leading newspaper in Sweden young men as well are falling victim to rape, even gang rape, on the streets of Stockholm...

While the media diligently promotes a positive image of the illegal immigrants, painting them as innocent martyrs of bloody regimes, the head of Germany’s police labor union, Rainer Wendt, reveals the gruesome reality of immigrants’ behavior and their ongoing crimes that include raping women and children, other forms of violence, exploitation and slavery. He speaks about the presence of fanatical religious groups among the illegal immigrants that, even in camps, are already fighting for dominance and territory in the EU. Wendt says the newcomers show complete disrespect for German law and German lives.

Meanwhile, the European Commission against Racism and Intolerance now demands that police authorities in EU countries not reveal the race, ethnicity and migration background of criminal perpetrators. It also demands that no media reveal the race of perpetrators....

According to Udo Voight, head of the National Democratic Party of Germany (NPD), “The establishment is purposefully hiding the identity of massive crimes against the German people to prevent greater opposition to open borders.”...

In France, the leader of the National Front, Marine Le Pen, faces criminal prosecution for merely mentioning the facts about the relationship between these aliens and crime rates...

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata

quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

I'm a news junkie - it's on 24/7 here and this is the first I've seen of it.

Even with all the regular first-hand media reports showing and interviewing migrants and locals at border crossings (with all the riots that have also happened), there hasn't been a single hint or mention at anyone, anywhere, across the EU or Scandinavia, 'scrambling for guns'.

It's a right-wing, neonazi asshat hoax in an effort at shit-stirring and scaremongering the populace.

Austrians stocking up on weapons
http://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/chronik/Oesterreicher-decken-sich-mit-Waffen-ein/209555400

K.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata

Austrians stocking up on weapons
http://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/chronik/Oesterreicher-decken-sich-mit-Waffen-ein/209555400

somewhat typical that you did pick a rag that focuses on heating up hatred against immigrants and is about as reliable as Faux News.

Fuck you and your mind-reading act. I didn't "pick" anything (as if I had a choice). I don't speak German. I ran a search, recognized the word "oesterreich," took a stab in the dark (via Google translate) and came up with I posted.

K.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


I don't think it's a story that the Embassy would be proud to confirm. But if you like bias, it's the place to go.

K.

quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin


Austrians are arming themselves at record rates in an effort to defend their households against feared attacks from Muslim invaders.

Tens of thousands of Muslim “refugees” have poured into Austria from Hungary and Slovenia in recent months on their way to Germany and Sweden, two wealthy European countries that have laid out the welcome mat for migrants. More than a million will end up in Germany alone by the end of this year, according to estimates from the German government.

Obtaining a working firearm and ammunition in Germany, Britain, Denmark and the Netherlands is practically impossible for the average citizen. Germany, for instance, requires a psychological evaluation, the purchase of liability insurance and verifiable compliance with strict firearms storage and safety rules. And self-defense is not even a valid reason to purchase a gun in these countries.

The laws in Austria, while still strict, are a bit less overbearing.

A Czech TV report confirms that long guns – shotguns and rifles – have been flying off the shelves in Austria, and Austrians who haven’t already purchased a gun may not have a chance to get one for some time. They’re all sold out.

And those arming themselves are primarily women.


He cites the Austrian news outlet Trioler Tageszeitung as the source of his report.

“We cannot complain about lack of demand,” Stephen Mayer, a gun merchant, told Trioler Tageszeitung.


He claims the stock has been sold out for the last three weeks and that demand is being fueled by fears generated by social changes.

“People want to protect themselves,” Mayer said. “Nonetheless, the most common purchasers of arms are primarily Austrian women.”

They are also buying pepper sprays, which Mayer said are in big demand among those who can’t get a gun.

Alan Gottlieb, executive vice president of the Second Amendment Foundation, said he recently returned from a gun rights event in Europe, where he sensed a change in attitude toward firearms.

“I just returned from a gun rights meeting in Belgium, and I can attest that all over Europe people now want the means to defend themselves,” Gottlieb told WND. “Self-defense is no longer a dirty word. In countries like Austria, where it is still legal to own a firearm, gun sales are at record levels. I can tell you first-hand that people in Europe now wish they had a Second Amendment.”


Full story:

http://mobile.wnd.com/2015/10/islamic-invasion-pulls-trigger-europeans-scramble-for-guns/

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata

You don't seem willing to accept the possibility that something you don't want to hear could be true.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


I don't think it's a story that the Embassy would be proud to confirm. But if you like bias, that's the place to go. More recently, I found RT also reporting the jump in gun sales in Austria. So that makes three independent sources. Ya figure it's a "vast right-wing conspiracy"?

K.

quote:

ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

Can only speak for England, seeing as you mention Britain.

Firstly, people do own guns here. Shooting game remains a popular sport. Including among the Royal Family.

Secondly, no one here has the first clue what is happening near Austria, where it is, what it is, and who is there.

I have heard on the wireless a couple of times that some people around Hungary are being diverted to Croatia or somewhere. And, I know more than most Englishmen on this issue even though I know next to nothing.

No one here cares, mate, and you can bank on it that no one was in reaching for a gun here.