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Granted, gun violence remains low in the U.K., and officers have less of a need to fight fire with fire, the BBC reports.

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ORIGINAL: ifmaz

Why do you think there is such a 'need' to label things as terrorist acts, to further expand the surveillance state? Does anyone in the UK ask what good the surveillance is doing after the likes of France and now this?

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ORIGINAL: ifmaz

Why do you think there is such a 'need' to label things as terrorist acts, to further expand the surveillance state? Does anyone in the UK ask what good the surveillance is doing after the likes of France and now this?

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So, the idea that there are a group of people out there who are determined to kill us, is not one that people tend to believe.

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: ifmaz

Why do you think there is such a 'need' to label things as terrorist acts, to further expand the surveillance state? Does anyone in the UK ask what good the surveillance is doing after the likes of France and now this?

I think you'll find that people in England are sceptical of grand ideas and always have been.

So, the idea that there are a group of people out there who are determined to kill us, is not one that people tend to believe.

If you're after something tangible to back this up, look at our response to the London bombings.

There was no mass of public opinion that felt a country somewhere in the world needed to be punished on the back of the actions of four lunatics.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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ORIGINAL: ifmaz

Why do you think there is such a 'need' to label things as terrorist acts, to further expand the surveillance state? Does anyone in the UK ask what good the surveillance is doing after the likes of France and now this?

Re the first: good question. Something I ponder on myself. Re the second: yes, surveillance is certainly a big issue here. However, I have a feeling that this will turn out to be one of those cases in which no amount of surveillance would have been much use. We shall have to wait till the facts come in, though.

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Maybe they should stop attacking Syria.

I mean it. Go to Google and ask it how many Muslims there are in the world. How many Arabic. You can't fucking kill them fast enough so you better make friends, if possible. At least unmake enemies. Or try.

There is a Canadian forum, some of them do not like Canada supporting the US in this bullshit because they (rightly) believe it will make them targets. England wants to be a target, well if you had guns maybe you could have a real election. Maybe, we got them and we don't have real elections here.

Get rid of these fucking oil company employees. That is who is running these countries, oil company reps. No, oil company OPERATIVES. Like little spies.

Shit like this is like I described about the guns in the US. See, you cannot just go get a brain scanner and figure out who is ready to do something. (though they have tried, biometric scanning) These people are everywhere. Say we decide it is time for this regime to go. You do NOT walk up to the whitehouse and start shooting. What you do is pick them off in the street. Make it so the cops will not get out of their cars. City inspectors and bill collectors cannot do their job. Then in comes the military and the nice thing about that is some of them will desert and come to our side, and the others can be neutralized as well. They are not going to nuke their own people. In fact they will not nuke anywhere with significant natural resources. (ever notice that ?) And tear gas only has so much effectiveness. And even brown note cannons only do so much.

There are simply too many of us. We CAN fuck them up bad enough they'll say uncle.

And this is right where the Muslims are.

What's more, this kind of shit it what the PTB want. They want you scared enough to accept their protection. Sound familiar ? Know why you don't hear about the supposed "mafia" anymore ? They moved in to government. So they pit the largest contingent on the planet against our People, and then sell us on the idea of giving up freedom and privacy.

And it is all for the almighty buck. And for some, megalomania, the power itself. they want to dictate for no other reason than to dictate. How many laws do we have ?

Fuck all this shit, if I liked fish I would move to Gilligan's island.

T^T

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LONDON, Dec 5 (Reuters) - A man with a knife stabbed another in an east London metro station on Saturday evening, reportedly screaming "this is for Syria," before police used a stun gun on the attacker and detained him.
"We are treating this as a terrorist incident," Richard Walton, who leads the London police's Counter Terrorism Command, said in a statement.
Police were called to reports of a number of people stabbed at the Leytonstone Underground station in east London and a man threatening other people with a knife. One man was seriously injured and two sustained minor injuries, police said.
London's Evening Standard newspaper said the attacker had screamed "this is for Syria." A police spokesman declined to comment on the report about Syria.
Britain is on its second-highest alert level of "severe," meaning a militant attack is considered highly likely. This is mainly due to the threat the authorities say is posed by Islamic State militants in Syria and Iraq and their encouragement of supporters to carry out attacks in their homelands.
British lawmakers approved the bombing of Islamic State targets in Syria on Wednesday. Britain's air force has since carried out two bombing raids.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/three-injured-in-knife-attack-terror-incident-in-london-metro_56636ccde4b072e9d1c675ca


But this is the real tragic bit in my opinion

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/london-police-knife-wielding-suspect_56636dc5e4b08e945fefcacd

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Where the hell were all the soccer fans when they are needed?