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Enough Trump. Whom on the right do/would/might you support for President (who's running)?

Let's assume that the Trump thing dies down. Let's not assume everyone on the right supports the "Nazi."

So whom do/would/might you support for President? What are their merits?

Someone who's actually running, of course.






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RE: Enough Trump. Who on the right do/would/might you ... - 12/6/2015 6:22:06 AM   
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Good op, I'm genuinely curious to know.

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RE: Enough Trump. Who on the right do/would/might you ... - 12/6/2015 6:27:31 AM   
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Trump is the best among them.

Nobody else comes close. The rest got nothing on Clinton. Anybody else on there, mine as well just give Clinton the walkover. Hardcore conservatives will never vote Clinton anyway, but some people who are fiscally conservative and socially liberal, and can't relate totally to either parties may vote Trump because Trump is kinda in the middle too. His no religious nut.

I believe Trump has the strongest chance of winning.

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RE: Enough Trump. Who on the right do/would/might you ... - 12/6/2015 6:45:54 AM   
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Enough Trump. Whom on the right do/would/might you support for President (who's running)?
Let's assume that the Trump thing dies down. Let's not assume everyone on the right supports the "Nazi."
So whom do/would/might you support for President? What are their merits?
Someone who's actually running, of course.


I'm not a Republican, so I can't vote in the primaries. I haven't been paying too much attention outside of here. It won't matter to me who's running until they nominate their candidate. At that point, I'll start looking.

I won't vote for Clinton or Sanders. I won't vote for Trump, either. If there were only two options (Clinton/Sanders or Trump), I'd likely boycott the election. I'm tired of voting "against" a candidate. I'm not going to vote unless I can actually vote "for" a candidate I actually support.


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RE: Enough Trump. Who on the right do/would/might you ... - 12/6/2015 9:28:29 AM   
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quote:

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Enough Trump. Whom on the right do/would/might you support for President (who's running)?
Let's assume that the Trump thing dies down. Let's not assume everyone on the right supports the "Nazi."
So whom do/would/might you support for President? What are their merits?
Someone who's actually running, of course.


I'm not a Republican, so I can't vote in the primaries. I haven't been paying too much attention outside of here. It won't matter to me who's running until they nominate their candidate. At that point, I'll start looking.

I won't vote for Clinton or Sanders. I won't vote for Trump, either. If there were only two options (Clinton/Sanders or Trump), I'd likely boycott the election. I'm tired of voting "against" a candidate. I'm not going to vote unless I can actually vote "for" a candidate I actually support.


First calling Trump a Nazi is only something a far left kool aid drinker would do.
Second I would, if it came down to it vote for Trump over either of the Dems, not because I think he would be such a good choice but because when you refuse to vote for the lesser evil you often get the greater one.
1 Cruz
2 Rubio
3 Fiorina
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RE: Enough Trump. Who on the right do/would/might you ... - 12/6/2015 9:44:44 AM   
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Enough Trump. Whom on the right do/would/might you support for President (who's running)?
Let's assume that the Trump thing dies down. Let's not assume everyone on the right supports the "Nazi."
So whom do/would/might you support for President? What are their merits?
Someone who's actually running, of course.


I'm not a Republican, so I can't vote in the primaries. I haven't been paying too much attention outside of here. It won't matter to me who's running until they nominate their candidate. At that point, I'll start looking.

I won't vote for Clinton or Sanders. I won't vote for Trump, either. If there were only two options (Clinton/Sanders or Trump), I'd likely boycott the election. I'm tired of voting "against" a candidate. I'm not going to vote unless I can actually vote "for" a candidate I actually support.



If you decide not to vote for the two main parties, consider a third party.

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RE: Enough Trump. Who on the right do/would/might you ... - 12/6/2015 10:00:49 AM   
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[FR]

I seem to recall in the older days, there was this dude Nader from Green Party that was quite popular for people who are even more Lib than Dems. But these days, it seems, you never hear about any other parties.

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RE: Enough Trump. Who on the right do/would/might you ... - 12/6/2015 10:06:14 AM   
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I'm not a Republican, so I can't vote in the primaries. I haven't been paying too much attention outside of here. It won't matter to me who's running until they nominate their candidate. At that point, I'll start looking.
I won't vote for Clinton or Sanders. I won't vote for Trump, either. If there were only two options (Clinton/Sanders or Trump), I'd likely boycott the election. I'm tired of voting "against" a candidate. I'm not going to vote unless I can actually vote "for" a candidate I actually support.

If you decide not to vote for the two main parties, consider a third party.


If a third party puts up a candidate I actually support, that candidate will get my vote.


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RE: Enough Trump. Who on the right do/would/might you ... - 12/6/2015 10:07:27 AM   
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[FR]

I seem to recall in the older days, there was this dude Nader from Green Party that was quite popular for people who are even more Lib than Dems. But these days, it seems, you never hear about any other parties.


Completely agree, I think the whole two party system in the US is dangerous, since both candidates are often paid for by the same donors.

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RE: Enough Trump. Who on the right do/would/might you ... - 12/6/2015 10:49:16 AM   
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First calling Trump a Nazi is only something a far left kool aid drinker would do.


First mentioning "Nazi" in quotes, referring to the use in other threads, including the title, should be something any basic reader can comprehend, including that the OP indicated moving past that language.

Maybe try night school.

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RE: Enough Trump. Who on the right do/would/might you ... - 12/6/2015 10:52:34 AM   
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Looking at the current 2016 GOP candidates’ field over the past several months, disregarding the Trump factor, is Ted Cruz. One key statement during the presidential debate, “How about talking substantive issues that American’s are concerned about”. Cruz’s stance on limited government, tax reform, congressional accountability, and a safer America.

Cruz’s platform points of shrinking the government by any means necessary including agencies that are not need and unconstitutional. Hold congress accountable for Balanced Budget requiring a majority vote for legislation that have expensive price tags that cause national debt increases. Instituting internal controls that monitor federal spending and cut the fat and fraud.

Tax reform making the tax code understandable to all American’s and closing loop holes and change import goods tariffs. Introduction of a flat tax, and ending political targeting.

A safer America. Upholding the Constitution and recently Cruz’s stance on national security and 2nd Amendment rights.
Cruz has a proven track record of taking on the DC machine. I would not rule out the scenario of seeing a Trump/Cruz or Cruz/Trump ticket taking on Clinton in 2016.

The main issues that I am most concerned with that I have not seen anything of substance from any of the GOP front runners are social security reform,the economy, deficit reduction and comprehensive foreign policy. At is point it seems they are all dancing around these issues in high level generalizations.





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RE: Enough Trump. Who on the right do/would/might you ... - 12/6/2015 10:56:29 AM   
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Fiorina/Carson.

I have to admit that Rubio is impressing the hell out of me, but the idea of electing an anchor baby just bothers me.



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RE: Enough Trump. Who on the right do/would/might you ... - 12/6/2015 11:13:18 AM   
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Fiorina/Carson.

I have to admit that Rubio is impressing the hell out of me, but the idea of electing an anchor baby just bothers me.



Michael



Have to admit Rubio was also impressive as of late, but then I had concern about his stance on refugees, common core education, Jeb anchoring, and his role in the Gang of 8.

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RE: Enough Trump. Who on the right do/would/might you ... - 12/6/2015 3:13:04 PM   
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Clinton or Sanders.

Clinton has a huge amount of foreign policy experience. She is the only candidate (on the right or left) to whom America's adversaries do not want as the next US President. Weeks/months ago, the diplomats of Iran basically laughed at all the candidates on the GOP/TP side for their handling of international affairs regarding a certain treaty. Mrs. Clinton is someone to whom Mr. Putin will not fuck with. Even those in China, North Korea, and parts of the Middle East (beyond Iran) do not seem to happy of the idea of President Clinton doing business with them.

Clinton has staged herself more as a moderate than a liberal. This has upset/angered the liberal base on some issues. Yet, to win the White House, the further liberal or conservative one is, the less likely they are to win, if someone more 'middle of the road' is also running. As it stands now, Mrs. Clinton only has to convince 5% of the Electoral College to vote in her favor. Compare that with her GOP rival trailing her by 25-35%; that is a huge amount of ground they have to cover in the general election run.

Clinton will more than likely keep the ACA active if not add to it. The ACA has done quite a number of good things for US Citizens. In addition to supporting the Iran Treaty created under the Obama Administration. More than likely sharing a strong stance on more firearm controls while not reducing taxes if for any other reason but to place additional funds to paying down the large debt this nation 'owns'.

I believe a Clinton/Sanders ticket would be a 'shoo-in' for most voters. They get a moderate and liberal whom have good ideas, plenty of experience, and appeal to the majority of Americans right now.

Mr. Sanders is the liberal pick in the DNC nomination process. His messages and views resonate at all age levels (Clinton attracts older voters more than younger ones). In addition the man has values and beliefs that are pretty solid and good natured. He dislikes how Wall Street and the Industrious Military Complex operates (for those that understand those two concepts in the nation). He would like to see a greater expansion on healthcare, immigration, infrastructure, and dealing with te national debt directly rather than 'placing head in ass' which the GOP/TP seems 'fine' to perform.

Mr. Sanders is rather light on foreign policy experience compared to Mrs. Clinton. Not 100% confident on how he would deal with any number of issues that could rise in the future. As far as I can tell, Mr. Putin does not consider Mr. Sanders a real threat to Mrs. Clinton's bid for the White House. So it is hard to determine his and his nation's viewpoint there. Likewise, how America's adversaries will handle Mr. Sanders is equally not known.

But on social/domestic issues, Mr. Sander has many very good ideas. Most of them are not only 'given a few paragraphs of understanding' but rather fleshed out in depth.

Lets also remember, when this nation has had good times since the start of the 90's, a Democrat was in the White House!

Mr. Trump as I've made clear is a Nazi. Most of those running for the White House on the GOP/TP ticket are creeping towards that direction. Mr. Cruz has stated a willingness to shut down the whole of the US Government, unless his demands are met (i.e. spoiled rich kid throwing a temper tantrum.......an we want to give him nuclear launch codes?). Mr. Carson is a very intelligent and studied individual when it comes to medicine. But is politics are shit! He's currently pandering to the pseudo christians to make gains on Mr. Trump's lead. He is at a 21 point deficit against Mr. Trump according to the latest CNN/ORCA poll. The man reminds me of Former President George W. Bush and former Vice President Dan Quayle.....put together.

A few weeks ago, Mr. Huckbee, Mr. Jindal (whom is no longer running) and Mr. Cruz sat in on a lecture by one Rick Swanson. Within this lecture, Mr. Swanson advocating the rounding up and extermination of millions of US Citizens on the grounds they are homosexual. That none of these three protested publically or rose and walked out the door in disgust; shows how 'OK' they are with the US Government rounding up US Citizens with the intention of killing them. Isn't that what the Nazis did? Oh yes, they did....

Overall certain conditions can play to one party or another's favor in the time between now and the election. If the economy stays healthy and good, the Democrats will have a much easier time. If one party's nominee states something REALLY outlandish or offensive; the other party will see a boost in their chances. Mr. Romney famously/infamously stated he hated 47% of Americans. That 47% along with a dozen more percentage points vote Mr. Obama into a second term. If this nation experiences more deadly mass shootings; it will help Democrats out. If Republicans can put together a well laid out immigration/border/port security plan; they could gain leverage on the overall public in the election.

In closing what will really decided whom is in the White House is a few 'swing stages' and about 30-35% of total register voters. Its really sad that places like Texas, Massachusetts, Alaska, Hawaii, and other solid red/blue states will not see much action from candidates. Likewise, that we have less and less people performing their civil duty is very disheartening. Low voter turnout does have consequences going forward. Encourage those around you to vote. Regardless of how/who they vote.


The rest of the pack is not any better or any more likely of obtaining the GOP's nomination. If Mr. Cruz does not obtain the GOP's, he'll get the Tea Party's nomination. As I see the whole of GOP/TP candidates they do one good thing for the nation: Give us plenty of examples of whom.....NOT.....to vote into public service on behalf of the nation!

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RE: Enough Trump. Who on the right do/would/might you ... - 12/6/2015 3:52:19 PM   
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Clinton or Sanders.

Clinton has a huge amount of foreign policy experience. She is the only candidate (on the right or left) to whom America's adversaries do not want as the next US President. Weeks/months ago, the diplomats of Iran basically laughed at all the candidates on the GOP/TP side for their handling of international affairs regarding a certain treaty. Mrs. Clinton is someone to whom Mr. Putin will not fuck with. Even those in China, North Korea, and parts of the Middle East (beyond Iran) do not seem to happy of the idea of President Clinton doing business with them.

Clinton has staged herself more as a moderate than a liberal. This has upset/angered the liberal base on some issues. Yet, to win the White House, the further liberal or conservative one is, the less likely they are to win, if someone more 'middle of the road' is also running. As it stands now, Mrs. Clinton only has to convince 5% of the Electoral College to vote in her favor. Compare that with her GOP rival trailing her by 25-35%; that is a huge amount of ground they have to cover in the general election run.

Clinton will more than likely keep the ACA active if not add to it. The ACA has done quite a number of good things for US Citizens. In addition to supporting the Iran Treaty created under the Obama Administration. More than likely sharing a strong stance on more firearm controls while not reducing taxes if for any other reason but to place additional funds to paying down the large debt this nation 'owns'.

I believe a Clinton/Sanders ticket would be a 'shoo-in' for most voters. They get a moderate and liberal whom have good ideas, plenty of experience, and appeal to the majority of Americans right now.

Mr. Sanders is the liberal pick in the DNC nomination process. His messages and views resonate at all age levels (Clinton attracts older voters more than younger ones). In addition the man has values and beliefs that are pretty solid and good natured. He dislikes how Wall Street and the Industrious Military Complex operates (for those that understand those two concepts in the nation). He would like to see a greater expansion on healthcare, immigration, infrastructure, and dealing with te national debt directly rather than 'placing head in ass' which the GOP/TP seems 'fine' to perform.

Mr. Sanders is rather light on foreign policy experience compared to Mrs. Clinton. Not 100% confident on how he would deal with any number of issues that could rise in the future. As far as I can tell, Mr. Putin does not consider Mr. Sanders a real threat to Mrs. Clinton's bid for the White House. So it is hard to determine his and his nation's viewpoint there. Likewise, how America's adversaries will handle Mr. Sanders is equally not known.

But on social/domestic issues, Mr. Sander has many very good ideas. Most of them are not only 'given a few paragraphs of understanding' but rather fleshed out in depth.

Lets also remember, when this nation has had good times since the start of the 90's, a Democrat was in the White House!

Mr. Trump as I've made clear is a Nazi. Most of those running for the White House on the GOP/TP ticket are creeping towards that direction. Mr. Cruz has stated a willingness to shut down the whole of the US Government, unless his demands are met (i.e. spoiled rich kid throwing a temper tantrum.......an we want to give him nuclear launch codes?). Mr. Carson is a very intelligent and studied individual when it comes to medicine. But is politics are shit! He's currently pandering to the pseudo christians to make gains on Mr. Trump's lead. He is at a 21 point deficit against Mr. Trump according to the latest CNN/ORCA poll. The man reminds me of Former President George W. Bush and former Vice President Dan Quayle.....put together.

A few weeks ago, Mr. Huckbee, Mr. Jindal (whom is no longer running) and Mr. Cruz sat in on a lecture by one Rick Swanson. Within this lecture, Mr. Swanson advocating the rounding up and extermination of millions of US Citizens on the grounds they are homosexual. That none of these three protested publically or rose and walked out the door in disgust; shows how 'OK' they are with the US Government rounding up US Citizens with the intention of killing them. Isn't that what the Nazis did? Oh yes, they did....

Overall certain conditions can play to one party or another's favor in the time between now and the election. If the economy stays healthy and good, the Democrats will have a much easier time. If one party's nominee states something REALLY outlandish or offensive; the other party will see a boost in their chances. Mr. Romney famously/infamously stated he hated 47% of Americans. That 47% along with a dozen more percentage points vote Mr. Obama into a second term. If this nation experiences more deadly mass shootings; it will help Democrats out. If Republicans can put together a well laid out immigration/border/port security plan; they could gain leverage on the overall public in the election.

In closing what will really decided whom is in the White House is a few 'swing stages' and about 30-35% of total register voters. Its really sad that places like Texas, Massachusetts, Alaska, Hawaii, and other solid red/blue states will not see much action from candidates. Likewise, that we have less and less people performing their civil duty is very disheartening. Low voter turnout does have consequences going forward. Encourage those around you to vote. Regardless of how/who they vote.


The rest of the pack is not any better or any more likely of obtaining the GOP's nomination. If Mr. Cruz does not obtain the GOP's, he'll get the Tea Party's nomination. As I see the whole of GOP/TP candidates they do one good thing for the nation: Give us plenty of examples of whom.....NOT.....to vote into public service on behalf of the nation!

Clinton/Sanders, a crook and a socialist, both with tired worn out ideas that have been disproved and rejected.
Might as well elect a couple of chimps.

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RE: Enough Trump. Who on the right do/would/might you ... - 12/6/2015 5:02:45 PM   
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I'm tired of high deductible health insurance. The problem with the ACA is it doesn't help low income full-time workers obtain affordable health insurance. If the employer offers health insurance (a requirement because of the employer mandate), low income full-time workers are ineligible for subsidies, regardless of income. The result is people who are only making $10/hr are stuck with $5,000 deductibles. President Obama accused Mitt Romney of promoting sending jobs overseas when he was running for re-election, yet now he's trying to push through another free trade deal known as the Trans Pacific Partnership or TPP. WTF!! I'm voting for Bernie Sanders because he's the only candidate for single-payer health care and against free trade.

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RE: Enough Trump. Who on the right do/would/might you ... - 12/6/2015 5:08:34 PM   
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Clinton or Sanders.


Glad you followed the OP's questioning...


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RE: Enough Trump. Who on the right do/would/might you ... - 12/6/2015 6:05:45 PM   
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BamaD wrote "A few weeks ago, Mr. Huckbee, Mr. Jindal (whom is no longer running) and Mr. Cruz sat in on a lecture by one Rick Swanson. Within this lecture, Mr. Swanson advocating the rounding up and extermination of millions of US Citizens on the grounds they are homosexual. That none of these three protested publicaly or rose and walked out the door in disgust; shows how 'OK' they are with the US Government rounding up US Citizens with the intention of killing them. Isn't that what the Nazis did? Oh yes, they did.... ".

As a valid discussion point referenced the Swanson endorsement that was dismissed by Cruz. The New York Times called Swanson a " a religious wombat that is an embarrassing infringe on American politics". The hot endorsement sought is the Iowa politicians at this point.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/16/opinion/campaign-stops/ted-cruz-and-the-anti-gay-pastor.html?_r=0


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RE: Enough Trump. Who on the right do/would/might you ... - 12/6/2015 6:25:54 PM   
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Looking at the current 2016 GOP candidates’ field over the past several months, disregarding the Trump factor, is Ted Cruz. One key statement during the presidential debate, “How about talking substantive issues that American’s are concerned about”. Cruz’s stance on limited government, tax reform, congressional accountability, and a safer America.

Cruz’s platform points of shrinking the government by any means necessary including agencies that are not need and unconstitutional. Hold congress accountable for Balanced Budget requiring a majority vote for legislation that have expensive price tags that cause national debt increases. Instituting internal controls that monitor federal spending and cut the fat and fraud.

Tax reform making the tax code understandable to all American’s and closing loop holes and change import goods tariffs. Introduction of a flat tax, and ending political targeting.

A safer America. Upholding the Constitution and recently Cruz’s stance on national security and 2nd Amendment rights.
Cruz has a proven track record of taking on the DC machine. I would not rule out the scenario of seeing a Trump/Cruz or Cruz/Trump ticket taking on Clinton in 2016.

The main issues that I am most concerned with that I have not seen anything of substance from any of the GOP front runners are social security reform,the economy, deficit reduction and comprehensive foreign policy. At is point it seems they are all dancing around these issues in high level generalizations.


Cruz ?

Princeton study/roommate: "I would pick a name out of the phone book over Cruz as president."
Boehner fromer speaker: Asked what he thought of Cruz, showed his middle finger.
Denied a senate (repub) procedural vote: McCain, I've never seen that ever, in all of my years here.

Geo. W. Bush, after working as hard as anybody (almost all by himself) to get W elected, sent Cruz to the Siberia of the FTC.

Even many repubs hate, yes...hate the guy and many on the right say would make the worse possible nominee.

Easy to put out the your typical rhetorical 'high level' generalities. How to balance the budget ? How to make govt. more responsible ?

Since when have the repubs ever actually while in office...pursued limited govt. or fiscal responsibility ?

Social Security is not in need of reform. [It] is owed $2.5-$3 trillion (various sources) by a congress that 'stole' the surplus.

There have been 60 vote majorities in the senate for laws, that...never became law. How do simple majorities change anything ?

Cruz's tax 'reform' includes tax cuts. Who do you tax...the 51% of all taxpayers that are making no more than $30,000/yr ?

Constitutionality ? How about wholesale electronic surveillance of American citizens that hasn't prevented anything ? Doing away with the fed ? Finally closing GITMO ? Sending in drones (or people for all we know) to kill American citizens without due process ?

As for the OP as I've written a couple of times, if I vote repub...John Kasich.

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RE: Enough Trump. Who on the right do/would/might you ... - 12/6/2015 7:46:21 PM   
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BamaD wrote "A few weeks ago, Mr. Huckbee, Mr. Jindal (whom is no longer running) and Mr. Cruz sat in on a lecture by one Rick Swanson. Within this lecture, Mr. Swanson advocating the rounding up and extermination of millions of US Citizens on the grounds they are homosexual. That none of these three protested publicaly or rose and walked out the door in disgust; shows how 'OK' they are with the US Government rounding up US Citizens with the intention of killing them. Isn't that what the Nazis did? Oh yes, they did.... ".

As a valid discussion point referenced the Swanson endorsement that was dismissed by Cruz. The New York Times called Swanson a " a religious wombat that is an embarrassing infringe on American politics". The hot endorsement sought is the Iowa politicians at this point.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/16/opinion/campaign-stops/ted-cruz-and-the-anti-gay-pastor.html?_r=0


You are confused, I wrote no such thing.

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