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Greta75 -> Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/3/2015 4:30:58 PM)

'Death to America' stands despite nuclear deal: Iran MPs

I still don't know why that deal was made! Making deals with people who want you dead.

A clear majority of Iranian legislators said Monday the Islamic republic will not abandon the slogan of "Death to America" despite its July nuclear accord with world powers. "The martyr-nurturing nation of Iran is not at all prepared to abandon the slogan of 'Death to America' under the pretext of a nuclear agreement," 192 members of Iran's 290-seat parliament said in a statement carried by state news agency IRNA. They said the slogan, chanted at the weekly Friday prayers in mosques and at protests, had "turned into the symbol of the Islamic republic and all struggling nations".




Lucylastic -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/3/2015 4:39:21 PM)

Your link doesnt work[;)]




Greta75 -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/3/2015 4:44:14 PM)

Thanks, fixed it.




PeonForHer -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/3/2015 6:31:13 PM)

In fairness, though, Greta, I think the majority feeling in Iran is actually the much more moderate and reasonable view of 'Death to all Americans' rather than 'Death to America'.




dcnovice -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/3/2015 8:10:17 PM)


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I still don't know why that deal was made! Making deals with people who want you dead.


"You don't make peace with friends. You make it with very unsavory enemies."
-- Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, on his decision to recognize the Palestine Liberation Organization.

"Rabin did not want to preside over another epic chapter in Jewish history where the Jews die in the end as heroes. He opted instead for the sort of gray compromise that makes life possible."
-- Israeli political theorist Yaron Ezrahi.




Greta75 -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/3/2015 8:23:20 PM)

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You don't make peace with friends. You make it with very unsavory enemies.


Making deals isn't about making peace. And anyway, clearly, no peace was made despite the deal.

I am still of the belief that it is impossible to negotiate with extremist Muslims. And I wouldn't trust them to honour their end of things.





Real0ne -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/3/2015 8:27:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

'Death to America' stands despite nuclear deal: Iran MPs

I still don't know why that deal was made! Making deals with people who want you dead.

A clear majority of Iranian legislators said Monday the Islamic republic will not abandon the slogan of "Death to America" despite its July nuclear accord with world powers. "The martyr-nurturing nation of Iran is not at all prepared to abandon the slogan of 'Death to America' under the pretext of a nuclear agreement," 192 members of Iran's 290-seat parliament said in a statement carried by state news agency IRNA. They said the slogan, chanted at the weekly Friday prayers in mosques and at protests, had "turned into the symbol of the Islamic republic and all struggling nations".




Yeh its really hard to imagine why the whole world doesnt love america isnt it?

After all we are such wonderful benevolent good guys

Arent we?




1953 Iranian coup d'état
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The 1953 Iranian coup d'état, known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup, was the overthrow of the democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran Mohammad Mosaddegh on 19 August 1953, orchestrated by the United Kingdom (under the name "Operation Boot") and the United States (under the name TPAJAX Project).[3][4][5][6]

Operation Ajax's formal leader was senior CIA officer Kermit Roosevelt, Jr., while career agent Donald Wilber was the operational leader, planner, and executor of the deposition of Mosaddegh.


CIA records

The coup was carried out by the U.S. administration of Dwight D. Eisenhower in a covert action advocated by Secretary of State John Foster Dulles, and implemented under the supervision of his brother Allen Dulles, the Director of Central Intelligence.[74] The coup was organized by the United States' CIA and the United Kingdom's MI6, two spy agencies that aided royalists and royalist elements of the Iranian army.[75] Much of the money was channeled through the pro-Shah Ayatollah Mohammad Behbahani, who drew many religious masses to the plot. Ayatollah Kashani had completely turned on Mossadegh and supported the Shah, by this point.[7]

According to a heavily redacted CIA document[76] released to the National Security Archive in response to a Freedom of Information request, "Available documents do not indicate who authorized CIA to begin planning the operation

CIA officer Kermit Roosevelt, Jr., the grandson of former President Theodore Roosevelt, carried out the operation planned by CIA agent Donald Wilber. One version of the CIA history, written by Wilber, referred to the operation as TPAJAX.[78][79]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat




Greta75 -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/3/2015 9:05:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
Yeh its really hard to imagine why the whole world doesnt love america isnt it?

After all we are such wonderful benevolent good guys

Arent we?

1953 Iranian coup d'état


Funny part is, UK was involved and only America gets blamed. You never hear them say, "Death to UK".





Real0ne -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 4:47:17 AM)

well you would find that the UK and often others from the old money aristocracy are at the bottom of everything. The UK and the USofK planned it, but the US had the boots on the ground that actually terrorized their country. Their is no functional difference between the CIA and MI5/6. Just like the coup they launched against Chavez to overthrow their government and wound up bare ass busted, only to have the local people run them out of the country.

Its in their lyrics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk

Like the melody? Not to creative when the US was invented: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN2I6vdzgts

Like microsoft, a new facelift same kernel.......LOLOLOL





mnottertail -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 7:32:47 AM)

As America refuses to remove its death to muslims.





Matilda2 -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 7:41:02 AM)

As far as this "deal" goes. Considering it is rather challanging for a layman such as I to see it's equal and balanced value I am left to wonder just what brand of "backroom" deals, a bit more beneficial on a more personal level this deal has enabled.

Sorry, it would seem the better half was utilizing my pad.

Bull...




Matilda2 -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 7:47:46 AM)

I can't get this to change over....help me...




xBullx -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 8:01:12 AM)

I think it's me now...

Sorry about the confusion, on my behalf.

No deception intended.




CreativeDominant -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 8:06:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

As America refuses to remove its death to muslims.

That chant going on a lot in your local church? Been hearing Obama say it a lot during speeches? Congress chanting it during morning coffee?




BOXMOOR74 -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 8:34:24 AM)

Life to all peaceful religions.




MariaB -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 8:35:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
Yeh its really hard to imagine why the whole world doesnt love america isnt it?

After all we are such wonderful benevolent good guys

Arent we?

1953 Iranian coup d'état


Funny part is, UK was involved and only America gets blamed. You never hear them say, "Death to UK".




Yes you do!

http://new.spectator.co.uk/2015/10/irans-hidden-war-with-the-west-and-what-we-can-do-to-fight-back/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/students-storm-british-embassy-in-iran-279641
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/199839
http://sabotagetimes.com/life/why-iranians-are-burning-the-union-jack




BOXMOOR74 -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 8:39:40 AM)

PS My ancestors founded Jamestown and New Amsterdam (New York) for all religions. I of course apologise profusely for their treatment of slaves in the South over the past 350 years plus. Thackery Bullock was my best friend he has died and his skin colour was against him all his life. But to me he was always a good person.




mnottertail -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 8:43:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

As America refuses to remove its death to muslims.

That chant going on a lot in your local church? Been hearing Obama say it a lot during speeches? Congress chanting it during morning coffee?



Oh, mostly your nutsucker sites:
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=kill%20all%20muslim%20scum





CreativeDominant -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 9:51:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

As America refuses to remove its death to muslims.

That chant going on a lot in your local church? Been hearing Obama say it a lot during speeches? Congress chanting it during morning coffee?



Oh, mostly your nutsucker sites:
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=kill%20all%20muslim%20scum

In your febrile imagination, maybe. Bare naked Islam and it's ilk are far, FAR rightwing crazies.

Certainly not representative of Congress...but they are similar to Iran's legislature in their hatred.




mnottertail -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 10:11:06 AM)

yeah, you are right, the far righting crazies in the US congress are far more devastating to the nation.




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