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thompsonx -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 4:38:44 PM)

My country was built on sacrifice a few innocents for the greater good. So I believe in it.

Who would those innocents be?I am not unfamiliar with the origins of singapore but it appears that you are...or was that just a little slip of the lip?[8|]




thishereboi -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 4:51:01 PM)

Why would I put a bag over my head in shame. I am not in any way responsible for the actions of that ass any more than any other conservative is. Your problem is you see everything as us against them and seem to think everyone on the right thinks the same exact things and walks in lock step with each other. Occasionally you make a valid point but it get so lost in your walls of text that do nothing but prove what a pathetic little bigot you are.




thompsonx -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 4:55:03 PM)

I think her baby is gonna have to be the one to hit to get her to talk.

This would seem to indicate that you fully approve of and embrace the tactics of the terrorist. While copper heads and rattle snakes are both pit vipers the rattle snake has the courtesy of notifying those in his vicinity of his presence. We wish to thank you for your courtesy in this matter.




MrRodgers -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 10:27:04 PM)

Well the partisan rancor is by design people. It's meant to divide and conquer and it's working splendidly.

My first thought after a terrorist attack if it really was one, isn't revenge, it isn't blaming every Muslim out there...it's how much is the FBI/CIA involved. OR...at the very least, how much of their incompetence was necessary for it to happen at all.

The NSA has not stopped spying on American citizens. HERE

Given that, and this latest attack was not found out and stopped with all of the spying going on, here's one start at a solution: HERE

Here's another way : HERE

Oh and the Trump thing ? Again, it's early and when the establishment decides, Trump being that he loves himself and life in that order...will play ball and/or step out. It is that simple.

Trust me kinkroids, if it comes to it, he will be summoned by the CFR, will be taken aside and told and in no uncertain terms...drop out or play ball or.....?




ifmaz -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/5/2015 11:09:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Why would I put a bag over my head in shame. I am not in any way responsible for the actions of that ass any more than any other conservative is. Your problem is you see everything as us against them and seem to think everyone on the right thinks the same exact things and walks in lock step with each other. Occasionally you make a valid point but it get so lost in your walls of text that do nothing but prove what a pathetic little bigot you are.


Perhaps one should point out all the flaws of the left which joether is undoubtedly responsible for.




KenDckey -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/6/2015 12:59:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ifmaz


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Why would I put a bag over my head in shame. I am not in any way responsible for the actions of that ass any more than any other conservative is. Your problem is you see everything as us against them and seem to think everyone on the right thinks the same exact things and walks in lock step with each other. Occasionally you make a valid point but it get so lost in your walls of text that do nothing but prove what a pathetic little bigot you are.


Perhaps one should point out all the flaws of the left which joether is undoubtedly responsible for.


You mean like a Nazi leading the GOP Polls without showing who the Nazi is or any direct link to them?




Greta75 -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/6/2015 1:29:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Who would those innocents be?I am not unfamiliar with the origins of singapore but it appears that you are...or was that just a little slip of the lip?[8|]


How is it possible you are not familiar with the origins of Singapore when you were the self-proclaimed expert of our country? Our ruling party reach their status in a manner where it would never be acceptable in the US. End justifies the means way. Many oppositions who got in their way were simply arrested without trial and thrown in jail for life. Perhaps if the result of all, was majority people suffering like North Korea. Then we would be frown upon. But the ruling party simply wanted to implemented it's plans undisrupted, so fast progress happens. We couldn't have achieve all the things the tiny country achieved in a mere 50 years, from a swamp land of poverty and no natural resources and racial tension and riots, to the harmony, low jobless rate, low crime and low poverty rate, IF we had two parties constantly bickering and blocking each other from getting anything done. Singapore is an example of what happens if the dictator wasn't all about himself and actually plans and visions that will genuinely benefit majority of his people. Of course this could have gone the other way and turn out really bad, pros and cons. We were lucky.

We used to be slummy just like this, still many people lived in such conditions in the 60's:
http://singapour.blog.lemonde.fr/files/2012/04/kampong-at-sungei-kallang-near-braddell-1968.jpg
Now we are this, modern, comfortable:
Same Areas as the 1960's photo today, most people live in high rise now
Our City Today




joether -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/6/2015 1:57:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Why would I put a bag over my head in shame. I am not in any way responsible for the actions of that ass any more than any other conservative is. Your problem is you see everything as us against them and seem to think everyone on the right thinks the same exact things and walks in lock step with each other. Occasionally you make a valid point but it get so lost in your walls of text that do nothing but prove what a pathetic little bigot you are.


Ironically, you have more 'Us verse Them' in many of your posts. I do it once and catch holy hell for it!

The majority of those asked sided with Mr. Trump over all the other possible candidates. The lower one's education, the more likely they were to vote for Mr. Trump. Meaning, the dumber and less schooled the individual, the more likely they were to ignorant to study Mr. Trump's language and thought processes to determine he is behaving more like a nazi than someone in favor of "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness".

The "...walls of text...." that you mention are to help you understand the thought process. That there is an argument and supporting information to that argument. Notice when most of the conservative on here attack me? Its like one sentence long. I'm allowed to assume pretty much anything I want, since they did not take the time or effort to clarify their viewpoint/position. Then they get all bitchy and call me names. Hey, they had all the time in the world to clarify position and viewpoint with supporting argument(s). They didn't; is that my fault?

If I was a bigot, I would be hating conservatives. I dont hate the majority of conservatives. Just the ones that behave like wannabe-tyrants and dictators. The majority of conservatives have managed to dumb themselves down. Its really be quite a mystery why they would allow that to happen. Old school conservatives are very intelligent and educated individuals. They too dislike the current 'crop' of GOP nomination candidates. But they are an ever shrinking minority against the tidal way of "Low Information Voters".

So why the "...wall of text..."? The hopes to some how inspire one or more to simply stop, look at things objectively, and decide if their argument really stacks up when the bullshit is removed. Yet, many non-old school conservatives plague this forum. They are not able to handle an in-depthc conversation on most topics. If the topic is not reduced to under 144 characters, they cant keep up. It is really sad to see so many conservatives (and even some liberals) whom desire a lack of information on a concept, rather than 'as much as possible', in order to arrive at a decision.

Study Mr. Trump's words and the tone of those words. Observe the actions of Mr. Trump up to this point in life. This is not an individual that gives me confidence based what I understand right now of them, in the position of President. It seems the more extreme the candidates must go to the right, the less confidence I have in their abilities. Mr. Huckbee, Mr. Cruz, and Mr. Jindal sat in on a lecture by a christian holy man stating that if we had a Republican candidate in office, we should kill millions of US Citizens because they are gay. The fact that none of these individuals spoke out to that sort of tyranny is very troubling. An there are plenty of individuals that would vote for any of these individuals, if that thought process were allowed to occupy the White House.

Yes, "Wall of Text" is intimidating to those not able to handle the concept. In one point of America's past, a length of words that could fill a small book were considered 'the norm', for a US President. They were required to show the nation what they would do, and exactly how that process would unfold. In 2015, Mr. Trump just has to say he has a 1900 character document for handling illegal immigrants. Yet anyone that read that 1900 character bullshit, understood it had many problems. All the conservatives on here didnt bother to read it; but took the man at his world. They were against the Iran Treaty; yet never read that document either. For 159 pages, its a pretty quick read. Rather interesting read as well. Then we get to 'The Big One' on this forum: The Affordable Care Act (i.e. Obamacare). I've had to correct their errors. Which really weren't errors. They listen to a one or two sentence line of bullshit from conservative media and thought it was factual. Came onto the form and got smacked down by myself. I not only showed and explain the law, I explained....WHY....it was there.

No doubtfully a few of them will attack me. They'll quote the whole thing and give a 'rebuttal' that is one to three sentences in length. A simple and easily defeated argument that has flimsy supporting information at best. Along with a pile load of insults and put downs. In other words, I'm being challenged by 40-70 year old (physically speaking) adults, whom have the mental and/or emotional level of a junior high school kid.

They do not understand nor like the President. He's something they are not: educated. Listening to the President can be quite interesting. I may not agree with his 'wall of text', but I often can understand how he arrived at the viewpoint. Conservatives can not understand the primary argument, nor the supporting. Its all just 'babble' and 'nonsense' to them. Ever watch a child as you explain the 2nd law of thermodynamics to them? Same idea. The difference is, the kid doesn't have the maturity to listen because of their physical age. Most conservatives hate Mr. Sanders and Mrs. Clinton because they are educated, mature, and reasonable. They want someone to talk to them like idiots rather than encouraging them to consider a choice with longs of good information at hand.




joether -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/6/2015 2:12:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: KenDckey


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ORIGINAL: ifmaz


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Why would I put a bag over my head in shame. I am not in any way responsible for the actions of that ass any more than any other conservative is. Your problem is you see everything as us against them and seem to think everyone on the right thinks the same exact things and walks in lock step with each other. Occasionally you make a valid point but it get so lost in your walls of text that do nothing but prove what a pathetic little bigot you are.


Perhaps one should point out all the flaws of the left which joether is undoubtedly responsible for.


You mean like a Nazi leading the GOP Polls without showing who the Nazi is or any direct link to them?



If you need links to show it, it stating that you are to lazy to keep up with your civil duties as a US Citizen.....

Its your duty (according to the founding fathers) to not only keep tabs on what your government is doing (or not doing), as well as those running for public office. There are many links on the net right now about the connection between Mr. Trump ad Nazis. Given your on the internet, it shouldn't be tough to operate a search engine. You do know how to google, right? Of course you do! You have done it in the past.

So really, you have no excuses to being uninformed.....




thishereboi -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/6/2015 4:04:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ifmaz


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Why would I put a bag over my head in shame. I am not in any way responsible for the actions of that ass any more than any other conservative is. Your problem is you see everything as us against them and seem to think everyone on the right thinks the same exact things and walks in lock step with each other. Occasionally you make a valid point but it get so lost in your walls of text that do nothing but prove what a pathetic little bigot you are.


Perhaps one should point out all the flaws of the left which joether is undoubtedly responsible for.



First you are going to have to tell me what those are. As far as I know he is responsible for his own flaws and no one elses.




thishereboi -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/6/2015 4:05:44 AM)

Do I? Why don't you show me a link so I understand exactly what you are talking about.




ifmaz -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/6/2015 9:12:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: joether


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Why would I put a bag over my head in shame. I am not in any way responsible for the actions of that ass any more than any other conservative is. Your problem is you see everything as us against them and seem to think everyone on the right thinks the same exact things and walks in lock step with each other. Occasionally you make a valid point but it get so lost in your walls of text that do nothing but prove what a pathetic little bigot you are.


Ironically, you have more 'Us verse Them' in many of your posts. I do it once and catch holy hell for it!


This is a lie and you are a liar for suggesting it. Nearly every post by you is a rant about how the entirety of a group is responsible for a fraction of the group or how the right/conservatives are responsible for all the problems today. If you cannot see this out of stupidity that's one thing, yet you continually brag about your intelligence (while misusing 'whom', I should add).

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ORIGINAL: joether
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If I was a bigot, I would be hating conservatives. I dont hate the majority of conservatives.


Another lie. Is it warm with your pants on fire?

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ORIGINAL: joether
Just the ones that behave like wannabe-tyrants and dictators.


I'd think you'd get along with them with your own authoritarian leanings.

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ORIGINAL: joether
The majority of conservatives have managed to dumb themselves down. Its really be quite a mystery why they would allow that to happen. Old school conservatives are very intelligent and educated individuals. They too dislike the current 'crop' of GOP nomination candidates. But they are an ever shrinking minority against the tidal way of "Low Information Voters".


Again with the jabs at supposed intelligence levels.

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ORIGINAL: joether
So why the "...wall of text..."? The hopes to some how inspire one or more to simply stop, look at things objectively, and decide if their argument really stacks up when the bullshit is removed. Yet, many non-old school conservatives plague this forum. They are not able to handle an in-depthc conversation on most topics. If the topic is not reduced to under 144 characters, they cant keep up. It is really sad to see so many conservatives (and even some liberals) whom desire a lack of information on a concept, rather than 'as much as possible', in order to arrive at a decision.


And another jab at supposed intelligence levels. Your compensation is showing, joether.

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ORIGINAL: joether
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No doubtfully a few of them will attack me. They'll quote the whole thing and give a 'rebuttal' that is one to three sentences in length. A simple and easily defeated argument that has flimsy supporting information at best. Along with a pile load of insults and put downs. In other words, I'm being challenged by 40-70 year old (physically speaking) adults, whom have the mental and/or emotional level of a junior high school kid.


Yet another jab at supposedly intelligence levels.

Do you see how you put yourself above others ("I'm being challenged")? Have you done anything to further your views? You mentioned a Firearm Myth Testing Lab and how one was desperately needed yet have done nothing to make it happen. Others have put their money where their mouths are, donating to various causes and the like, offering their time, etc. Have you?

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ORIGINAL: joether
They do not understand nor like the President. He's something they are not: educated.


This is the fourth stab at intelligence in a single post.

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ORIGINAL: joether
Listening to the President can be quite interesting. I may not agree with his 'wall of text', but I often can understand how he arrived at the viewpoint. Conservatives can not understand the primary argument, nor the supporting. Its all just 'babble' and 'nonsense' to them. Ever watch a child as you explain the 2nd law of thermodynamics to them? Same idea. The difference is, the kid doesn't have the maturity to listen because of their physical age. Most conservatives hate Mr. Sanders and Mrs. Clinton because they are educated, mature, and reasonable. They want someone to talk to them like idiots rather than encouraging them to consider a choice with longs of good information at hand.


And we close with another stab at intelligence levels. Projection, joether?





bounty44 -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/6/2015 9:32:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: joether
They do not understand nor like the President. He's something they are not: educated.


gee, caught us. you forgot to mention we don't like him because he's black too.

we understand him all too well, he's a liberal and we reject liberal premises, policies and solutions to problems.

is that so hard for you to understand?

(and i'll keep trying until critical mass is reached: "who" is a subject, "whom" is an object. "who" acts. "whom" is acted upon.)




Tkman117 -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/6/2015 10:01:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44


we understand him all too well, he's a liberal and we reject liberal premises, policies and solutions to problems.

is that so hard for you to understand?



Nope, we get it. If an idea has the word liberal attached to it you automatically reject it. For example: Obamacare, which was originally based off a REPUBLICAN health care initiative on the state level. It's not even a liberal idea, but if it's the liberals supporting it of course you have to reject it, just like every other obedient partisan hack.

Personally I'm happy to give credit where credit is due, especially to conservatives. Up here Harper (who was a con) wasn't great, he did a lot of crappy things to our country in the last 9 years. But he brought us out of the economic recession and did make our country fairly successful. The healthcare in the USA isn't perfect, but it's better than what was there before. I'm happy to give credit to the original republican authors that it came from. I'm happy to recognize there are benefits to both liberal and conservative thinking, but to outright reject all liberal premises is the text book definition of being narrow minded and ignorant to new ideas. This is why liberals have a big issue with modern day conservatives, especially in the US.




KenDckey -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/6/2015 1:52:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: joether


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ORIGINAL: KenDckey


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ORIGINAL: ifmaz


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Why would I put a bag over my head in shame. I am not in any way responsible for the actions of that ass any more than any other conservative is. Your problem is you see everything as us against them and seem to think everyone on the right thinks the same exact things and walks in lock step with each other. Occasionally you make a valid point but it get so lost in your walls of text that do nothing but prove what a pathetic little bigot you are.


Perhaps one should point out all the flaws of the left which joether is undoubtedly responsible for.


You mean like a Nazi leading the GOP Polls without showing who the Nazi is or any direct link to them?



If you need links to show it, it stating that you are to lazy to keep up with your civil duties as a US Citizen.....

Its your duty (according to the founding fathers) to not only keep tabs on what your government is doing (or not doing), as well as those running for public office. There are many links on the net right now about the connection between Mr. Trump ad Nazis. Given your on the internet, it shouldn't be tough to operate a search engine. You do know how to google, right? Of course you do! You have done it in the past.

So really, you have no excuses to being uninformed.....

Seems it is just one Gov that likens Trump to the Nazi. So in your eyes, he is it appears. Proof please. Proof positive. And why aren't the Democrats and other Republicans exploiting this?




Kirata -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/6/2015 2:05:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: joether

There are many links on the net right now about the connection between Mr. Trump ad Nazis.

Here's one!

K.




thompsonx -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/7/2015 4:17:39 PM)


ORIGINAL: Greta75

ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Who would those innocents be?I am not unfamiliar with the origins of singapore but it appears that you are...or was that just a little slip of the lip?[8|]


How is it possible you are not familiar with the origins of Singapore when you were the self-proclaimed expert of our country?


You are the only one to describe me as an expert on singapore.


Our ruling party reach their status in a manner where it would never be acceptable in the US.

Ours was achieved through force of arms.


End justifies the means way. Many oppositions who got in their way were simply arrested without trial and thrown in jail for life. Perhaps if the result of all, was majority people suffering like North Korea.

Please do tell us of your last trip to n. korea.[8|]


Then we would be frown upon. But the ruling party simply wanted to implemented it's plans undisrupted, so fast progress happens. We couldn't have achieve all the things the tiny country achieved in a mere 50 years, from a swamp land of poverty

Once again you exhibit your total ignorance of singapore and it's history.
Singapore was known to ptolemy who was born about a hundred years after the death of christ. The chinese have a written record of dating from the third century ad. The mongol (yuan) dynasty sent trade emmisarys there in the 13 hundreds. The brits get there in the early 19th century and develope a huge trade center.
Are you really too stupid to look this shit up?





and no natural resources


Being a deep water port in the center of trade rout is clearly a natural recource.

and racial tension and riots, to the harmony, low jobless rate, low crime and low poverty rate, IF we had two parties constantly bickering and blocking each other from getting anything done.

According to google there are four parties in singapore.

Singapore is an example of what happens if the dictator wasn't all about himself and actually plans and visions that will genuinely benefit majority of his people. Of course this could have gone the other way and turn out really bad, pros and cons. We were lucky.

We used to be slummy just like this, still many people lived in such conditions in the 60's:

What percentage of the total is this "many" you speak of?



Now we are this, modern, comfortable:

With a 40% tax rate that the govt steals from the people...how kewel.[8|]




Greta75 -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/7/2015 6:22:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Please do tell us of your last trip to n. korea.[8|]

I have several friends who have been there. North Korea tourism is a big thing now. But the fact that, to visit North Korea, you must be monitored and accompanied at all times by a Government assigned "tourist guide" who is more like your minder, and you cannot choose your itinerary on what you want to see or do, there is standard itinerary that you must follow and many areas of North Korea you are not allowed to go to, tells me they got a gazillion things to hide from tourists. Now anybody who visits Singapore, can go about free and easy, where-ever they want. We got nothing to hide. And things that are not acceptable, we are open about it and why we do it and we have the positive results to show. Like banning of gum sales or caning.
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Once again you exhibit your total ignorance of singapore and it's history.
Singapore was known to ptolemy who was born about a hundred years after the death of christ. The chinese have a written record of dating from the third century ad. The mongol (yuan) dynasty sent trade emmisarys there in the 13 hundreds. The brits get there in the early 19th century and develope a huge trade center.
Are you really too stupid to look this shit up?

I am only telling you history through our independence. We are only 50 yrs old since independence. Our schools don't really care about the history before Singapore's independence, only how it achieved independence from the British and there on.
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According to google there are four parties in singapore.

There are 100 over seats in parliament and only 6 seats are opposition. The other 3 parties have no power to change or oppose anything, they get outvoted every time. We have more than 3 parties though, just many don't even have a seat in parliament.
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What percentage of the total is this "many" you speak of?

No idea what you are asking here? How many people used to live in Kampong? It definitely went from 100% to 0% now. Singapore used to be nothing but a fishing village. I simply chose that picture in the 60's to show an example of what the whole country used to live in before modernization. But that picture was already close to the 70's, so we have already started building flats to replace all the kampongs.
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With a 40% tax rate that the govt steals from the people...how kewel.[8|]

40% tax rate? Where did you get this information from? 60% do not even pay income tax. And even the richest pay only 20%, but most are paying under 10%.
I hope you aren't calling our CPF tax, because that money is 100% refundable and it grows at a guaranteed 2.5% interest rate, so it would be returned to us in profit. That's probably where your 40% comes from. That's for our retirement. And on top of that, you can use that money to pay for mortgage, for your hospitalisation bills and for education, or you can invest them if 2.5% guaranteed is too low and you are happy to take higher risks. I wouldn't call that taxes.
An American told me once, that he loves our CPF system, it's much better than social security because you are 100% guaranteed all your money back, whereas in social security, you don't even know if you can get back what you have put in.




thompsonx -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/7/2015 7:29:43 PM)


ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Please do tell us of your last trip to n. korea.[8|]

I have several friends who have been there.

So you have no first hand knowledge...which was my point.



North Korea tourism is a big thing now. But the fact that, to visit North Korea, you must be monitored and accompanied at all times by a Government assigned "tourist guide" who is more like your minder, and you cannot choose your itinerary on what you want to see or do, there is standard itinerary that you must follow and many areas of North Korea you are not allowed to go to, tells me they got a gazillion things to hide from tourists.

There are many places in the usa that even citizens may not go.


Once again you exhibit your total ignorance of singapore and it's history.
Singapore was known to ptolemy who was born about a hundred years after the death of christ. The chinese have a written record of dating from the third century ad. The mongol (yuan) dynasty sent trade emmisarys there in the 13 hundreds. The brits get there in the early 19th century and develope a huge trade center.
Are you really too stupid to look this shit up?



What percentage of the total is this "many" you speak of?

Singapore used to be nothing but a fishing village.

According to the links I provided that has not been true for more than 2000 years.


With a 40% tax rate that the govt steals from the people...how kewel.[8|]

40% tax rate? Where did you get this information from? 60% do not even pay income tax. And even the richest pay only 20%, but most are paying under 10%.
I hope you aren't calling our CPF tax, because that money is 100% refundable and it grows at a guaranteed 2.5% interest rate, so it would be returned to us in profit. That's probably where your 40% comes from.

That is exactly what I am speaking of. Singaporeans have no choice about having the 40% witheld. They may not access that money.


An American told me once, that he loves our CPF system, it's much better than social security because you are 100% guaranteed all your money back, whereas in social security, you don't even know if you can get back what you have put in.

I have been drawing s/s for 6 years and got all of my money back in the first three years. It is based on how much you put in at which rate and for how long...this determines how much you get back monthly. Those who can do arithmetic and understand the system know how this is done...those who cant and dont wont.




Greta75 -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/7/2015 7:42:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
There are many places in the usa that even citizens may not go.

Like where? Not as many as North Korea, which is practically 90% of their country.
In Singapore, I've sneaked into restricted areas, which are mostly live firing military training grounds. And if I get caught, I get fine up to $1000, that's about it. But usually even if I bump into military, they are quite chill and offer me water wondering what a girl is doing wandering out there. Military training forests has the best hiking locations as they use it for their training. So I like going in there for my work outs. I think North Korea will chop my head off if I entered their military restricted zone. Well probably shoot me upon sight.
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That is exactly what I am speaking of. Singaporeans have no choice about having the 40% witheld. They may not access that money.

Yes, but it's fully refundable, even if they don't see a cent of that money, their children will as inheritance, so it ain't taxes. It's forced retirement funds. Part of our Nanny State solutions for people to have money in their old age. I don't deny we are a Nanny State, the government even butts it's business into who you should marry. Like having parents as government. It worked for us.
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I have been drawing s/s for 6 years and got all of my money back in the first three years. It is based on how much you put in at which rate and for how long...this determines how much you get back monthly. Those who can do arithmetic and understand the system know how this is done...those who cant and dont wont.

You belong to the older generation who have benefited from social security. My friend is in his 30's. His worried when he gets to your age, all the money will be gone. And it sounds like it could be a reality. Presidential Candidates even brought this issue up, on how to make sure social security could honour their pay outs in the future when time comes. Apparently, it's a problem right now.




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