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NorthernGent -> RE: Pearl Harbor Day (12/25/2015 4:27:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

In terms of the war in the West, the United States provided much of the manpower and the equipment. WW1 had almost bankrupted Britain and so we didn't have that much to give except intelligence gathering, which did play a vital role in the Allied effort. I'm not sure it's understood, but Britain were putting cardboard tanks into fields in an attempt to have the Germans think we had a lot more to fight them with than which we actually did. If Germany had been really committed to an invasion of Britain in 1940, as opposed to the half-hearted attempt they made, we wouldn't have been able to hold them off because we simply did not have the equipment needed.

According to churchill in his book ww2 jerry would not have made it across the channel because in contravention of the treaty of versailles brittian had laid down, instead of destroying, all of it's heavy coastal artillary in secret so that with the combination of radar and the heavy guns no invaision force would have made it across the channel.

http://www.amazon.com/Winston-Churchill-GATHERING-ALLIANCE-CLOSING/dp/B005NS30ZG/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1451046737&sr=1-2&keywords=world+war+2+churchill

If you're getting at the question: "would the Russians have won the war without American intervention?" Then that depends.

The Russians were not the crack outfit that many think today. The Germans really went to town on them when conditions suited them: the weather, fighting on the plains instead of street fighting which the Germans were not trained to do.

After hitler&co. made the left turn out of poland and headed towards moscow it cost them 1000 body bags a day...(it cost the russians more but they had more bodies) about 200 dead germans per mile by the time they got to smolinsk (about 300 miles)...not much street fighting. Then hitler told guderian that even a corporal could notice guderian's exposed flank and he had best take care of all those ruskeis in keive.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=thunder+on+the+dniper#/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=thunder+on+the+dnieper&rh=n%3A283155%2Ck%3Athunder+on+the+dnieper

But, like the pack of idiots Hitler and associates were: they did not train the army for street fighting, which was inevitable at some point, nor did they equip them for winter-warfare - the German Army was told to live off the land and steal what they needed.

They were equipped to fight in the snow but the suplies just did not get shipped effeciently because of the change in railroad gauge between europe and russia.

They also wasted precious time by being diverted towards Britain, when they really did not need to do that. This helped to delay the invasion of Russia by 6 weeks which was crucial.

I believe what was more crucial was that they had grosly underestimated the russians. When the bolshiviks took over, russia was not even on the list of the top 100 industiralized countries but by june of 1940 they were the third most industrialized country.

Yes, after Kursk in 1943 - there was no way back for the Germans - probably there was no way back for the Germans after being stalled outside of Moscow in 1941

Stalled??? Total ass whuppin would be a better discription...a quarter of a million dead in the assault and another 90,000 body bags as zhucov chased those punks out of town.


- largely due to the weather as German equipment came to a standstill.

One has to ask why the weather only caused issues for the germans...weren't the russians fighting in the same snow?

So, yes, the Germans lost the war for themselves through poor tactical decisions, rather than the Russians winning it through being a crack outfit.

It seems that many in the west have a difficult time admitting that the russians were capable of fielding a capable army led by capable officers in spite of facts to the contrary.

The reason I say it depends is because those supplies that came from the United States and Britain were crucial in keeping the Russians fighting.

The historical record would not support that contention. Google as well as churchil's book, previously cited,will verify how many convoys g.b. and the total tonnaage of supplies sent to russia.
The total of supplies sent to russia by the anglo amerikan allies amounted to about 4% of the total war materias used by the russians in ww 2 the majority of which came via iran beginning in late 43'. Lenningrad ,while under siege, produced a little over 10% ot the war material used by the russians in that war.


http://www.amazon.com/900-Days-Siege-Leningrad/dp/0306812983/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1451054271&sr=1-1&keywords=900+days+the+siege+of+leningrad

The Russians were right on the shite in 1941 and it took the NKVD to follow the Russian Army and start shooting any Russian soldier who took a step backwards.

While that is a common story, it lacks logic....(how many nkvd would it require to force millions of soldiers to move forward?).
By the same token it was/is not an uncommon tactic in all armies, not just in ww 2.




That was the extent of their precarious situation. The Germans were steaming them

In a war of attrition (ww 2 was definitely a war of attrition) germany, a country of only 55 million could not hope to win against a country of more than 150 million with a superior industrial base. The russians simply outfought and outproduced the germans and in the end spanked their asses purple. In the cites provided zhucov pointed out that extending the german supply line was one of the essential elements for victory, thus the retreat with huge and irreplacible losses in both men and equipment for the germans.




I'm certainly not saying that the Russians were not capable.

What I'm saying is that the Russian Army of 1943-45 was a completely different proposition to the Russian Army of 1941; likewise the German Army of 1941 was a different proposition to the Germany Army of 1943.

In 1941 they absolutely disintegrated in the face of the German onslaught. By disintegrated I mean that the Germans made huge advances on the plains and captured huge amounts of Russian soldiers.

It wasn't even a contest, until the weather set in - not just snow - but the rain prior to winter that turned roads into more or less impassable sludge.

The Russians fought in the same conditions yes, but they were the defenders and so the bad weather was their friend as it provided a further obstacle for the German advance.

The Germans didn't have a plan beyond 1941. They knew it was then or never so didn't even bother considering a protracted war - everything was geared to a short war finished by the time the bad weather set in.

They could have beaten the Russians in 1941. We'll never know for sure but that is my opinion. No matter the difference in potential manpower, because in my opinion the Germans held advantages that were enough to overcome the manpower issue.

They lost it due to poor tactical decisions largely dictated by Hitler and close associates. Left to German generals I think they would have beaten them in 1941 - but they certainly wouldn't have done during the period 1942-1945.






thompsonx -> RE: Pearl Harbor Day (12/25/2015 4:33:00 PM)


ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

I am still trying to figure out what Dulles had to do with the Treaty of Versailles ?

A change in medication would help you to understand...of course there is an ld 50 for such meds so caution is advised.




Dvr22999874 -> RE: Pearl Harbor Day (12/25/2015 4:41:37 PM)

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thompsonx -> RE: Pearl Harbor Day (12/25/2015 5:32:18 PM)

I'm certainly not saying that the Russians were not capable.

What I'm saying is that the Russian Army of 1943-45 was a completely different proposition to the Russian Army of 1941;

The cite: "thunder on the dniper" disputes that belief. Stalin had zhukov and pavlov wargame the coming attack by the germans(which stalin was well aware of down to the minute)
Zhukov showed that defense at the boarder was not going to work. Zhukov and stalin were willing to sacrafice blood and real estate to lure the germans into a well laid trap in front of moscow.


likewise the German Army of 1941 was a different proposition to the Germany Army of 1943.

Same army minus a bit of hardware and blood. Operations mars and uranus were a well coordinated operation covering thousands of square miles and milllions of men.

In 1941 they absolutely disintegrated in the face of the German onslaught. By disintegrated I mean that the Germans made huge advances on the plains and captured huge amounts of Russian soldiers.

Which the cites I posted show to be part and parcel of zhucov's plan. Bring the enemy out of the range of his supplies. How successful were the germans after moscow? Zhucov suckered them into a winter battle on his own turf. Stalingrad zhucov suckered them into another battle on his own turf on his own terms. Unlike jerry he never underestimated his enemy. He would offer them a plum ripe for the picking and then chopped off the hand that reached too far for it.

It wasn't even a contest, until the weather set in - not just snow - but the rain prior to winter that turned roads into more or less impassable sludge.

Don't forget the issues jerry had with the priapit...plenty of sludge there without the rains.

The Russians fought in the same conditions yes, but they were the defenders and so the bad weather was their friend as it provided a further obstacle for the German advance.

Zhucov also had the advantage of a shitload troops brought from northern manchuria who were well equipped (mink underware)and well trained. The battle of khalkhyn gol taught the japanese something they should have relayed to the germans...zhukov was not to be underestamated...perhaps they did but jerry was in no mood to listen to those "honorary aryians" the result was 340,000 body bags full of saurkraut and an astonished little corporal.

The Germans didn't have a plan beyond 1941. They knew it was then or never so didn't even bother considering a protracted war - everything was geared to a short war finished by the time the bad weather set in.

When you begin to believe your own propaganda you get your ass spanked pruple. Guderian of all people spent time in russia training the tank corps of the german army. Did he think the russians were not taking notes?

They could have beaten the Russians in 1941.

The battle of moscow happened in 1941 and the germans lost. They never seemed to notice that the russians kept fertalizing russian soil with german blood and filling up body bags with german soldiers.

We'll never know for sure but that is my opinion. No matter the difference in potential manpower, because in my opinion the Germans held advantages that were enough to overcome the manpower issue.

Obviously not as was clearly demonstrated at lenningrad,moscow,stalingrad and kursk.

They lost it due to poor tactical decisions largely dictated by Hitler and close associates. Left to German generals I think they would have beaten them in 1941

That is a common remonstrance of the loosing generals. Manstien whines about how the "stupid animals" would not surrender when outnumbered but at the same time lauding german units who fought to the last man. Guderians memoirs echo the same shit. Hitler and his punks went to an asskicking contest barefoot because they thought russia was a soft target. Stalin was no fool...he had read hitlers book and understood that the germans were comming. He had a spy network that went to hitler's elbow.


- but they certainly wouldn't have done during the period 1942-1945.

Obviously





thompsonx -> RE: Pearl Harbor Day (12/25/2015 6:16:44 PM)


ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

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I would not have a clue where you could find that sort. The only meds I do with an ld50 is theobromine.
Warren buffett is my connection on that.





MrRodgers -> RE: Pearl Harbor Day (12/26/2015 9:50:17 AM)

Hitler. Germany, Britain, 1933.....

"In 1933 Hitler also announced his policy in regard to Britain. He pointed out that Marx, Lenin, and Stalin had all repeatedly reiterated that before International communism could reach its final objectives, Britain and her Empire had to be destroyed. Under these circumstances Hitler said: "I am willing to help defend the British Empire by force if called upon."

"Hitler never wavered from his personal opinion that the survival of Germany as a great power depended upon an alliance with the British Empire. In 1936 he instituted proceedings to try to bring about this alliance. He arranged for unofficial conversations to take place between German and British diplomats, and after the meetings failed to produce the alliance he so greatly desired, he said: "No sacrifice would have been too great in order to gain England's alliance. It would have meant renunciation of our colonies; and importance as a sea power; and refraining from interference with British industry by competition."

(This statement and others of a similar nature prove that Hitler never had accepted or agreed with the extreme Nazi War-Lords' Long Range Plan for World domination by Military conquest). He considered all these German concessions would have been worthwhile if only he had been able to bring about the German-British alliance. His failure to bring about the British Alliance caused him to weaken in his opposition to the totalitarian ideology as advocated by the extreme Nazi War Lords.

"Pawns in the Game" by William Guy Carr...Sisyphus Press -- P.O. Box 10495 State College, Pa. 16805-0495

HERE




NorthernGent -> RE: Pearl Harbor Day (12/26/2015 11:03:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Hitler. Germany, Britain, 1933.....

"In 1933 Hitler also announced his policy in regard to Britain. He pointed out that Marx, Lenin, and Stalin had all repeatedly reiterated that before International communism could reach its final objectives, Britain and her Empire had to be destroyed. Under these circumstances Hitler said: "I am willing to help defend the British Empire by force if called upon."

"Hitler never wavered from his personal opinion that the survival of Germany as a great power depended upon an alliance with the British Empire. In 1936 he instituted proceedings to try to bring about this alliance. He arranged for unofficial conversations to take place between German and British diplomats, and after the meetings failed to produce the alliance he so greatly desired, he said: "No sacrifice would have been too great in order to gain England's alliance. It would have meant renunciation of our colonies; and importance as a sea power; and refraining from interference with British industry by competition."

(This statement and others of a similar nature prove that Hitler never had accepted or agreed with the extreme Nazi War-Lords' Long Range Plan for World domination by Military conquest). He considered all these German concessions would have been worthwhile if only he had been able to bring about the German-British alliance. His failure to bring about the British Alliance caused him to weaken in his opposition to the totalitarian ideology as advocated by the extreme Nazi War Lords.

"Pawns in the Game" by William Guy Carr...Sisyphus Press -- P.O. Box 10495 State College, Pa. 16805-0495

HERE



What exactly is the point in all of this?

You couldn't dream up two nations so diametrically opposed in their political views.

Yeah, of course he wanted an alliance with England, but England didn't want an alliance with them. Just as we didn't in 1914.

Germany was a well respected nation in England, for her achievements in many areas such as science, philosophy, music, literature etc.

But, when it came to politics they were a laughing stock here and a nation that we simply could not do business with.

Regardless, what is your point with this?




MrRodgers -> RE: Pearl Harbor Day (12/26/2015 4:00:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Hitler. Germany, Britain, 1933.....

"In 1933 Hitler also announced his policy in regard to Britain. He pointed out that Marx, Lenin, and Stalin had all repeatedly reiterated that before International communism could reach its final objectives, Britain and her Empire had to be destroyed. Under these circumstances Hitler said: "I am willing to help defend the British Empire by force if called upon."

"Hitler never wavered from his personal opinion that the survival of Germany as a great power depended upon an alliance with the British Empire. In 1936 he instituted proceedings to try to bring about this alliance. He arranged for unofficial conversations to take place between German and British diplomats, and after the meetings failed to produce the alliance he so greatly desired, he said: "No sacrifice would have been too great in order to gain England's alliance. It would have meant renunciation of our colonies; and importance as a sea power; and refraining from interference with British industry by competition."

(This statement and others of a similar nature prove that Hitler never had accepted or agreed with the extreme Nazi War-Lords' Long Range Plan for World domination by Military conquest). He considered all these German concessions would have been worthwhile if only he had been able to bring about the German-British alliance. His failure to bring about the British Alliance caused him to weaken in his opposition to the totalitarian ideology as advocated by the extreme Nazi War Lords.

"Pawns in the Game" by William Guy Carr...Sisyphus Press -- P.O. Box 10495 State College, Pa. 16805-0495

HERE



What exactly is the point in all of this?

You couldn't dream up two nations so diametrically opposed in their political views.

Yeah, of course he wanted an alliance with England, but England didn't want an alliance with them. Just as we didn't in 1914.

Germany was a well respected nation in England, for her achievements in many areas such as science, philosophy, music, literature etc.

But, when it came to politics they were a laughing stock here and a nation that we simply could not do business with.

Regardless, what is your point with this?


My point and that of others here, was that prior to Hitler even invading Poland and for some years, wanted no part of a European continental war. Hitler's biggest concern was communism and the international bankers that financed them and would finance both sides in a world war.

We have a saying in auto racing, that the cars don't run on fuel, they run on money. Wars don't run on just dead bodies, blood and destruction, which is of no concern to the elites anyway...they run on money. All of the material needed for both wars, the political rise of the antagonists were all financed by western banking interests. If you wish to do your homework. Look at banking and industrial profits during both wars.

Hitler in fact was trying to prevent all of that with an alliance with the UK. It wasn't until after he was refused that he took on the fascist role and in fact 3 years after letting the Brits know of this battle, with Nazi warmongering interests, that Germany finally went after Europe.

It is also why he invaded Russia without ever invading Britain. The political aspect as I have repeatedly written was secondary and used only to take power. That's why in fact so-called nationalist/socialist Germany once having power, quickly turned into a capitalist fascist oligarchy.




Politesub53 -> RE: Pearl Harbor Day (12/26/2015 5:04:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Real One....... I see you are still using bogus articles as truth, I would have thought even you would wise up at some point, but sadly there is no sign of it.

Hartley Shawcross made one speech at Stourbridge, not in 1984 but back in 1948.

It was the complete opposite of the claim you are now making.... no shocks there then.



why dont you send in a formal complaint to the associated press and let them know they have the story all wrong since it was butt hurt lil you who was there not them!

Step by step, I have arrived at the conviction that the aims of Communism in Europe are sinister and fatal. At the Nuremberg Trials, I, together with my Russian colleague, condemned Nazi Aggression and Terror. I believe now that Hitler and the German People did not want war. But we, /England/, declared war on Germany, intent on destroying it, in accordance with our principle of Balance of Power, and we were encouraged by the 'Americans' /Jews/ around Roosevelt. We ignored Hitler's pleading, not to enter into war. Now we are forced to realize that Hitler was right. He offered us the co-operation of Germany: instead, since 1945, we have been facing the immense power of the Soviet Empire. I feel ashamed and humiliated to see that the aims we accused Hitler of, are being relentless pursued now, only under a different label - Ashamed and Humiliated The British Attorney General, Sir Hartle Shawcross, said in a speech at Stourbridge, March 16/84 (AP)


Why dont you give a proper link for this drivel you racist prick. I am in no hurry.




Real0ne -> RE: Pearl Harbor Day (12/26/2015 6:24:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Real One....... I see you are still using bogus articles as truth, I would have thought even you would wise up at some point, but sadly there is no sign of it.

Hartley Shawcross made one speech at Stourbridge, not in 1984 but back in 1948.

It was the complete opposite of the claim you are now making.... no shocks there then.



why dont you send in a formal complaint to the associated press and let them know they have the story all wrong since it was butt hurt lil you who was there not them!

Step by step, I have arrived at the conviction that the aims of Communism in Europe are sinister and fatal. At the Nuremberg Trials, I, together with my Russian colleague, condemned Nazi Aggression and Terror. I believe now that Hitler and the German People did not want war. But we, /England/, declared war on Germany, intent on destroying it, in accordance with our principle of Balance of Power, and we were encouraged by the 'Americans' /Jews/ around Roosevelt. We ignored Hitler's pleading, not to enter into war. Now we are forced to realize that Hitler was right. He offered us the co-operation of Germany: instead, since 1945, we have been facing the immense power of the Soviet Empire. I feel ashamed and humiliated to see that the aims we accused Hitler of, are being relentless pursued now, only under a different label - Ashamed and Humiliated The British Attorney General, Sir Hartle Shawcross, said in a speech at Stourbridge, March 16/84 (AP)


Why dont you give a proper link for this drivel you racist prick. I am in no hurry.




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Now of course I didnt put that in there but since you are so butthurt over it, here is an insider jew (orthodox, those are the jews that protest against butthurt zionists), who is more than happy to confirm what the emphasis put in there by who ever added that.

Got another case of butt hurt huh. Well listen to this nice jewish guy who unlike you was actually there confirm it and call someone in the morning who gives a shit!

Start at the 54 mark and enjoy, and since truth is so painful, be sure to be well prepared so you dont hurt yourself

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NorthernGent -> RE: Pearl Harbor Day (12/27/2015 3:40:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

My point and that of others here, was that prior to Hitler even invading Poland and for some years, wanted no part of a European continental war. Hitler's biggest concern was communism and the international bankers that financed them and would finance both sides in a world war.



The most important concern of the Nazi Party was blood or racial doctrine.

Everything else, such as his views on Communism and 'the international bankers' was a product of said core thinking at the heart of both their domestic and foreign policy.

And, of course when he said Communism and 'the international bankers', he meant: "the Jews".

In his strange world "the Jews" were the reason why Germany had failed to compete with the likes of Britain. The irony being that it was their tendency to look inwards for the answers, and focus on areas such as blood and race, while Britain looked outwards and focused on commerce; that was the reason why they failed to compete with Britain.

In his world, and the world of his associates, France was decadent, the United States was decadent, Britain was rapacious, Slavs were inferior and "the Jews" were sub-human.

You see the theme? Poor old Germany, everyone else is inferior, everyone else is plotting to keep us down, why can't we get what we deserve which is the superior German race running Europe.

Hitler and associates borrowed most of their ideas from 19th century Germany. The idea of German High Kultur, which in their minds was far superior to say France; and they actually believed, not just the Nazis; but those such as Wagner who was a favourite of Hitler's: that only Germany could save European civilisation.

You see the theme? Huge admirers of themselves, except no on shared this view of Germany as some bastion of culture.

Ultimately, when you boil it down to its bones: Germany felt it was not getting its just desserts, which in practice meant dominating continental Europe, and the Nazis were very keen to make that happen as were Germans who had gone before him.

And, why would Britain want an alliance with those jokers and their ill-conceived, half-baked ideas? We simply did not agree with them.

Yeah, by all means, cite Germany's peace feelers towards Britain, but in the event you don't like what they have to say then you ain't gonna have an alliance.

Said peace feelers doesn't mean that somehow they were peaceful, or had any designs on peace whatsoever, it meant that they wanted to keep Britain out of it for obvious reasons: those reasons being the difficulties of fighting a war on two fronts when the inevitable invasion of Eastern Europe came. Just as the Germans of 1914 wanted to keep Britain out of it, and those Germans did a lot more pleading to Britain than Hitler ever did.

Those peace feelers were no more than manipulating the stage before they got down to business.




MrRodgers -> RE: Pearl Harbor Day (12/27/2015 7:43:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Real One....... I see you are still using bogus articles as truth, I would have thought even you would wise up at some point, but sadly there is no sign of it.

Hartley Shawcross made one speech at Stourbridge, not in 1984 but back in 1948.

It was the complete opposite of the claim you are now making.... no shocks there then.



why dont you send in a formal complaint to the associated press and let them know they have the story all wrong since it was butt hurt lil you who was there not them!

Step by step, I have arrived at the conviction that the aims of Communism in Europe are sinister and fatal. At the Nuremberg Trials, I, together with my Russian colleague, condemned Nazi Aggression and Terror. I believe now that Hitler and the German People did not want war. But we, /England/, declared war on Germany, intent on destroying it, in accordance with our principle of Balance of Power, and we were encouraged by the 'Americans' /Jews/ around Roosevelt. We ignored Hitler's pleading, not to enter into war. Now we are forced to realize that Hitler was right. He offered us the co-operation of Germany: instead, since 1945, we have been facing the immense power of the Soviet Empire. I feel ashamed and humiliated to see that the aims we accused Hitler of, are being relentless pursued now, only under a different label - Ashamed and Humiliated The British Attorney General, Sir Hartle Shawcross, said in a speech at Stourbridge, March 16/84 (AP)


Why dont you give a proper link for this drivel you racist prick. I am in no hurry.




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Now of course I didnt put that in there but since you are so butthurt over it, here is an insider jew (orthodox, those are the jews that protest against butthurt zionists), who is more than happy to confirm what the emphasis put in there by who ever added that.

Got another case of butt hurt huh. Well listen to this nice jewish guy who unlike you was actually there confirm it and call someone in the morning who gives a shit!

Start at the 54 mark and enjoy, and since truth is so painful, be sure to be well prepared so you dont hurt yourself

[image]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y410/mypbemotes/misc/butthurt/55GalDrumAnalLube_zpsjbmevgvu.jpg[/image]




I watched the whole thing and it was an incredibly illuminating piece and what I had suspected all along but didn't link the Zionist to the bankers and getting the US into WWI...until now. I so like these new pieces revealing how the world has been told one thing while what is the real truth...is hidden for as long as possible.

One is how successful the cover-ups, the propaganda and how the American and western bankers and industrialists have consistently escaped any culpability for any of their warmongering or profiteering and for about 100 years or more.




Real0ne -> RE: Pearl Harbor Day (12/27/2015 3:26:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

What exactly is the point in all of this?

You couldn't dream up two nations so diametrically opposed in their political views.




Yeh there you go rooty toot tootin for the high road british, eyes closed full speed ahead!

Forgotten Assholes of History - Lord Kitchener - The British Invented Concentration Camps




NorthernGent -> RE: Pearl Harbor Day (12/27/2015 3:43:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

What exactly is the point in all of this?

You couldn't dream up two nations so diametrically opposed in their political views.




Yeh there you go rooty toot tootin for the high road british, eyes closed full speed ahead!

Forgotten Assholes of History - Lord Kitchener - The British Invented Concentration Camps


This isn't news, Real0ne.

Everyone here knows about the concentration camps, and Amritsar - shooting people for the crime of peaceful protest, and Jamaica in the 1850s, and Ireland in 1916 and many, many more circumstances that I could tell you about that don't paint the English in a good light. I could probably tell you things about your own government which have completely escaped you.

The actions of the British Government are recorded in history. There's no dispute here. Still, what does this have to do with Nazi Germany, "the Jews" and "the bankers"?




Real0ne -> RE: Pearl Harbor Day (12/27/2015 4:17:38 PM)

so you are admitting to being dishonest about taking that proud british high road so different than germany? Looks to me like the brits were the scum of the earth and history has recorded that they in fact blame the victims of their atrocities for what they themselves do or did. Looks to me like hitler had good intentions and britain simply fucked him over. How can you spread such bullshit is what I want to know when you know its not true?




Real0ne -> RE: Pearl Harbor Day (12/27/2015 4:35:54 PM)

Freedman, that nice jewish guy who was knee deep in it unlike anyone here was kind of enough to drop names and info on us.

The following is a transcript of Samuel Untermyer's speech made on WABC, declaring a 'holy war' by the Jews against Germany, and appealing to the masses of non-Jewish humanity to boycott German-made imports and all merchants who have German-made items in their establishments. The entire speech was published in the New York times on the morning following the broadcast (August 7th, 1933) which was mentioned by Benjamin Freedman [the nice Jewish guy] in his talk before a group of patriots.

A short excerpt from The World's Trouble Makers gives further insight to this speech:

When Hitler had been soundly established, Samuel Untermeyer, a New York Jewish Lawyer, called for war on Germany. The call was made through radio station WABC on 8-7-33. He had just returned from a world conference of Jews at The Hague. In the broadcast, he said he was calling for a "holy war", and described the Jews as "the aristocrats of the world".

This same gentleman was connected with the Foreign Policy Association of New York and the worldwide organisation to move Jews out of Germany, not only into the United States, but to Palestine and other countries. These activities were tied in with the organisation known as the "International Boycott on German Goods", of which Untermeyer was the head!

From that time the "Hate Germany" campaign was intensified and made worldwide, with a special Jewish-organised "National Conference of Jews and Christians" assisting! These are the hate-spreaders, but they never grow tired of praising themselves. That marked the beginning of the Jewish exodus from Germany.



so its the germans that took the high road and the hated was created by the jews and double crossing british not the germans eh?
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Termyn8or -> RE: Pearl Harbor Day (12/27/2015 4:36:55 PM)

"And, of course when he said Communism and 'the international bankers', he meant: "the Jews".

And he was 100 % fucking right. And still is today.

T^T




NorthernGent -> RE: Pearl Harbor Day (12/27/2015 4:41:33 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"And, of course when he said Communism and 'the international bankers', he meant: "the Jews".

And he was 100 % fucking right. And still is today.

T^T


No he wasn't. He was a complete fool with no brains.

I see now where all this anti-British sentiment is coming from.

You and the other two cracker-jacks wanted Hitler and associates to take care of "the bankers" and "the Jews", and because Britain put a stop to it you blame Britain for the ills of the world.

You three are even bigger idiots than Hitler. At least he could paint.




Real0ne -> RE: Pearl Harbor Day (12/27/2015 4:42:40 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"And, of course when he said Communism and 'the international bankers', he meant: "the Jews".

And he was 100 % fucking right. And still is today.

T^T



Not just Jews however, he was clear in the beginning of his speech he was talking about the Zionist Jews. Orthodox Jews hate the Zionists.

[image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/Zion/233432432.gif[/image]

Now britain cut a deal with the zionists to give them palestine, as if they had any interest or right what so ever to do anything with palestine in the first place, and like freeman says it would be like the US paying a debt by giving ireland japan.




Real0ne -> RE: Pearl Harbor Day (12/27/2015 4:47:56 PM)

any surprise there is nothing but war in that area?
typical high road british meddling so they could save their own asses and the jews [zionists] threw germany under the bus after the germans took them in as refugees.





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