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BamaD -> RE: Shooting in California (12/3/2015 1:29:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant "easy access to guns" (in one of the strictest gun control states in the nation, where passing a universal background check IS required) Which obviously will stop people purchasing those guns in another state at one of the gun shows and drive to California... Since they would have to have a backgroud check when guying the gun from a dealer at a gun show he still hasn't avoided the background check. In most cases they would then have to ship the firearm to a dealer in Ca who would then do yet another check. You have listened to to much leftest propaganda. And apparently you are blatantly unaware that if you do buy guns at gun shows no background check is required http://www.governing.com/gov-data/safety-justice/gun-show-firearms-bankground-checks-state-laws-map.html Somebody dropped a heavy gun on your your head? Hope that doesn't stop you from licking the NRA hindquarters.... Something stopped you to simply fact check? Yeah, oops, lack of brain I guess You live in the UK, all you know is what the press wants you to believe. It isn't your fault that they treat you like a mushroom in regards to lightin and diet.

BamaD -> RE: Shooting in California (12/3/2015 1:33:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Uh, no. California has no universal background check, nor 'universal' background check. They do heavier checking from more databases, but private sales are not checked, and their 'universal' checks are not foolproof. Like saying they have 'assault' checks, for fucks sake. Meaningless. It wasn't me who said they did now was it? Since you are so smart you should have noticed that. I didnt say you said it. Since I didnt say you said it, you should have noticed that, dumbass. I am not going to FR and do all that stupid shit all the time, I am gonna post where it lands, look around, I have done that since day one. Get a sack, and understand everything is not about you. Dont be a Tommiecunt. If you don't use FR you have no right to be offended when you make it look like you are talking to someone you aren't, and that the person you think you are talking to ignores it since you seem to be talking to somone else.

Greta75 -> RE: Shooting in California (12/3/2015 1:41:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub First... your scenario very seldom happens ... second...so you believe that a robber deserves a bullet to the head? Is your twenty dollars and a credit card worth a human life? I have no love of thieves either but I am raised better than to kill over things. Yesterday here in St. Louis two young black boys saw a car left unlocked with articles on the seat. They opened the door and reached in and one was shot in the back and killed... Yes they were thieves...but was not their life worth more? Butch I am one that always believe the harsher the consequences of the crime, the less likely it would be perpetrated. Teenage boys stealing probably do not deserve such drastic punishment as death, but if the result of them stealing is death, and that is a typical scenario, it would be a great deterrent. But clearly it is happening because it's not typical enough. Doesn't happen often enough.

thompsonx -> RE: Shooting in California (12/3/2015 1:42:23 PM)
this makes it Lawful for a Man to kill a Thief, who has not in in the least hurt him, nor declared any design upon his Life, any farther then by the use of Force, so to get him in his Power, as to take away his Money, or what he pleases from him: Since john locke was dead for almost a hundred years before the usa was created what he proposes looses a bit of it's juice. You see that shit is illegal in my country. Thievery was a capital offense back then but not now. Not in merrie old england nor here in merrie old usa. When morons seek to justify murder of a thief by the musings of a man with no knowledge of whassup in the here and now they show themselves to be absolute fools at best or disingenous bloodthirsty assholes at worst. its a good place to ask, how many times have home/car invasions turned into rapes, beatings and murders? A far better place to ask if you are aware of the constitution of my country? If not, now might be a propicious time for you to gain some acquaintence of that document and the laws that ensued from it's pressence. From your previous posts it is quite clear to the most casual observer that you like playing god and will seek any prop, no matter how flimsy to support your bloodthirsty agenda.... We are not amused[8\|]

thompsonx -> RE: Shooting in California (12/3/2015 1:47:14 PM)
ORIGINAL: Greta75 I am one that always believe the harsher the consequences of the crime, the less likely it would be perpetrated. That is the opinion of many morons so you seem to be in the company of kindred souls. Teenage boys stealing probably do not deserve such drastic punishment as death, but if the result of them stealing is death, and that is a typical scenario, it would be a great deterrent. But clearly it is happening because it's not typical enough. Doesn't happen often enough. You claim to be from singapore where petty criminals are cained. Even those with the most limited intellect can see that it does not work in singapore because petty criminals are still cained every week. It is quite obvious to the most casual observer that you are full of shit as a christmas goose.

thompsonx -> RE: Shooting in California (12/3/2015 1:54:23 PM)
ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr Well, I have more than $20 in my house. My musical equipment alone goes into 5 digits, easily. That aside, I *worked* for everything I have. Well of course you did.[8\|] I sweated and bled for (almost) every dollar. I saved and invested wisely. Why is it the contention of so many that when some scumbag decides he has a *right* to the things I worked for ... when that scumbag is breaking the law by *invading* my home and making me feel less than secure (a *right, guaranteed by the constitution, by the way), that I am supposed to just stand aside and let the scumbag just take possession of my things? Where's the mentality in that, I wonder? No one has sugested that you do so. It has been pointed out that killing them is not only against the law but also quite messy.* If you ask me, that is the mentality of someone who will always be (not just imagine themselves to be) a perpetual victim. Literate people call that a false choice

thompsonx -> RE: Shooting in California (12/3/2015 1:57:15 PM)
You live in the UK, all you know is what the press wants you to believe. It isn't your fault that they treat you like a mushroom in regards to lightin anf diet. Of course living in alabama guarantees you access to the inside information that is always complete and correct...or is that "fair and ballanced" or at least rupurts interpretation of it?

Greta75 -> RE: Shooting in California (12/3/2015 2:00:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx You claim to be from singapore where petty criminals are cained. Even those with the most limited intellect can see that it does not work in singapore because petty criminals are still cained every week. It is quite obvious to the most casual observer that you are full of shit as a christmas goose. Where is your source that petty crimes are caned every week? You love to ask people to show proof right? To my knowledge living here, caning is seldom melted out except for major vandalism and rape and molest. And it works, since you do not see any graffiti anywhere, if there are graffitis, you gotta trek into very obscure places where they can't be caught and their graffiti can't be seen. You can't see a single graffiti in public places. Clearly caning works in prevention. And we have lower rape and molest cases than the US. One of the lowest in the world. It's working. Women can dress skimpily without "asking for it" over here.

thompsonx -> RE: Shooting in California (12/3/2015 3:09:01 PM)
ORIGINAL: Greta75 ORIGINAL: thompsonx You claim to be from singapore where petty criminals are cained. Even those with the most limited intellect can see that it does not work in singapore because petty criminals are still cained every week. It is quite obvious to the most casual observer that you are full of shit as a christmas goose. Where is your source that petty crimes are caned every week? You love to ask people to show proof right? Your memory is rather short. I posted a link the last time we spoke of this listing all the crimes that rate caining and how many strokes. You told me that you had been cained and it did not hurt at all. Perhaps if you spent less time with your head up your ass your ass you might overcome that anal myopia. To my knowledge living here, I was unaware that caining existed in van nuys. caning is seldom melted out except for major vandalism Once again you are full of shit....unless you consider this major. Vandalism (writing, drawing, painting marking or inscribing on any public or private property without permission and stealing destroying or damaging any public property) Is good for a maximum of 8 big ones. and rape and molest. And it works, since you do not see any graffiti anywhere, if there are graffitis, you gotta trek into very obscure places where they can't be caught and their graffiti can't be seen. You can't see a single graffiti in public places. Clearly caning works in prevention. If it worked then no one would get cained but the caining is as regular as your constant nonsense. And we have lower rape and molest cases than the US. One of the lowest in the world. It's working. Women can dress skimpily without "asking for it" over here. Once again you are full of shit. Appearing nude in public or private place 27A. —(1) Any person who appears nude — (a) in a public place; or (b) in a private place and is exposed to public view, shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $2,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 months or to both. [12/96] (2) For the purpose of this section, the reference to a person appearing nude includes a person who is clad in such a manner as to offend against public decency or order. [12/96] (3) Where an offence under this section is committed in a private place, it shall be lawful for a police officer to enter the private place without the authority of the owner or occupier of the private place to effect the arrest of the offender. [12/96] (4) In effecting entry under subsection (3), it shall be lawful for a police officer to use such force as may be necessary to enter the private place. http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/search/display/view.w3p;ident=f995cb3f-5607-4af6-b6d2-b55ef3f6874c;page=0;query=DocId%3A%22ca5b9bd4-5b2e-4b42-9349-a5aaf258d9a4%22%20Status%3Ainforce%20Depth%3A0;rec=0

Greta75 -> RE: Shooting in California (12/3/2015 3:50:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx Your memory is rather short. I posted a link the last time we spoke of this listing all the crimes that rate caining and how many strokes. You told me that you had been cained and it did not hurt at all. Perhaps if you spent less time with your head up your ass your ass you might overcome that anal myopia. The link you post did not prove that caning happens every week. It only listed crimes that canes. But you know, just because it says, fine up to $10k, doesn't mean you get fine at all right? It just means, you may get fined up to $10k. So just because caning is the possibility in that crime, does not mean it is issued for that crime. So you have ZERO proof at all. quote: If it worked then no one would get cained but the caining is as regular as your constant nonsense. The only person caned for vandalism are foreigners who come as tourists to vandalise something in Singapore and Instagram it to brag that is cool, and yes, we cane them. So it works, but we can't control what tourist do, as they came from countries where they don't get punish for such crimes. quote: And we have lower rape and molest cases than the US. One of the lowest in the world. It's working. Women can dress skimpily without "asking for it" over here. Once again you are full of shit. Appearing nude in public or private place 27A. —(1) Any person who appears nude — (a) in a public place; or (b) in a private place and is exposed to public view, shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $2,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 months or to both. [12/96] (2) For the purpose of this section, the reference to a person appearing nude includes a person who is clad in such a manner as to offend against public decency or order. [12/96] (3) Where an offence under this section is committed in a private place, it shall be lawful for a police officer to enter the private place without the authority of the owner or occupier of the private place to effect the arrest of the offender. [12/96] (4) In effecting entry under subsection (3), it shall be lawful for a police officer to use such force as may be necessary to enter the private place. http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/search/display/view.w3p;ident=f995cb3f-5607-4af6-b6d2-b55ef3f6874c;page=0;query=DocId%3A%22ca5b9bd4-5b2e-4b42-9349-a5aaf258d9a4%22%20Status%3Ainforce%20Depth%3A0;rec=0 I love how you associate dressing skimpily the same as being naked. It's legal to wear bikini to a club or in public. But if you walk naked, that's not legal. But women have walked naked into bars and club and left untouched. Still no molest or rape for her. People are scared to touch a woman in Singapore, because the punishment is heavy. After all, even if you just touch her elbow, that's molestation already. Jail term! So hands off women here is the norm. Against public decency means flashing boobs and private parts by the way, as long as you cover those bits up, you can dress as skimpy as you like, you shall be fine. We have bikini bars here ya know. If that was illegal, how can these places legally set up? We had Abercrombie & Fitch parade underwear models on our streets and in their stores legally.

thompsonx -> RE: Shooting in California (12/3/2015 5:41:10 PM)
ORIGINAL: Greta75 ORIGINAL: thompsonx Your memory is rather short. I posted a link the last time we spoke of this listing all the crimes that rate caining and how many strokes. You told me that you had been cained and it did not hurt at all. Perhaps if you spent less time with your head up your ass you might overcome that anal myopia. The link you post did not prove that caning happens every week. It only listed crimes that canes. But you know, just because it says, fine up to $10k, doesn't mean you get fine at all right? It just means, you may get fined up to $10k. So just because caning is the possibility in that crime, does not mean it is issued for that crime. So you have ZERO proof at all. Another gyser of shit spewed from your pie hole. 2500/365= about 7 every day. More than half of them locals not foriegners. More than 2500 people were caned in Singapore in 2012; http://www.dw.com/en/the-invisible-scars-left-by-strikes-of-the-cane/a-18298970 If it worked then no one would get cained but the caining is as regular as your constant nonsense. The only person caned for vandalism are foreigners who come as tourists to vandalise something in Singapore. The facts seem to dispute your opinion.

thompsonx -> RE: Shooting in California (12/3/2015 5:49:49 PM)
ORIGINAL: Greta75 And we have lower rape and molest cases than the US. One of the lowest in the world. It's working. Women can dress skimpily without "asking for it" over here. Once again you are full of shit. Appearing nude in public or private place 27A. —(1) Any person who appears nude — (a) in a public place; or (b) in a private place and is exposed to public view, shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $2,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 months or to both. [12/96] (2) For the purpose of this section, the reference to a person appearing nude includes a person who is clad in such a manner as to offend against public decency or order. [12/96] (3) Where an offence under this section is committed in a private place, it shall be lawful for a police officer to enter the private place without the authority of the owner or occupier of the private place to effect the arrest of the offender. [12/96] (4) In effecting entry under subsection (3), it shall be lawful for a police officer to use such force as may be necessary to enter the private place. http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/search/display/view.w3p;ident=f995cb3f-5607-4af6-b6d2-b55ef3f6874c;page=0;query=DocId%3A%22ca5b9bd4-5b2e-4b42-9349-a5aaf258d9a4%22%20Status%3Ainforce%20Depth%3A0;rec=0 [/quote] I love how you associate dressing skimpily the same as being naked. From the posted law above that was bolded to atain your attention (2) For the purpose of this section, the reference to a person appearing nude includes a person who is clad in such a manner as to offend against public decency or order. [12/96] If you are unaware of what the word clad means perhaps you could get a grown up to explane it to you. It's legal to wear bikini to a club or in public. But if you walk naked, that's not legal. Perhaps you should alert the government in that third world shit hole to your interpretation of their law? Against public decency means flashing boobs and private parts by the way, as long as you cover those bits up, you can dress as skimpy as you like, you shall be fine. We have bikini bars here ya know. If that was illegal, how can these places legally set up? It would seem that only occures in your peurile imagination

PeonForHer -> RE: Shooting in California (12/3/2015 5:58:04 PM)
quote: as I have said before, the left is in major support of islam You and many others, Bounty. But it was, is, and will remain, crap.

kdsub -> RE: Shooting in California (12/3/2015 6:31:22 PM)
I was not asking...i was saying what should be used and why. Butch

ifmaz -> RE: Shooting in California (12/3/2015 6:56:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub I was not asking...i was saying what should be used and why. Butch Are you suggesting a shotgun cannot penetrate a wall?

kdsub -> RE: Shooting in California (12/3/2015 7:04:09 PM)
The odds are a lot less with bird shot...a lot less than with a rifle or handgun... I can tell you that more than on CHILD has been killed...THIS YEAR alone in the hell hole of North ST. Louis with rounds that have penetrated walls and killed them in their homes... NOT ONE SHOTGUN DEATH WAS RECORDED. Butch

BamaD -> RE: Shooting in California (12/3/2015 7:31:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub I was not asking...i was saying what should be used and why. Butch And he should use what suits him. How do you know he has the use of both hands? Then he would have to use one of those evil pistols.

ifmaz -> RE: Shooting in California (12/3/2015 7:35:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub The odds are a lot less with bird shot...a lot less than with a rifle or handgun... I can tell you that more than on CHILD has been killed...THIS YEAR alone in the hell hole of North ST. Louis with rounds that have penetrated walls and killed them in their homes... NOT ONE SHOTGUN DEATH WAS RECORDED. Butch And you have a source to cite for this conclusion, yes?

kdsub -> RE: Shooting in California (12/3/2015 7:44:19 PM)
Yes me

ifmaz -> RE: Shooting in California (12/3/2015 7:45:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Yes me So no credible source for your information.

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