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I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their... - 11/19/2015 3:59:40 PM   
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This isn't a question, but a rumination on what I read in the news about the amount that some people PAY for sex ... where your observations are requested based on the fact that some people seem to pay through the nose simply to satisfy their basic sexual needs.

Everyone who reads the news knows of plenty of people whose lives were ruined by illicit sex, but, what also amazes me is that some (admittedly wealthy) people pay a huge amount for normal "vanilla" sex (into which, I'll also include a prostitution transaction).

For example, just now, in the news, it's reported that, wholly aside from the illegal underage crimes for which he's going to prison for over 15 years, Jared Fogle "admitted to paying a minimum of about $12,000 a year for sex".

Also in today's news, Charlie Sheen has said, off camera, that sex has cost him up to 10 million dollars just to keep quiet multiple women he told about his undetectable but still existent HIV, so that he could have sex with them.

Lamar Odom's credit card was billed over $25,000 per day for an extended 3-day stay at a Nevada brothel.

And this is only the relatively recent news.

What amazes me is that the COST for mere sex is essentially astronomical, which, must mean, by looking at the other side of the equation, that the VALUE is correspondingly high. Yet, I find that hard to believe.

Is sex really that hard to come by that some people spend thousands to millions, per sex act?


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RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy t... - 11/19/2015 4:05:53 PM   
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Is sex really that hard to come by that some people spend thousands to millions, per sex act?

No, but what is hard to come by is someone that will just show up when you want it, not say "no" and will go home and never contact you again. It's not the sex, it's convenience.


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RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy t... - 11/19/2015 4:18:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's probably relative, no? I'll spend a good few dollars on something sexy to wear, or maybe I'll buy some alcohol to liquor him up into having my way with him, and though these things are an expense, they don't drain my bank. These people that you mention have more money that the average person, yes? So, is their cost really all that astronomical? (Leaving aside the wisdom or lack of in their choices.)

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RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy t... - 11/19/2015 4:29:26 PM   
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It's probably relative, no? I'll spend a good few dollars on something sexy to wear, or maybe I'll buy some alcohol to liquor him up into having my way with him, and though these things are an expense, they don't drain my bank. These people that you mention have more money that the average person, yes? So, is their cost really all that astronomical? (Leaving aside the wisdom or lack of in their choices.)


I'm sure there is a huge element of supply and demand, where the people we hear about in the news have a large supply of money, e.g., Eliot Spitzer paid up to $80,000 to prostitutes over a period of several years while he was Attorney General of NY, where he was paying an average of $1,000/hour (generally for two to four hours) with call girls.

However, we must agree that we're only hearing the ones that make the news, who, by their newsworthiness, are often wealthy.

One might assume that if the rich and famous are paying through the nose for sex, that, then, relatively speaking, the poor and nondescript are perhaps also doing so.

But that's why I ruminate here ... to see if that's indeed the case, or if it's not.

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RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy t... - 11/19/2015 4:38:21 PM   
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It's not the sex, it's convenience.


This is a very fair observation.

It seems that, for example, Hugh Grant, Tiger Woods, Jimmy Swaggart, Barney Frank, Donald Sterling, Vince Offer, Boy George, Jerry Springer, Eddie Murphy, Ted Haggard, Danny Bonaduce, D’Angelo, Wayne Rooney, Silvio Berlusconi, the Minnesota Vikings, the Secret Service, etc., all *could* have gotten pure "sex" from, for example, their then current wives and girlfriends, yet, they paid for it (and boy, they paid dearly).

Do they all pay so handsomely merely for the convenience?

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RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy t... - 11/19/2015 4:56:48 PM   
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RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy t... - 11/19/2015 5:12:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Credit where it's due. This is much more interesting than I thought it was going to be. Well done.

I tend to think some of this is convenience, silence, etc. Didn't Sheen actually joke about it in interviews? He wasn't paying for the sex. He was paying them to go away.

Jerod Foggle is the one that I think is different. I greatly suspect that him paying for the (adult) women had something more to do with the fact that he *did* have his struggles with periods of his life that he wasn't seen as sexually desirable. For a very long period of time there, he was kind of the bottom of the barrel as far as what women would see as physically attractive, so even after he lost the weight, that stuck with him. Yes. Even after he landed an attractive wife, was financially secure, and should have had reason for his ego to have a serious confidence boost.

Is it possible that some people are so impacted by not being wanted that the only way they feel people *want* to be with them is that they try to buy the affections/sexual gratification from others? Absolutely.


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RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy t... - 11/19/2015 7:02:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think for the examples you set forth it is a matter of sex with no commitments. Those for hire are not going to come back at them and demand extra benefits. It is what it is, convenience. As far as Jared Fogel, ewww... I'll bet even his wife charged him for it.

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RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy t... - 11/19/2015 7:47:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is a saying that men want sex and women want love and men give love to get sex and women give sex to get love. Taking the Jared Fogle example a lot of men find it easier to pay but the ones with out money then don't get sex.

I see women in relationships with less attractive men, staying in relationships with men who hurt them or for other reasons. I haven't been in that many relationships with women and chalk it up to not having or being willing to blow my money on fakes.

I guess if you classify things like someone did there are a lot of people here who are at the bottom of the barrel or if you don't have a partner you are maybe it is true and maybe most people are at the bottom of the barrel. Years ago I thought the internet would make it easier to find someone but it hasn't worked out that way. You have to be looking at the same time for the same type of person and be able to travel to them. I don't feel long distance works so Internet hasn't really linked up too many people who don't live close to each other.

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RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy t... - 11/19/2015 8:13:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Charlie Sheen says, his paying the woman to leave after he fucks her. So that's what his paying for.

Many rich people love paying for sex, money means nothing to them, and they just want it exactly the way they like it, without having the whole work of cajoling the woman into it.

If you want free sex with a woman, unless you are already adonis, usually alot of efforts and work is involve in getting one, and sometimes it can be drag to deal with the women emotional entanglement after and all that drama. So why bother if money can solve all that problem?

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RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy t... - 11/19/2015 8:24:32 PM   
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RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy t... - 11/19/2015 10:11:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		I guess another thing about the question is that the actors and sports guys I would have thought wouldn't have to pay but they do, so is it the type of woman or them.

I guess I should pay because I am not good a cajoling but I think its bad karma to pay for sex.

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RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy t... - 11/19/2015 10:17:36 PM   
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I guess another thing about the question is that the actors and sports guys I would have thought wouldn't have to pay but they do, so is it the type of woman or them.

I guess I should pay because I am not good a cajoling but I think its bad karma to pay for sex.



The few "famous" people I know that have admitted to using prostitutes tell me that they're not paying for sex; they're paying for the woman to go away, afterwards.



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RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy t... - 11/19/2015 11:48:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I live near the brothels here in nv and I know some of the workers they tell me of the amazing lack of knowledge of sex and how to do it. the cost is negotiated with the workers who have to pay for the space they occupy in the brothel. the house gets a cut of course so the more they can get out of a client the better someone with lots of money will get a highball number where the more local regulars pay less at each visit but visit more often and prefer a specific worker. our houses now have men on the menu for those wanting them, they are referred to as prosti -dudes and serve all cummers. dennis hoff owner of several houses offers to pay the college loans of workers as a benefit of employment.

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RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy t... - 11/20/2015 12:04:38 AM   
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I guess I should pay because I am not good a cajoling but I think its bad karma to pay for sex.


I don't think there is anything wrong in paying for sex. I am willing to pay for sex when I am too old to get men to fuck me ha! Well, I will pay for sex when I reach that stage. At the moment by benefit of being female, we got it a little easier to get sex. It's as easy as who wants to fuck tonight? Someone will say yes.

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RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy t... - 11/20/2015 12:22:28 AM   
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I guess I should pay because I am not good a cajoling but I think its bad karma to pay for sex.


I don't think there is anything wrong in paying for sex. I am willing to pay for sex when I am too old to get men to fuck me ha! Well, I will pay for sex when I reach that stage. At the moment by benefit of being female, we got it a little easier to get sex. It's as easy as who wants to fuck tonight? Someone will say yes.


I'm in my 60s and have no problem finding men of all ages. Have yet to shell out any money!

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RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy t... - 11/20/2015 1:18:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are restaurants where dinner for a group of people would put a significant dent in your pocketbook. Why do people go there when McDonald's is an option? Conversely, there are streetwalkers who would not put that much of a dent in your pocketbook.

Sex workers sell a fantasy of desirability at least as much as they sell warm holes. It shouldn't be surprising that the high end of the market costs ridiculous amounts of money - the high ends of most markets cost ridiculous amounts of money. And compulsive users of anything can also spend a lot of money over time. Prostitution isn't that different from any other service.

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RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy t... - 11/20/2015 6:13:42 AM   
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I'm in my 60s and have no problem finding men of all ages. Have yet to shell out any money!

Good to know!! :)

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RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy t... - 11/20/2015 9:46:55 AM   
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There are restaurants where dinner for a group of people would put a significant dent in your pocketbook. Why do people go there when McDonald's is an option? Conversely, there are streetwalkers who would not put that much of a dent in your pocketbook.

Sex workers sell a fantasy of desirability at least as much as they sell warm holes. It shouldn't be surprising that the high end of the market costs ridiculous amounts of money - the high ends of most markets cost ridiculous amounts of money. And compulsive users of anything can also spend a lot of money over time. Prostitution isn't that different from any other service.

Is that a fair analogy though? I mean, McD is pretty much the bottom of the barrel food-wise. A big mac certainly isn't the same as filet mignon. Not to mention, I'd have to think that folks who can spend more would want, shall we say, more of a fine dining experience, rather than a booth where every common man has parked his butt before, with other people's special sauce still sticking on the seat.


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RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy t... - 11/20/2015 10:37:29 AM   
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folks who can spend more would want, shall we say, more of a fine dining experience, rather than a booth where every common man has parked his butt before, with other people's special sauce still sticking on the seat.


This is another fair observation, in that someone paying $1,000/hour, presumably gets a woman who, um, doesn't have the commoner's sauces still sticking to her seat.
(Presumably, any woman able to command that price, doesn't stoop to the paltry level of the $100/hour range, and therefore, by deduction, "is cleaner" or "classier" or at least "better" in some way.)

As an aside, I remember being surprised, when the Ellot Spitzer conversations were reported, that the madam mentioned to the hooker that he would try to talk her into the GFE, whereas the hooker herself confidantly reported back to the madam that she'd be able to hold him off on that request.

So, even for four thousand bucks (he was there four hours), he still doesn't even get what every guy gets from his own girlfriend every day.

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