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RE: Are you a slave are a submissive? - 12/5/2015 6:33:18 AM

experiment2

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i have read that in Biblical times individuals could sell themselves into slavery in return for money or gits for their family to survive. so perhaps voluntary slavery is not so far fetched.

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RE: Are you a slave are a submissive? - 12/5/2015 12:28:53 PM

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i have read that in Biblical times individuals could sell themselves into slavery in return for money or gits for their family to survive. so perhaps voluntary slavery is not so far fetched.

Doing something to survive is not voluntary. If man holds a gun to my head and says "if you don't blow me, you're dead". The blow job is not voluntary.

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RE: Are you a slave are a submissive? - 12/6/2015 4:25:36 PM

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I'm a bedroom bottom that is into some kink & a specific fetish.
Here's the thing though - the more I like the person I'm with, the more compliant I'm outside the bedroom. I may even do what I'm told!

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RE: Are you a slave are a submissive? - 12/7/2015 7:08:39 PM

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im the one that likes to be tied up beatedn and to please my owner as much as I can so call it what you like I enjoy it

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RE: Are you a slave are a submissive? - 12/14/2015 12:41:57 PM

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First off i have not seen anyone explane the difference between the two and YES there is a difference and big one.

A sub has say to what the Dom/me can do and how to do it, like using safe words given to the Dominant by the sub. The Dom/me has some control but not total control over the sub, the sub still make everyday decisions on their own.

A slave on the other hand has NO say what so ever. They give complete control to their Mistress or Master in trusting them with their life and will being. A slave must and will do what ever their Mistress or Master tell them to and never ask questions about it, they give up all rights to their body and life.

That is the short form of explaining the difference between the two.

i am a slave and live to give control of my self to my Mistress. my pleasure comes from pleaseing my Mistress.

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RE: Are you a slave are a submissive? - 12/14/2015 1:13:14 PM

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A sub has say to what the Dom/me can do and how to do it, like using safe words given to the Dominant by the sub. The Dom/me has some control but not total control over the sub, the sub still make everyday decisions on their own.

Bullshit. I'm in a long term, 24/7 TPE relationship with M. He has control and I'm a submissive.

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A slave on the other hand has NO say what so ever. They give complete control to their Mistress or Master in trusting them with their life and will being. A slave must and will do what ever their Mistress or Master tell them to and never ask questions about it, they give up all rights to their body and life.

Bullshit again. There is no possible way to control every decision made by a person on a daily basis. Next, no "must and will do what ever their Mistress or Master". There are times when lines must be drawn and just because you call yourself a slave doesn't mean that you'll do anything.

Your description of what each is, is one of the primary reasons submissives fall prey to predators - because they believe drivel like yours that says that Dominants are omnipotent and that the S type has no choices. People like you make this community dangerous.

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RE: Are you a slave are a submissive? - 12/14/2015 1:40:34 PM

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ORIGINAL: olslutslave4mist

First off i have not seen anyone explane the difference between the two and YES there is a difference and big one.

A sub has say to what the Dom/me can do and how to do it, like using safe words given to the Dominant by the sub. The Dom/me has some control but not total control over the sub, the sub still make everyday decisions on their own.

A slave on the other hand has NO say what so ever. They give complete control to their Mistress or Master in trusting them with their life and will being. A slave must and will do what ever their Mistress or Master tell them to and never ask questions about it, they give up all rights to their body and life.

That is the short form of explaining the difference between the two.

i am a slave and live to give control of my self to my Mistress. my pleasure comes from pleaseing my Mistress.

Like Oside, I don't agree with your definitions of sub and slave either.

To me, there is virtually no difference between the boundaries of either /s type and there is also virtually no difference in behaviour or expectations.
The D is always responsible for the safety, health, and well-being of their /s, regardless.
In my books, the only difference is when the permission is given.
For me, a sub gives permission for a period of time; a scene, a day, weekend etc, and needs to give permission every single time the dynamic is being enacted.
A slave gives permission once, right at the beginning of the relationship and doesn't need to be asked again unless something new is involved in the dynamic.
Beyond the timing of requesting/receiving permission(s), there isn't a whole lot of difference between a sub and a slave.
YMMV.

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RE: Are you a slave are a submissive? - 12/14/2015 3:02:59 PM

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A slave gives permission once, right at the beginning of the relationship and doesn't need to be asked again unless something new is involved in the dynamic.

This is the way our dynamic works, but I don't identify as a slave.

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RE: Are you a slave are a submissive? - 12/14/2015 3:20:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: olslutslave4mist

First off i have not seen anyone explane the difference between the two and YES there is a difference and big one.

A sub has say to what the Dom/me can do and how to do it, like using safe words given to the Dominant by the sub. The Dom/me has some control but not total control over the sub, the sub still make everyday decisions on their own.

A slave on the other hand has NO say what so ever. They give complete control to their Mistress or Master in trusting them with their life and will being. A slave must and will do what ever their Mistress or Master tell them to and never ask questions about it, they give up all rights to their body and life.
That is the short form of explaining the difference between the two.

i am a slave and live to give control of my self to my Mistress. my pleasure comes from pleaseing my Mistress.

Isn't that special.

You have a say. You can say no and leave any time you want. Using your own definition, you're not a slave.

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RE: Are you a slave are a submissive? - 12/24/2015 11:18:02 AM

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"A slave in the truest sense is property. It can be treated and used in any way by it's owner."

Correct. How many slave owners have been killed by their so-called "property."?

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