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Tkman117 -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 5:36:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Torture is not effective, never has been. The person being tortured will tell you what he/she thinks you want to hear, just to get it to stop. Not with bombs, because, they would sent ppl to location to check, and tell the terrorist, if the bomb is not there, his family will be slowly tortured to death, and they do it infront of his eyes. They can't lie about these stuffs. When it's a wife or a daughter, they will break. I know for a fact such tactics been used effectively to save lives and find hidden bombs from people who have done it in the military by people who have used it. Obviously it's not publicised in the media when underhand methods are used. As there is gonna be public outcry and outrage. And what will result is the red tape US has right now to even enforce effective protection. The new California case brings about another interesting new method. US born Muslim marries terrorist muslim women so that they can innocently disguise as a harmless happy family in the US. They even have a child together to make it look even more realistic, like they got alot to live for and to lose. If that woman had successfully planted bombs, and she was caught alive, I think her baby is gonna have to be the one to hit to get her to talk. I know this all sounds evil. But I genuinely believe that when you are dealing with evil, you can't turn the other cheek. It will just happen like what happen to Jesus. He got nailed on the cross instead and I didn't feel like his self-sacrifice inspired the people who did that to him, to be better people at all. You are absolutely sick, how can you talk about fighting evil when what you propose is just as bad if not worse than what they're doing?The whole point of fighting terrorism is to prevent human suffering, not cause more of it. Plus how the fuck would you know? Have you tortured people to get the location of hidden bombs out of them? Or have you simply been playing one too many call of duty games?

Tkman117 -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 5:37:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lovmuffin FR This should be called the Trump Psychobabble Thread [8D] Ignorance is also an inherently primitive quality, no wonder you gravitate toward trump as much as you do [8\|]

PeonForHer -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 5:53:48 AM)
quote: The whole point of fighting terrorism is to prevent human suffering, not cause more of it. No it isn't. The whole point of fighting terrorism is to have something that makes it righteous to cause more suffering to other people.

Musicmystery -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 6:04:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Passive aggressive much...like I said... you are just like the rest of us....Did I hurt your feelings in some way? Just so I understand... what was my assumption that you are questioning? Butch You are a confused piece of work. Here's a reading comprehension tip -- when someone is questioning one of your assumptions, and you have trouble telling which one -- it's the one they quoted: quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Trump's appeal I believe is he says what many of us think. <--That one. See? I hope that "many of [you]" remains a minority. And that someone teaches you about the principles on which this country was founded . . . and likes to pretend it runs on. Here's a social coping tip -- when someone disagrees with you, that doesn't mean it's a "passive aggressive" attack. If that were true, you'd find most of the globe is engaged with "passive aggressive" attacks on you. And here's a language tip -- learn what a term means before you use it. There's nothing "passive aggressive" in my message. In fact, my disdain for you is open and clear, and has been in recent weeks -- a disdain that this little dance you're doing now has only increased. And here's a psychology tip -- you aren't a psychologist...you just have a huge ego. Not hurt, not angry, just strongly disagree with the apologists for what is open xenophobic and fascist and the opposite of what this country stands for that the Trumps and followers and apologists and I suppose now theorists are trying to pretend it is and always has been. It's dangerous. It's a cancer that once realized, isn't going back into the bottle without serious harm, to innocent people and to this country. And yeah, I'll speak out against it. And when I get these types of defense reactions (which really shows how on the mark the point is), I'll continue to speak against it, until people learn to start standing for something again instead of replacing character with hate and complicity. And for the rest of the gun-toting "time we make America save for real Americans" crowd who think that's the myopia of the looney left -- yup. It's time we take back this country and Congress at the election box. Your way has already been tried, and ushered in the darkest moments of history. You are the enemy here. Consider yourself opposed.

Hillwilliam -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 9:29:59 AM)
I'm still doing research to find out if this is the fastest violation of Godwin's law is collarme/collarchat history.

ifmaz -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 10:10:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: The whole point of fighting terrorism is to prevent human suffering, not cause more of it. No it isn't. The whole point of fighting terrorism is to have something that makes it righteous to cause more suffering to other people. ... and erode rights.

joether -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 10:11:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee Reprisals are legal, twit. No its not you moron! Its called revenge. Its attacking people who are most likely innocent and horrified by the events as much as anyone else. Or are we to consider the family of McVeigh and Nicholson enemies of the nation?

joether -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 10:25:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ifmaz How's that Firearm Myth Testing Lab coming, Joether? Funny you should bring that up... Seems not just the President but many others would like to revoke the law that prevents the CDC from running tests. A few more mass shootings should do it.... ...We all know there will be more mass shootings before the year is over....

ifmaz -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 10:26:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether quote: ORIGINAL: ifmaz How's that Firearm Myth Testing Lab coming, Joether? Funny you should bring that up... Seems not just the President but many others would like to revoke the law that prevents the CDC from running tests. A few more mass shootings should do it.... ...We all know there will be more mass shootings before the year is over.... So you've done nothing out of laziness, incompetence, or a mix of both?

joether -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 10:42:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Torture is not effective, never has been. The person being tortured will tell you what he/she thinks you want to hear, just to get it to stop. Not with bombs, because, they would sent ppl to location to check, and tell the terrorist, if the bomb is not there, his family will be slowly tortured to death, and they do it infront of his eyes. They can't lie about these stuffs. When it's a wife or a daughter, they will break. I know for a fact such tactics been used effectively to save lives and find hidden bombs from people who have done it in the military by people who have used it. Obviously it's not publicised in the media when underhand methods are used. As there is gonna be public outcry and outrage. And what will result is the red tape US has right now to even enforce effective protection. The new California case brings about another interesting new method. US born Muslim marries terrorist muslim women so that they can innocently disguise as a harmless happy family in the US. They even have a child together to make it look even more realistic, like they got alot to live for and to lose. If that woman had successfully planted bombs, and she was caught alive, I think her baby is gonna have to be the one to hit to get her to talk. I know this all sounds evil. But I genuinely believe that when you are dealing with evil, you can't turn the other cheek. It will just happen like what happen to Jesus. He got nailed on the cross instead and I didn't feel like his self-sacrifice inspired the people who did that to him, to be better people at all. You are absolutely sick, how can you talk about fighting evil when what you propose is just as bad if not worse than what they're doing?The whole point of fighting terrorism is to prevent human suffering, not cause more of it. Plus how the fuck would you know? Have you tortured people to get the location of hidden bombs out of them? Or have you simply been playing one too many call of duty games? She can even feel empathy for the child! That kid will grow up, and be told who their parents were. How they lived and how they died. A very painful and hard truth. Yes, Tkman, Aylee is known for not having any heart, compassion, or humanity left in body or mind. Her belief is the same as all other conservatives: The Ends Justify the Means. Anyone that has been living in reality for twenty years knows that the ends NEVER justify the means. When fighting great evil, it is not "OK" to become evil. It means to be a good person. That child will have some hard times ahead of them..... ...only hope they are cared and raised by someone with a good heart!

lovmuffin -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 11:52:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 quote: ORIGINAL: lovmuffin FR This should be called the Trump Psychobabble Thread [8D] Ignorance is also an inherently primitive quality, no wonder you gravitate toward trump as much as you do [8\|] This is too funny. The whole premise of this thread would be outrageously funny if it wasn't so outrageous. Hooray for the OP,the Psychobabble and all the rest of it.

Tkman117 -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 12:25:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lovmuffin quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 quote: ORIGINAL: lovmuffin FR This should be called the Trump Psychobabble Thread [8D] Ignorance is also an inherently primitive quality, no wonder you gravitate toward trump as much as you do [8\|] This is too funny. The whole premise of this thread would be outrageously funny if it wasn't so outrageous. Hooray for the OP,the Psychobabble and all the rest of it. You only find it outrageous because you refuse to accept that you make decisions based on emotions, not intelligence. You're like the majority of hard line right wingers who put up a wall as soon as something feels too real and instead call it nonsense and lunacy. Your country is failing because of people like YOU. I have quite a few friends who live in Europe, and we've talked a bit about your country in the past and what we see is a fall from where the USA was; a great country that worked toward scientific and intellectual progress. A country of inclusion, hope, and opportunity. But now? Almost half of your populace is anti-science, preferring to believe the earth was 5000 years old instead of what the brightest minds have found to be to the contrary. So many of you prefer to segregate and discriminate because people are different, there is little hope to be found in the US anymore, and what opportunity you do have is reserved for those who are born into money. You can't see it because you're becoming so much like Nazi Germany with the over excessive nationalism and the idea that America is number 1. You think you're the centre of the universe, and that this group of people who aren't like you are the root cause of so many "problems" your people experience. Your leaders deflect the true reason for stagnating wages, poor living standards, and more on people like muslims or the poor. The Nazis did the exact same fucking thing in Germany, and the fact that you can't see history repeating itself is both sad and extremely scary. I dont want to assume that the holocaust will repeat itself, but given the amount of narrow minded drivel you and your ilk have spewed over the last several months, it's hard not to see it eventually coming over the horizon. And if it does happen, I hope you're content knowing that it was you who helped make it happen.

kdsub -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 12:51:08 PM)
quote: Here's a social coping tip -- when someone disagrees with you, that doesn't mean it's a "passive aggressive" attack. lol... you are a pitiful little twerp... You attack me without addressing the subject... because you think it means something. We all have a right to our opinions and yes we all have a right to disagree. If you think I am wrong I would very much like to hear why from you. If all you can do is attack me personally then you are just showing your immaturity. Go stand in the corner like a good little boy. Butch

Musicmystery -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 1:04:35 PM)
Actually, I pointed out a disagreement with your basic assumption (content addressing the subject), and you went on this silly side trip (attacks w/o addressing the subject). If you can't be a man and stand behind your own initiatives, whining isn't going to pick up the slack. Nor is name calling. Pitiful twerp indeed. Grow up. quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Trump's appeal I believe is he says what many of us think. <--That one. See? I hope that "many of [you]" remains a minority. And that someone teaches you about the principles on which this country was founded . . . and likes to pretend it runs on.

lovmuffin -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 1:22:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 quote: ORIGINAL: lovmuffin quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 quote: ORIGINAL: lovmuffin FR This should be called the Trump Psychobabble Thread [8D] Ignorance is also an inherently primitive quality, no wonder you gravitate toward trump as much as you do [8\|] This is too funny. The whole premise of this thread would be outrageously funny if it wasn't so outrageous. Hooray for the OP,the Psychobabble and all the rest of it. You only find it outrageous because you refuse to accept that you make decisions based on emotions, not intelligence. You're like the majority of hard line right wingers who put up a wall as soon as something feels too real and instead call it nonsense and lunacy. Your country is failing because of people like YOU. I have quite a few friends who live in Europe, and we've talked a bit about your country in the past and what we see is a fall from where the USA was; a great country that worked toward scientific and intellectual progress. A country of inclusion, hope, and opportunity. But now? Almost half of your populace is anti-science, preferring to believe the earth was 5000 years old instead of what the brightest minds have found to be to the contrary. So many of you prefer to segregate and discriminate because people are different, there is little hope to be found in the US anymore, and what opportunity you do have is reserved for those who are born into money. You can't see it because you're becoming so much like Nazi Germany with the over excessive nationalism and the idea that America is number 1. You think you're the centre of the universe, and that this group of people who aren't like you are the root cause of so many "problems" your people experience. Your leaders deflect the true reason for stagnating wages, poor living standards, and more on people like muslims or the poor. The Nazis did the exact same fucking thing in Germany, and the fact that you can't see history repeating itself is both sad and extremely scary. I dont want to assume that the holocaust will repeat itself, but given the amount of narrow minded drivel you and your ilk have spewed over the last several months, it's hard not to see it eventually coming over the horizon. And if it does happen, I hope you're content knowing that it was you who helped make it happen. WoW !! You and the Birdbrain make quite the pair. It's Godwins law followed up with Godwins law and yet even more Psychobabble. I find that, not only outrageous, and call it "nonsense and lunacy" but I find your leftist Psychobabble "Ignorance is also an inherently primitive quality". Then to top it all off you say in one breath "I dont want to assume that the holocaust will repeat itself" but the next breath"t's hard not to see it eventually coming over the horizon." Good for you and your highly evolved European ilk and the "narrow minded drivel" and Psychobabble "you have spewed", Lovmuffin And Donald Trump Start WW III !!!!!

PeonForHer -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 1:36:34 PM)
quote: WoW !! You and the Birdbrain make quite the pair. It's Godwins law followed up with Godwins law and yet even more Psychobabble. I find that, not only outrageous, and call it "nonsense and lunacy" but I find your "Ignorance is also an inherently primitive quality". Then to top it all off you say in one breath "I dont want to assume that the holocaust will repeat itself" but the next breath"t's hard not to see it eventually coming over the horizon." Good for you and your highly evolved European friends. Lovmuffin And Donald Trump Start WW III !!!!! Not everyone who's an American right-winger is a cretin, lovmuffin - and well done for reminding us all of that. You yourself are an example of someone who is right wing and American, and I've no doubt that you know of right wing Americans who aren't cretins, and perhaps have met some of them personally.

lovmuffin -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 1:49:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: WoW !! You and the Birdbrain make quite the pair. It's Godwins law followed up with Godwins law and yet even more Psychobabble. I find that, not only outrageous, and call it "nonsense and lunacy" but I find your "Ignorance is also an inherently primitive quality". Then to top it all off you say in one breath "I dont want to assume that the holocaust will repeat itself" but the next breath"t's hard not to see it eventually coming over the horizon." Good for you and your highly evolved European friends. Lovmuffin And Donald Trump Start WW III !!!!! Not everyone who's an American right-winger is a cretin, lovmuffin - and well done for reminding us all of that. You yourself are an example of someone who is right wing and American, and I've no doubt that you know of right wing Americans who aren't cretins, and perhaps have met some of them personally. Yes Peon, thank you for that. All the right wing people I know and most of the ones I have ever heard of, are not cretins.

kdsub -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 1:52:08 PM)
My best friend is a right wing gun nut...lol we have glorious arguments... but lovmuffin have you ever met a left winger who is not a cretin? Butch

lovmuffin -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 1:58:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub My best friend is a right wing gun nut...lol we have glorious arguments... but lovmuffin have you ever met a left winger who is not a cretin? Butch Absolutely I have met non cretinous left wingers as some are friends and Gawd help me, I'm even related to some. I simply find they are just delusional [8D]

kdsub -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 1:59:25 PM)
lol...what fun would it be if we all agreed and were sane. Butch

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