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BamaD -> RE: Enough Trump. Who on the right do/would/might you support for President (who's running)? (12/6/2015 3:52:19 PM)
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ORIGINAL: joether
Clinton or Sanders.
Clinton has a huge amount of foreign policy experience. She is the only candidate (on the right or left) to whom America's adversaries do not want as the next US President. Weeks/months ago, the diplomats of Iran basically laughed at all the candidates on the GOP/TP side for their handling of international affairs regarding a certain treaty. Mrs. Clinton is someone to whom Mr. Putin will not fuck with. Even those in China, North Korea, and parts of the Middle East (beyond Iran) do not seem to happy of the idea of President Clinton doing business with them.
Clinton has staged herself more as a moderate than a liberal. This has upset/angered the liberal base on some issues. Yet, to win the White House, the further liberal or conservative one is, the less likely they are to win, if someone more 'middle of the road' is also running. As it stands now, Mrs. Clinton only has to convince 5% of the Electoral College to vote in her favor. Compare that with her GOP rival trailing her by 25-35%; that is a huge amount of ground they have to cover in the general election run.
Clinton will more than likely keep the ACA active if not add to it. The ACA has done quite a number of good things for US Citizens. In addition to supporting the Iran Treaty created under the Obama Administration. More than likely sharing a strong stance on more firearm controls while not reducing taxes if for any other reason but to place additional funds to paying down the large debt this nation 'owns'.
I believe a Clinton/Sanders ticket would be a 'shoo-in' for most voters. They get a moderate and liberal whom have good ideas, plenty of experience, and appeal to the majority of Americans right now.
Mr. Sanders is the liberal pick in the DNC nomination process. His messages and views resonate at all age levels (Clinton attracts older voters more than younger ones). In addition the man has values and beliefs that are pretty solid and good natured. He dislikes how Wall Street and the Industrious Military Complex operates (for those that understand those two concepts in the nation). He would like to see a greater expansion on healthcare, immigration, infrastructure, and dealing with te national debt directly rather than 'placing head in ass' which the GOP/TP seems 'fine' to perform.
Mr. Sanders is rather light on foreign policy experience compared to Mrs. Clinton. Not 100% confident on how he would deal with any number of issues that could rise in the future. As far as I can tell, Mr. Putin does not consider Mr. Sanders a real threat to Mrs. Clinton's bid for the White House. So it is hard to determine his and his nation's viewpoint there. Likewise, how America's adversaries will handle Mr. Sanders is equally not known.
But on social/domestic issues, Mr. Sander has many very good ideas. Most of them are not only 'given a few paragraphs of understanding' but rather fleshed out in depth.
Lets also remember, when this nation has had good times since the start of the 90's, a Democrat was in the White House!
Mr. Trump as I've made clear is a Nazi. Most of those running for the White House on the GOP/TP ticket are creeping towards that direction. Mr. Cruz has stated a willingness to shut down the whole of the US Government, unless his demands are met (i.e. spoiled rich kid throwing a temper tantrum.......an we want to give him nuclear launch codes?). Mr. Carson is a very intelligent and studied individual when it comes to medicine. But is politics are shit! He's currently pandering to the pseudo christians to make gains on Mr. Trump's lead. He is at a 21 point deficit against Mr. Trump according to the latest CNN/ORCA poll. The man reminds me of Former President George W. Bush and former Vice President Dan Quayle.....put together.
A few weeks ago, Mr. Huckbee, Mr. Jindal (whom is no longer running) and Mr. Cruz sat in on a lecture by one Rick Swanson. Within this lecture, Mr. Swanson advocating the rounding up and extermination of millions of US Citizens on the grounds they are homosexual. That none of these three protested publically or rose and walked out the door in disgust; shows how 'OK' they are with the US Government rounding up US Citizens with the intention of killing them. Isn't that what the Nazis did? Oh yes, they did....
Overall certain conditions can play to one party or another's favor in the time between now and the election. If the economy stays healthy and good, the Democrats will have a much easier time. If one party's nominee states something REALLY outlandish or offensive; the other party will see a boost in their chances. Mr. Romney famously/infamously stated he hated 47% of Americans. That 47% along with a dozen more percentage points vote Mr. Obama into a second term. If this nation experiences more deadly mass shootings; it will help Democrats out. If Republicans can put together a well laid out immigration/border/port security plan; they could gain leverage on the overall public in the election.
In closing what will really decided whom is in the White House is a few 'swing stages' and about 30-35% of total register voters. Its really sad that places like Texas, Massachusetts, Alaska, Hawaii, and other solid red/blue states will not see much action from candidates. Likewise, that we have less and less people performing their civil duty is very disheartening. Low voter turnout does have consequences going forward. Encourage those around you to vote. Regardless of how/who they vote.
The rest of the pack is not any better or any more likely of obtaining the GOP's nomination. If Mr. Cruz does not obtain the GOP's, he'll get the Tea Party's nomination. As I see the whole of GOP/TP candidates they do one good thing for the nation: Give us plenty of examples of whom.....NOT.....to vote into public service on behalf of the nation!
Clinton/Sanders, a crook and a socialist, both with tired worn out ideas that have been disproved and rejected.
Might as well elect a couple of chimps.
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