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RE: So . . . what do we do about C? - 12/10/2015 5:09:40 PM   
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RE: So . . . what do we do about C? - 12/11/2015 12:32:47 AM   
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You are correct DS.......... Sorry


No problem. Thanks for the apology; I know it had to hurt. lol




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RE: So . . . what do we do about C? - 12/11/2015 12:47:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		In reply to DesideriScuri "When was the last time a "Christian" country attacked another country over religious reasons?"

It depends who we ask. If we asked Muslims in the Middle East...Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria, I'm sure a majority would call these wars 'Christians against Muslims'. Whilst the West may brush this off as nonsense, these wars will be noted, at least in half the worlds history books, as Christian wars.

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RE: So . . . what do we do about Daesh? - 12/11/2015 10:11:29 AM   
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Besides, the further they got into Europe the more the tables turned, see Tours.

Twenty five or so years to the first loss???? 700 or so years to actually turn the tables???

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RE: So . . . what do we do about C? - 12/12/2015 11:55:20 AM   
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In reply to DesideriScuri "When was the last time a "Christian" country attacked another country over religious reasons?"
It depends who we ask. If we asked Muslims in the Middle East...Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria, I'm sure a majority would call these wars 'Christians against Muslims'. Whilst the West may brush this off as nonsense, these wars will be noted, at least in half the worlds history books, as Christian wars.


The US isn't a "Christian" nation, and we didn't attack over religious reasons.


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RE: So . . . what do we do about C? - 12/12/2015 3:18:51 PM   
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The US isn't a "Christian" nation, and we didn't attack over religious reasons.

What would you call the effort to exterminate the native americans?

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RE: So . . . what do we do about C? - 12/12/2015 3:25:12 PM   
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RE: So . . . what do we do about C? - 12/12/2015 6:54:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would call the effort to exterminate the American Indians, greed on the white mans part more than a religious war. america was following it's so-called 'manifest destiny' wasn't it ? Which seemed to mean that anything anybody else had that proved to be worth anything, automatically belonged to the white americans ?? Beginning with their ancestral lands and working outward from there.


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RE: So . . . what do we do about C? - 12/12/2015 7:24:38 PM   
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I would call the effort to exterminate the American Indians, greed on the white mans part more than a religious war. america was following it's so-called 'manifest destiny' wasn't it ? Which seemed to mean that anything anybody else had that proved to be worth anything, automatically belonged to the white americans ?? Beginning with their ancestral lands and working outward from there.


Between the US and the Pacific.

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RE: So . . . what do we do about C? - 12/12/2015 7:35:50 PM   
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RE: So . . . what do we do about C? - 12/13/2015 4:22:29 AM   
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I would call the effort to exterminate the American Indians, greed on the white mans part more than a religious war. america was following it's so-called 'manifest destiny' wasn't it ? Which seemed to mean that anything anybody else had that proved to be worth anything, automatically belonged to the white americans ?? Beginning with their ancestral lands and working outward from there.



Actually it was the Europeans who came over and started exterminating them to colonize the new land. This wasn't america until after they had gotten a good foothold here and decided to call it that. Now after that we certainly carried on the tradition, but we didn't start it. Funny that no one ever mentions that part. But I totally agree that a lot of it was down to greed.

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RE: So . . . what do we do about C? - 12/13/2015 4:29:44 AM   
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I would call the effort to exterminate the American Indians, greed on the white mans part more than a religious war.


That would indicate your manifest ignorance of the subject at hand. A little critical reading on the subject could easily disabuse you of your ignorance.

america was following it's so-called 'manifest destiny' wasn't it ?


I could not agree more that we should always keep an eye on the benjamines as the root cause. That,though, was never pimped as the reason for the policy of extermination. The reason pimped by every president from george washington to teddy roosevelt was "the only good indian was a dead one because they were heathen pagans.



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RE: So . . . what do we do about C? - 12/13/2015 4:31:19 AM   
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RE: So . . . what do we do about C? - 12/13/2015 5:34:56 AM   
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you mean native americans didnt die by the tens of thousands after 1776?


No, after that, it became America and everybody was nice to each other for ever more.

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RE: So . . . what do we do about C? - 12/13/2015 7:13:41 AM   
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you mean native americans didnt die by the tens of thousands after 1776?


No, after that, it became America and everybody was nice to each other for ever more.

Apparently we have another case of not reading her entire post.

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RE: So . . . what do we do about C? - 12/13/2015 7:39:49 AM   
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you mean native americans didnt die by the tens of thousands after 1776?


No, after that, it became America and everybody was nice to each other for ever more.

Apparently we have another case of not reading her entire post.


no its simply asking
Apparently you make a job of misreading posts.

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RE: So . . . what do we do about C? - 12/13/2015 12:30:41 PM   
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Actually it was the Europeans who came over and started exterminating them to colonize the new land. This wasn't america until after they had gotten a good foothold here and decided to call it that. Now after that we certainly carried on the tradition, but we didn't start it. Funny that no one ever mentions that part. But I totally agree that a lot of it was down to greed.

So according to you the folks who took charge in 1783 were in no way related to those who preceeded them?

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RE: So . . . what do we do about C? - 12/13/2015 4:27:15 PM   
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I would call the effort to exterminate the American Indians, greed on the white mans part more than a religious war. america was following it's so-called 'manifest destiny' wasn't it ? Which seemed to mean that anything anybody else had that proved to be worth anything, automatically belonged to the white americans ?? Beginning with their ancestral lands and working outward from there.



Actually it was the Europeans who came over and started exterminating them to colonize the new land. This wasn't america until after they had gotten a good foothold here and decided to call it that. Now after that we certainly carried on the tradition, but we didn't start it. Funny that no one ever mentions that part. But I totally agree that a lot of it was down to greed.


Your geography is as good as your history........ its shit.

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RE: So . . . what do we do about C? - 12/14/2015 2:27:17 AM   
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you mean native americans didnt die by the tens of thousands after 1776?


If that's what I meant, that's what I would have said. But I didn't so as usual you are wrong.

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RE: So . . . what do we do about C? - 12/14/2015 2:30:28 AM   
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edited cos I edited the wrong post. derp, time for bed.


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