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RE: Question about some people seeking... - 12/1/2015 12:10:30 PM

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Like most things, pets, kids, slaves, the idea of them are great, the reality is very different.

Which is why the relationship mortality rate is so high in this community. People get so caught up in the fantasy that they end up with wildly unrealistic expectations of what and how the relationship will function.

I've seen so much fluffy drivel over the years (I was so glad when Castlerealm died) and I've watched people that go from relationship to relationship never grasping why they're failing.

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RE: Question about some people seeking... - 12/1/2015 1:01:53 PM

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Asking somebody to go on benefits for the pleasure of being a slave doesn't seem to be such a good plan, that person would have to give up a job and if they willingly give up the job, I don't think they are entitled to claim for a certain amount of time, and while they are on benefits, they couldn't pay into a pension scheme or anything (just thinking about the future).

Then a lot of dental care isn't covered, imagine if somebody needs a root canal and a crown, the covered option is to pull the tooth, maybe I'm a bit fussy about teeth but it would just freak me out to have to part with a tooth. Just completely normal stuff such as regular polish and cleaning of the teeth isn't covered. I used to be registered with an NHS dentist and had a slight tooth ache, he seriously recommended pulling the tooth and explained that doing a root canal isn't worth his time, he won't get paid much more or be able to bill me much more, according to some bands, the root canal takes longer and there is a bigger risk of something going wrong and him being sued. My jaw dropped so much, it almost unhooked itself, I went to a private dentist and it was not even an option to pull the tooth. For a woman losing a tooth or the idea of it, it's traumatic.

What if somebody has a food intolerance? Anybody who needs to live glutenfree will have easily almost twice the food bill, unless your blood test shows exactly the type of antibody the test recognizes, you're out of luck with the NHS vouchers, yet they do know that the test only reacts to one specific type and then more often shows a false negative. I often wonder how families with kids manage if the kids have an intolerance and it's a one income family.

We're only 2 people, hubby on occasion eats meat, I'm a vegetarian, we don't eat fast food or processed food (we're both self-employed so looking after our health as best as we can is pretty much important as we wouldn't get sick leave), I tend to check the supermarkets at around 7 or 8 when they reduce stuff and we're not having filet steaks, oysters and such, the main luxuries are possibly good vinegars, virgin olive oil, organic unrefined coconut oil, we don't drink sodas, I have 2 proper cups of coffee a day (beans I grind myself), hubby likes his tea, I drink a lot of peppermint tea (between £1 and £2 for 20 bags), my main indulgence is fresh fruit, his cheese, we spent about £150 and £200 every week on food, we had friends living with us when they were going through a divorce or simply rough times, our food bills climbed.

Let's assume for a moment I'm a sub looking for a master, let's assume I have a typical female job, let's say secretary, between £20 and £40K a year depending on qualifications, I have no idea how much benefits would be, never been on them, but I don't think it's anywhere as generous as Osborne claims (I didn't vote for him but he is my MP - eugh). So if she'd give up her job to be your live in sub, she would get blocked from job seekers allowance and the rest for a period of time, I don't think there are many women willing to do that and really mess up their future.

However I can see that if you're living off benefits and you add another person who's already on benefits to the "family" (or however you want to call it) that it might raise the income of everybody as there would be less costs like heating, rent, etc. But I don't think I'm unrealistic to think that there aren't a lot of women willing to give up careers to enter that agreement with you. Just simple logistics.

Btw if she wouldn't have to be in the house all the time and play "gimp" as you said, where's the problem if she continues her career? I think she could contribute more and would also have more security, you know just in case the arrangement doesn't work out.

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RE: Question about some people seeking... - 12/1/2015 1:11:27 PM

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Lot's of >snip<

In my opinion, it is the person who moves that takes the risk. There are no guarantees. Just because we put fancy labels on these things doesn't mean that there aren't situations that don't work out and people need to be practical about that.

The move is my way... they are coming here and that is why I am very open about ALL. I wouldn't ever want to "knowingly" board the Titanic and I'd rather not take on any passengers that can/will/might sink my ship. They know what they are signing up for and any illusions/delusions/ or thoughts of changing the way this ship sails is on them when they are kicked to the curb. It is wot it is, no hidden agenda, straight up, if you're not 100% on board for what it is, don't inbox me EVER.

Now, that said, if I were going to move their way... it's their ship, I'd be under their sail, so I'd make damn sure it's a ship I could board and stay aboard before I ever considered making a move. Yep, I'm the D, but if I am joining their life I have no authority to change it, because it's obviously working in a way that I want it to anyway.

Jus sayin

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RE: Question about some people seeking... - 12/1/2015 1:14:54 PM

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I have never known any in my lifetime. You’re looking at an almost nonexistent amount of people who actually have them v the ratio-number of people allegedly seeking them.

I don’t understand it either. But whence I am bored, and have come across too many bad stereotype profiles, I have been known to write blogs (no adverts). Seeking big breasted latex clad nymph to clean my manky hovel etc rates of pay £0pa and thrashings with pots and pans and the kitchen sink. In summer time I mellow and write grass chomper wanted. Obviously these are the short abridged versions.

Not one taker albeit people peed their pantaloons at the full versions.

Having someone in the house 24/7 even for a week or two is a massive undertaken for anyone.

Oh I forgot I am housebound how do the cats x 3 tolerate me and my rambles 24/7

I knew people who look for a third - or to add a 3rd as an occasionally rare treat _ I understand that.

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RE: Question about some people seeking... - 12/1/2015 1:17:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
But I don't think I'm unrealistic to think that there aren't a lot of women willing to give up careers to enter that agreement with you. Just simple logistics.

I've never understood a man that would expect me stop earning an income. In SoCal, living on one income would mean that the one person has a pretty hefty income (our median house price is $450k in San Diego) and quite frankly, I like having disposable income.

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RE: Question about some people seeking... - 12/1/2015 1:26:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
But I don't think I'm unrealistic to think that there aren't a lot of women willing to give up careers to enter that agreement with you. Just simple logistics.

I've never understood a man that would expect me stop earning an income. In SoCal, living on one income would mean that the one person has a pretty hefty income (our median house price is $450k in San Diego) and quite frankly, I like having disposable income.

I had a brief period of unemployment due to a stalker, I just can't imagine being without work, that time was just the worst ever, we could basically cover the mortgage even if one of us would stop working, but it's nice to know that we don't have to and there is that added security buffer, you know "just in case", I'm not overly materialistic but I do like to having to worry about how the bills are going to be paid.

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RE: Question about some people seeking... - 12/1/2015 1:33:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
Asking somebody to go on benefits for the pleasure of being a slave doesn't seem to be such a good plan, that person would have to give up a job and if they willingly give up the job, I don't think they are entitled to claim for a certain amount of time, and while they are on benefits, they couldn't pay into a pension scheme or anything (just thinking about the future).

Most of the /s's I've spoken to over here don't have a job so it's just a case of moving their claim to a different address.
Pensions are provided by the state.
In fact, pensioners only get £10pw ($15) less than I get to run this whole house with my OH.
Plus, they get free TV licenses, free bus passes, an extra £200pa extra xmas bonuses that I don't get!

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
Then a lot of dental care isn't covered, imagine if somebody needs a root canal and a crown, the covered option is to pull the tooth, maybe I'm a bit fussy about teeth but it would just freak me out to have to part with a tooth.

My family are with an NHS dentist - everything covered for most dental work.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
Just completely normal stuff such as regular polish and cleaning of the teeth isn't covered. I used to be registered with an NHS dentist and had a slight tooth ache, he seriously recommended pulling the tooth and explained that doing a root canal isn't worth his time, he won't get paid much more or be able to bill me much more, according to some bands, the root canal takes longer and there is a bigger risk of something going wrong and him being sued. My jaw dropped so much, it almost unhooked itself, I went to a private dentist and it was not even an option to pull the tooth. For a woman losing a tooth or the idea of it, it's traumatic.

I quite agree.
But like with your other post, where you were must have had some pretty shit NHS people because I don't see your problems that you suffered happening here nor anywhere else I've lived in the UK.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
What if somebody has a food intolerance? Anybody who needs to live glutenfree will have easily almost twice the food bill, unless your blood test shows exactly the type of antibody the test recognizes, you're out of luck with the NHS vouchers, yet they do know that the test only reacts to one specific type and then more often shows a false negative. I often wonder how families with kids manage if the kids have an intolerance and it's a one income family.

NHS vouchers?? Never seen anything like that wherever I've been.
A simple gluten test done at the GP's office will show a gluten or other food intolerance.
It takes all of 10 minutes and is usually done by the resident nurse.

And there are many gluten-free and various other 'free-from' foods available at our local supermarkets.
Most that I've seen on the shelves are literally only pennies more expensive than the usual brands.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
We're only 2 people, hubby on occasion eats meat, I'm a vegetarian, we don't eat fast food or processed food (we're both self-employed so looking after our health as best as we can is pretty much important as we wouldn't get sick leave), I tend to check the supermarkets at around 7 or 8 when they reduce stuff and we're not having filet steaks, oysters and such, the main luxuries are possibly good vinegars, virgin olive oil, organic unrefined coconut oil, we don't drink sodas, I have 2 proper cups of coffee a day (beans I grind myself), hubby likes his tea, I drink a lot of peppermint tea (between £1 and £2 for 20 bags), my main indulgence is fresh fruit, his cheese, we spent about £150 and £200 every week on food, we had friends living with us when they were going through a divorce or simply rough times, our food bills climbed.

Peppermint tea: £1.50 from ASDA for 80 bags.
And our shopping bill for 5 of us here comes to around £50-£70 a week at most.
And we don't do processed foods much - always cook everything from scratch.

We've had people stay here and our food bill barely changes.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
Let's assume for a moment I'm a sub looking for a master, let's assume I have a typical female job, let's say secretary, between £20 and £40K a year depending on qualifications, I have no idea how much benefits would be, never been on them, but I don't think it's anywhere as generous as Osborne claims (I didn't vote for him but he is my MP - eugh). So if she'd give up her job to be your live in sub, she would get blocked from job seekers allowance and the rest for a period of time, I don't think there are many women willing to do that and really mess up their future.

Well... we've had a few subs do just that.
Switch their claim to the new office and they get their benefits back-dated and back on track in about 2 weeks.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
However I can see that if you're living off benefits and you add another person who's already on benefits to the "family" (or however you want to call it) that it might raise the income of everybody as there would be less costs like heating, rent, etc. But I don't think I'm unrealistic to think that there aren't a lot of women willing to give up careers to enter that agreement with you. Just simple logistics.

We've had a few that really didn't want to work and wanted to give up working.
If they are a career-minded person, I can see that they might not want to give it all up.
But in our experience, the vast majority aren't in that class.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
Btw if she wouldn't have to be in the house all the time and play "gimp" as you said, where's the problem if she continues her career? I think she could contribute more and would also have more security, you know just in case the arrangement doesn't work out.

I specifically said I wouldn't have a gimp or someone chained up all day as I don't see any benefits in having that type of person.
But.... the whole reason for having a full-time /s (like many people), is so they are there for the things we want/need and for most D's that would be during waking hours.
So having someone away from the house during whatever hours they work is somewhat defeating the object of having them available and on-tap when needed isn't it?
If they can work from home, all the better; but there aren't many jobs like that around here.

The person we would seek would be a proper, fully-integrated, 3rd wheel.
That means being housemaid, chauffeur (if they drive), shopping assistant, companion, gardener, yada yada yada as well as a FWB on-tap.

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RE: Question about some people seeking... - 12/1/2015 1:37:30 PM

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The move is my way... they are coming here and that is why I am very open about ALL. I wouldn't ever want to "knowingly" board the Titanic and I'd rather not take on any passengers that can/will/might sink my ship. They know what they are signing up for and any illusions/delusions/ or thoughts of changing the way this ship sails is on them when they are kicked to the curb. It is wot it is, no hidden agenda, straight up, if you're not 100% on board for what it is, don't inbox me EVER.

Now, that said, if I were going to move their way... it's their ship, I'd be under their sail, so I'd make damn sure it's a ship I could board and stay aboard before I ever considered making a move. Yep, I'm the D, but if I am joining their life I have no authority to change it, because it's obviously working in a way that I want it to anyway.

Jus sayin

First, I want to touch back on something you said earlier in the thread. It relates to the other side of this thing. That being, the other side of this happens as well. There are both male as well as female s-types that are looking for the opportunity to park their tail in your house, have you support them, and really don't bring a whole heck of a lot of value. I don't think you're going to give me much of an argument there.

Your first paragraph here, you know that we think alike on this matter, even though we have different poly styles. No s-type is coming into this house and think they have any influence on my marriage, household, or any other thing, and if they try to be manipulative about it, they are going to lose fast.

Your second paragraph, where you talk of the scenario of you moving to them, you are putting yourself in the position of, if it doesn't work, you are the one who moves out, travels if necessary, might have to make arrangements for your next accommodations, or whatever it takes to go to the next stage in your life. No matter how you slice it, you know that is one of the possibilities going in, even if that is not your intended goal.

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RE: Question about some people seeking... - 12/1/2015 2:02:27 PM

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I won't so I am at an advantage. I do have resources, so me having to bail is just me going back to one home or the other... but that is the big reason I have a working household and insist that their money goes into savings until they have enough money to buy a ticket to their people. I do not enter into a relationship expecting failure, but I do consider (especially after all the people I've buried recently) that shit happens and I do not want to scramble to get them home.

So I'll happily absorb living expenses until that account is sufficient, then the income after will go where it needs to.

If I were presented with the "possibility" of a good relationship w/o my safety nets in place, I'd pass on it. Sometimes it's just better to miss an opportunity than it is to invite disaster.

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RE: Question about some people seeking... - 12/1/2015 2:05:26 PM

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ET!!
Specially that last sentence.
Too many live in fantasy-land and just don't think.

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RE: Question about some people seeking... - 12/1/2015 2:09:47 PM

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Thanks FD. My happiness is not for sale, rent, or surrender... I'm happy all by myself, happier in a functional relationship, but I'd rather be alone than lose my happy.

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RE: Question about some people seeking... - 12/1/2015 2:13:33 PM

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I'm of similar mind.
Fortunately for me, I have a really wonderful partner and by sheer quirk of fate I got my kids back 7 years ago.
So I'm a real happy bunny right now.
And like you - it ain't for sale, rent or loan.

Right now.... I love life

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RE: Question about some people seeking... - 12/1/2015 2:15:40 PM

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I'm absolutely in love with life. Finding someone that has the some torrid love affair going on with life has been a challenge.

Congratulations on the reunion :)

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RE: Question about some people seeking... - 12/1/2015 2:18:28 PM

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The gluten test is done via a blood test, however the problem is that it is a bit unreliable, more often than not shows a false negative, mine came back negative but my docs suggested that I don't repeat it and explained that it can only find one type of gluten intolerance but there are several, plus it doesn't pick up on gluten sensitivity. I had the endoscopy (paid for privately as the blood test said negative) and it turned out to be a gluten problem as the vili were all flattened. Though if the blood test turns out positive the NHS will supply you with some GF food (the vouchers) though I wouldn't claim it because I think it should go to people who have kids.

As for the stuff just being pennies more, I wish, I seriously do, there is one loaf of bread that is only roughly twice the price and much smaller than the regular one, and you might as well try cardboard, plus it's choke full with sugar and soy, which I also should avoid. The Schaer stuff that tesco now has is 4 rolls for £2.50 and that's actually not delicious but edible, GF pasta, unless you order online from Italian retailers, you may as well just try mush, tasteless and you chew and chew and chew, and again, full of soy, a GF pizza (tesco's own brand) without anything, literally just like those £1 things is £3 and again, it tastes like cardboard. The GF soy sauce is again twice as much.
I don't know about ASDA, Alderly doesn't have one nearby, even tesco is quite a bit away, we have Waitrose, Sainsbury, Marks & Sparks Food, the nearest Morrison is in Wilmslow about 3 miles away, apart from ASDA being part of the "Walmart family" reason enough to not buy there, far less go for a long drive to shop there.

There's an old lady I look after a bit, she's living off a pension and she doesn't switch on her heating much due to the bill, we have her over and feed her as much as possible without making her feel like a charity case, she seriously lives frugal but her pension doesn't stretch to more than a packet of shop brand biccies a week. It's simply an expensive area and at her age being uprooted just wouldn't do her much good.

If you don't mind me asking, if you had so many staying, why didn't it work out? And don't you mind that people just don't want to work? For me that would be the biggest deal breaker, the not wanting to work, getting it backdated and claiming, I tend to take a rather dim view on that, it's simply abusing the system and expecting others to foot the bill, I thought that hardly happens. In my long gone youth, I dated a guy who was seriously rich but he didn't want to work and I found I just couldn't tolerate anybody who's bone lazy, you know if he would have had some hobbies or anything, he played golf really well at a level where they wanted him to go pro but he decided that it's too much effort, that attitude just made me sick. I like some drive in people, some interest, not navel gazers. At the moment work is relatively quiet and will stay so until after Xmas (unless one of my clients does something really stupid) so I'm doing a bunch of translations for a research project and use the time to work on my Spanish.

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RE: Question about some people seeking... - 12/1/2015 2:26:18 PM

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'twas a really unexpected quirk of fate and all down to my ex thinking the grass was greener etc etc.

Got my 7th wedding anniversary with my lovely new partner this month.
Have both my kids living at home at the mo.
Recently grabbed a nice 37" flat screen PC monitor for free.

If we ever get a proper 24/7 slave, it'll be icing on the cake.
But... Life couldn't get much better unless I win the lottery. lol.

There's been rough patches, like everyone gets from time to time.
But right now - I'm king of the castle and reveling in every minute of it!!

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RE: Question about some people seeking... - 12/1/2015 3:09:07 PM

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A lot of people on the otherside are off in disneyland. PERIOD.
You wouldn't believe the amount of guys when I ask them if they are moving to my current area soon.
They are all right out of the gate: oh yeah... i could move there, no problem.
I'm like "oh really?? So are you trying to tell me you are going to uproot yourself, leave your home, move all your possessions, say goodbye to your friends, leave your job, or relocate your business, say goodbye to whatever family you have there, or tell your family your moving, relocate your pets - sell your property if you own any, change banks if you need to.... i mean the list goes on and on - over me; who has a BLANK profile (except 2 pics) and that you've exchanged 2 messages with.

Here dood -----> here's a link to a pretty good porn site. Go whack one off and say goodnight Gracie.

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RE: Question about some people seeking... - 12/1/2015 3:22:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

The gluten test is done via a blood test, however the problem is that it is a bit unreliable, more often than not shows a false negative, mine came back negative but my docs suggested that I don't repeat it and explained that it can only find one type of gluten intolerance but there are several, plus it doesn't pick up on gluten sensitivity. I had the endoscopy (paid for privately as the blood test said negative) and it turned out to be a gluten problem as the vili were all flattened. Though if the blood test turns out positive the NHS will supply you with some GF food (the vouchers) though I wouldn't claim it because I think it should go to people who have kids.

My son's Gf refused to eat most stuff because she claimed to have various dietary problems including a gluten and lactose intolerance.
We sent her to our GP and she had one of those multi-jab tests done (and a blood test if I remember rightly).
Within a week they had diagnosed a very mild gluten reaction but nothing serious.
If she needed any other tests or if there were any doubts, our GP would have referred her to the local hospital specialist/consultant for further tests.

That's why I don't understand how you managed to get such a bad service from your GP and NHS in general.
I honestly don't see that here.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
As for the stuff just being pennies more, I wish, I seriously do, there is one loaf of bread that is only roughly twice the price and much smaller than the regular one, and you might as well try cardboard, plus it's choke full with sugar and soy, which I also should avoid. The Schaer stuff that tesco now has is 4 rolls for £2.50 and that's actually not delicious but edible, GF pasta, unless you order online from Italian retailers, you may as well just try mush, tasteless and you chew and chew and chew, and again, full of soy, a GF pizza (tesco's own brand) without anything, literally just like those £1 things is £3 and again, it tastes like cardboard. The GF soy sauce is again twice as much.

I just had a quick look at what ASDA stock for gluten-free bread.
This is one of the products they have:

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ASDA Gluten-free
Lifestyle
Suitable for Vegetarians. Suitable for Coeliacs.
Allergy Advice
Free From: Gluten, Wheat, Milk.
Contains: Eggs.
Additives
Free From: Artificial Preservatives.
Ingredients
Maize Starch , Water , Potato Starch , Tapioca Starch , Rapeseed Oil , Humectant: Vegetable Glycerol , Psyllium Husk Powder , Yeast , Stabiliser: Hydroxypropyl Methyl Cellulose , Ground Golden Flaxseed , Free Range Dried Egg White , Rice Flour , Dextrose , Iodised Salt: Salt, Potassium Iodate , Fermented Maize Starch , Partially Inverted Sugar Syrup , Calcium Carbonate , Niacin , Iron , Riboflavin , Thiamin , Folic Acid

Note.... no soy anywhere; and this is a branded product, not ASDA's own label.
Slightly smaller than a standard 800g loaf and slightly more expensive but not a huge amount.
They also have seeded gluten-free rolls at £1.50 for 4.

We stopped shopping at Tesco a few years ago because they were getting as expensive as Sainsbury's and Waitrose.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
I don't know about ASDA, Alderly doesn't have one nearby, even tesco is quite a bit away, we have Waitrose, Sainsbury, Marks & Sparks Food, the nearest Morrison is in Wilmslow about 3 miles away, apart from ASDA being part of the "Walmart family" reason enough to not buy there, far less go for a long drive to shop there.

Like many household brands, when they open a franchise abroad, the mother company has very little to do with their overseas subsidiaries apart from the profits.
The fact that ASDA is owned by Walmart seems to have very little influence on what they sell.
The staff certainly don't suffer from the same low wages that Walmart employees seem to suffer in the US and the products are completely different.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
There's an old lady I look after a bit, she's living off a pension and she doesn't switch on her heating much due to the bill, we have her over and feed her as much as possible without making her feel like a charity case, she seriously lives frugal but her pension doesn't stretch to more than a packet of shop brand biccies a week. It's simply an expensive area and at her age being uprooted just wouldn't do her much good.

My daughter is a carer for an older guy living 3 doors down from us.
He is just the same - won't have the heating on because it's expensive.
I also had a friend who has recently moved up north somewhere and complained about the costs of running heating and mopping up pools of condensation every morning.
We have our heating on 24/7 and it's set to 24C and our gas bill is barely a quarter of the old guy's bills and his house is always cold and feels damp.
Storage radiators are filled with bricks - that's how they work to store energy.
So think about it... what is the average house built of?? Bricks!!! The perfect storage medium!
Warm your whole house up thoroughly. Might take a month or two, but once warm you can keep it warm for very little cost.
Think of boiling a pan of water. It takes a lot of energy to get it to the boil, but very little to keep it simmering on the boil for a very long time. Your heating works the same way.
Not running the heating is a false economy.

ETA: My friend moved to somewhere just outside Halifax. It took 3 months to dry out her bricks and warm them up. It cost them almost £200 extra over those 3 months but her quarterly gas bill is now £120+ a month cheaper than it used to be. So the initial expense has paid for itself within 3 months and her house is now very warm (she had to turn the heating down) and no more condensation puddles to mop up.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
If you don't mind me asking, if you had so many staying, why didn't it work out? And don't you mind that people just don't want to work? For me that would be the biggest deal breaker, the not wanting to work, getting it backdated and claiming, I tend to take a rather dim view on that, it's simply abusing the system and expecting others to foot the bill, I thought that hardly happens.

I live in the (so-called) prosperous south-east of England, in the London commuter belt.
In the summer, the government announced that there were 1.2 million new jobs in our region that year and 300+ new apprenticeships.
Really?? My daughter's fiance, my step-daughter and my son can't find any job within economic traveling distance that is more than 10 hours a week and even those are usually zero-hour contracts.
And there are NO apprenticeships available... not even full ones. None!!
So where did they get those figures from??

As I said, many /s's we've spoken to aren't working, can't find a job or an apprenticeship, for love nor money.
The government have put a cap on housing benefits so that most under 25 cannot get it and those that are old enough don't get enough to cover the rent for a simple bedsit let alone their own flat.
Plus, they've done away with the council tax benefit for all except the pensioners.
In essence, if you are under 25 it's almost impossible to live on your own in your own place and be able to afford to pay utilities and feed yourself.

Most didn't stay because it was known to be a short-term thing (Uni break) or they were going to start college at the start of the new scholastic year.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
In my long gone youth, I dated a guy who was seriously rich but he didn't want to work and I found I just couldn't tolerate anybody who's bone lazy, you know if he would have had some hobbies or anything, he played golf really well at a level where they wanted him to go pro but he decided that it's too much effort, that attitude just made me sick. I like some drive in people, some interest, not navel gazers. At the moment work is relatively quiet and will stay so until after Xmas (unless one of my clients does something really stupid) so I'm doing a bunch of translations for a research project and use the time to work on my Spanish.

In my youth, you could hop from one job/career to another without too much effort.
These days it's not so easy if you don't have the financial backing to tide you over.
Given the current job prospects (or lack of), unless you've got reams of qualifications, it's no wonder today's youngsters are lethargic and have no impetus to find work.
It wouldn't be the first time I've given my son the proverbial kick up the backside to go find work - but there really isn't much out there for them to find.

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As I said, I think the nearest ASDA is in Stockport, and ASDA is owned by the Koch brothers, I'll be damned if they earn one single Pence from me... It's just NO

Seriously economic travelling distance of 10 hours a week? That's a joke isn't it? 5 working days so it's one hour to work and one hour back, that's doable, easily. I'm working most of the time from home but even I get that together in a week, usually more, I think hubby would be overjoyed with just 10 hours of commute a week.

If he's serious about an apprenticeship, it might not be the job he wants, but tell him to look into charities, it will give him some training and when it comes to employment, companies tend to take somebody with work experience and who shows initiative, it looks a lot better than a blank space on a CV. If he's got the time, why doesn't he get qualifications? Trust me I do know how hard it is, try finding something anywhere "up North" as a foreigner, when I was between jobs I tried temp agencies, I got a hell of a CV, and was told a call center is all they can offer me, coming from somebody with a Northern grunt that was difficult to understand telling me that as a foreigner a PhD in English means nothing and the fact that my MA is from Trinity means nothing (yeah, they don't speak English in Dublin), nor does the fact that most of my career I worked in English speaking countries or for English and American media... I was somewhat gobsmacked. But seriously, how about pet sitting, dog walking, if you're in the commuter belt there are people there who need that. When I went to LA for a couple of months this year hubby had a contract that is a 90 minute drive in good traffic (that means he has to leave the house at 6am) so he couldn't come back in his lunch break to empty them. We were their first clients and I liked them, so we went with them as the dogs also liked them, I noticed their marketing is somewhat shit and just offered them help with a webpage, FB page, the whole social media game, he's ex army but unemployable due to epilepsy and decided to make the plunge with the dog walking, they're now able to live quite comfy from doing something they love doing and it was seriously fun helping them along. It won't stop your son from looking for a job, but something like that will make his CV stand out, plus if he walks the dogs of people, feeds their cats etc., he meets more people and often knowing somebody in the company is half the job...

Seriously, if everything would fail, I'd possibly be pulling pints in a pub, clean offices or houses, fill shelves in a supermarket, muck out stables or whatever.

As for the NHS here, I'm living in the NE, one of the wealthiest boroughs outside of London, my dogs can't piss without splattering a Bentley, Austin Marten, Jag or such, the football players don't use the NHS, so the NHS is more or less non-existent, it's easier to get a boob job or a face lift here than an appointment with a GP (general waiting time for GP appointment is 4 to 6 weeks). One the other hand you got flats that go between 200 and 300K, a pokey 2 bedroom terraced house starts at 250K, you want more than 4 bedrooms (we need an office each but we would have liked more than one guest room but that was out of our range) you're looking above a million unless you you're prepared to spend the next few months to years on a building site, because the house is so run down you have to gut it, if you can find it...
I think in our street we're possibly the only ones who support Labour.

Sounds like a cool place, right, however they have a food bank, and they had to open it more often as the lines were too long, yet if you look into Oxfam, you see more Gucci, Prada, etc. than at Harvey Nicks, the cheapest clothing store around is Jaeger... Compared to the other local food stores, M&S Foods is a real bargain bin.

Seriously, I can't even go out and have a coffee because if one of the ex glamour models who married a footballer whinges on the next table about staff and how she's so inconvenienced that her cleaner takes time off because the child is sick, I possibly spit my coffee all over her.

I'm honestly glad that they didn't steal more from the pensioners, those are people who worked most of their lives, they deserve to be taken care of and as for Edith heating up her flat (she doesn't live in a house, she has the tiniest flat ever, I feel somewhat claustrophobic, seriously our dog cage - for one dog - is not much smaller than her bedroom) it wouldn't really do much good, she lives over a florist shop and due to the flowers being kept cool, it's like having a freezer installed, when we bought a new dryer that packs more (with the pets there's always a ton of washing and drying) we gave her our old condense dryer, she uses the heat to keep the flat a bit warm and so she doesn't have to drape her drying over the furniture. I'm much more upset about that (especially knowing how the football players and others evade taxes through offshore companies) than somebody deciding that 10 hours commute a week is too much.
As for the free bus passes, yes she does have one, for all the good it does her with a bad hip (she's on a waiting list but at her age it's not a priority and they possibly hope she snuffs it before) and busses in the town of luxury cars, hmmm yeah, far and few between... We do have 3 car dealerships here, I leave it for you to guess which brands they sell...

You know it's ridiculous how easy it is to avoid taxes, we get about 2 calls a week from companies offering to set it up for us (I have no idea how they get our info) and it effing drives me bonkers, it's not that I like paying taxes, I don't think anybody does, but if you're living in a society, you pull your weight, you pay your tax, you work if you can, this whole thing with allowing big companies to squirrel trillions away freaks me out, Starbucks and such wouldn't close all the shops in the UK if they wouldn't be allowed to use the tax loopholes...

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