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CreativeDominant -> Unreasonable? (12/17/2015 7:30:42 PM)
Hmmmmm...now I wonder, would the DOJ consider this hate speech? http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/22805/ http://www.youngcons.com/black-professor-wants-all-white-people-to-deposit-their-money-into-black-peoples-bank-accounts/ I know there'll be those who'll just denigrate this story because of the sites that covered it. I challenge you to come up with ANY source where the Professor (salary paid in part by WHITE taxpayers) explains away these remarks. Tell me why you think a white professor saying something similar on tone about black people would not be called on the carpet as being racist and...most likely...fired.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Unreasonable? (12/17/2015 8:13:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant Hmmmmm...now I wonder, would the DOJ consider this hate speech? http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/22805/ http://www.youngcons.com/black-professor-wants-all-white-people-to-deposit-their-money-into-black-peoples-bank-accounts/ I know there'll be those who'll just denigrate this story because of the sites that covered it. I challenge you to come up with ANY source where the Professor (salary paid in part by WHITE taxpayers) explains away these remarks. Tell me why you think a white professor saying something similar on tone about black people would not be called on the carpet as being racist and...most likely...fired. To sum up the Prof.'s tweet: "White people need to take all their unearned money and put it into accounts of Black people, who also didn't earn it." This isn't racist because he's a member of a protected class.

JVoV -> RE: Unreasonable? (12/17/2015 9:04:27 PM)
I have historical trauma. Gimme ur money CD. [8D] yeah yeah, I said Ken first. But all u white ppl look alike.

CreativeDominant -> RE: Unreasonable? (12/17/2015 9:28:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV I have historical trauma. Gimme ur money CD. [8D] yeah yeah, I said Ken first. But all u white ppl look alike. Yanno...I really wish I could but I gave all the extra money I had to a black homeless person. One of those with a sign asking for money but turned down work I offered him. Once I realized how I'd insulted him by asking him to do some work, I just gave the money to him...I owed him that. [&:] Why yes...yes, we do.

kdsub -> RE: Unreasonable? (12/17/2015 10:34:17 PM)
Looking to past racism will not solve today’s problem in my opinion… We have tried that with affirmative action and up to a point it served its purpose. But now it is causing more to separate the races than to equalize them. Trying to set a numerical value in dollars for the responsibility each person could never be done fairly even if it were to be possible, which it is not, in today’s political climate. A far better approach is on an individual basis and should be encouraged. We each need to reexamine our place in life and look inward and try to honestly ask… am I prejudice and have in my life I benefited from my racism. If we have then what would be the best way, from this day forward, to reasonably make amends….or as they say at least sin no more. If I feel I am a victim of racism then I should also look inward and try to honestly ask…am I truly a victim of prejudice or am I seeing racism that does not exist for me personally even if I think I see it in others. If I do see racism then I need to think of the best way to address it that will not further encourage the divide between races. We need to change minds not police departments… we need to engage our fellow man not buy more guns. This divide can only be closed if people give each other a chance to change without demands that will never be met. We need to make each other aware of our thoughts and feeling so together racism can be subdued. What it happening today is just the opposite… I want to know first hand from the people I see each day just exactly where the racism is they feel so I can exchange my thoughts with them and we can come to an understanding and move forward to true equality. Standing in the streets claiming racism without letting caring people know where it is…will never bring us together only push us further apart. Butch

JVoV -> RE: Unreasonable? (12/17/2015 11:14:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV I have historical trauma. Gimme ur money CD. [8D] yeah yeah, I said Ken first. But all u white ppl look alike. Yanno...I really wish I could but I gave all the extra money I had to a black homeless person. One of those with a sign asking for money but turned down work I offered him. Once I realized how I'd insulted him by asking him to do some work, I just gave the money to him...I owed him that. [&:] Why yes...yes, we do. See, you can do your own damn work. Stop being lazy.

RottenJohnny -> RE: Unreasonable? (12/17/2015 11:19:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri To sum up the Prof.'s tweet: "White people need to take all their unearned money and put it into accounts of Black people, who also didn't earn it." Can't help you, professor. I'm already going poor paying for the poor.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Unreasonable? (12/17/2015 11:23:01 PM)
Being ¼ Cherokee, I think all y'all mua-fuckers owe me some scratch. [:D] Michael

Greta75 -> RE: Unreasonable? (12/17/2015 11:39:38 PM)
quote: Looking to past racism will not solve today’s problem in my opinion Yup, this "You owe us" mentality has to stop! Blaming new generation of white folks for what happened to old generation of white folks did in the past is just like if us Chinese continually condemning the new generation of Japanese for the rest of our lives too for what they did to us in the past. I had this black american explain to me, that it's unfair to compare like that, because no race in this universe in history has suffered as terrible from the slavery as the black folks of America. But I said to him, perhaps he didn't really go through every single Asian country history where slavery was rampant in the past too, and they weren't humane Masters, Asians are cruel people, and till today, some modern slaves exists in loopholes. And I mean slave in a way where you completely own someone and they have zero rights. But if every ethnicity who was enslaved gonna keep going on and on about it as the reason for their every future generation difficulties. Then the cycle will never end, there will not be progress. I said to him, you are not a slave now. You were never born a slave. The current white people have no interest in enslaving you. You have by your own parents hard work and your own hard work, got you well educated and a good job that pays you well. This dude is actually doing well with a Masters making 100k per annum, or so he claims to me. Why still keep blaming slavery as the reason for causing his community to be struggling? It puzzles me even more because he made it through sheer hard work, his proof himself that it's possible for them now. He said because the atrocities was so bad, that it must never be forgotten. They should be reminded of it over and over again forever. Like, seriously..., I don't get it, what is the purpose of that! And he said the white men has not done enough to compensate what they have done to us.

JVoV -> RE: Unreasonable? (12/18/2015 12:18:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr Being ¼ Cherokee, I think all y'all mua-fuckers owe me some scratch. [:D] Michael Do you have a reservation? Come back Tuesday.

JVoV -> RE: Unreasonable? (12/18/2015 12:28:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: Looking to past racism will not solve today’s problem in my opinion Yup, this "You owe us" mentality has to stop! Blaming new generation of white folks for what happened to old generation of white folks did in the past is just like if us Chinese continually condemning the new generation of Japanese for the rest of our lives too for what they did to us in the past. I had this black american explain to me, that it's unfair to compare like that, because no race in this universe in history has suffered as terrible from the slavery as the black folks of America. But I said to him, perhaps he didn't really go through every single Asian country history where slavery was rampant in the past too, and they weren't humane Masters, Asians are cruel people, and till today, some modern slaves exists in loopholes. And I mean slave in a way where you completely own someone and they have zero rights. But if every ethnicity who was enslaved gonna keep going on and on about it as the reason for their every future generation difficulties. Then the cycle will never end, there will not be progress. I said to him, you are not a slave now. You were never born a slave. The current white people have no interest in enslaving you. You have by your own parents hard work and your own hard work, got you well educated and a good job that pays you well. This dude is actually doing well with a Masters making 100k per annum, or so he claims to me. Why still keep blaming slavery as the reason for causing his community to be struggling? It puzzles me even more because he made it through sheer hard work, his proof himself that it's possible for them now. He said because the atrocities was so bad, that it must never be forgotten. They should be reminded of it over and over again forever. Like, seriously..., I don't get it, what is the purpose of that! And he said the white men has not done enough to compensate what they have done to us. A few years back, there was a series or miniseries about black celebrities checking their DNA to trace their lineage, through the plantations and back to Africa. One of them had greatgreathowevermanygreat grandparents from the plantation my family owned near Tampa. But she seems to be doing OK for herself.

CreativeDominant -> RE: Unreasonable? (12/18/2015 6:51:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV I have historical trauma. Gimme ur money CD. [8D] yeah yeah, I said Ken first. But all u white ppl look alike. Yanno...I really wish I could but I gave all the extra money I had to a black homeless person. One of those with a sign asking for money but turned down work I offered him. Once I realized how I'd insulted him by asking him to do some work, I just gave the money to him...I owed him that. [&:] Why yes...yes, we do. See, you can do your own damn work. Stop being lazy. But...but...but...sigh, you're right. That's why I gave him the money...not only for what white people I never met did to black people he never met, but because those white folks and I did it to him also. Then I add insult on top of that by offering work...I'm just a lazy, insulting ass.

CreativeDominant -> RE: Unreasonable? (12/18/2015 6:52:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr Being ¼ Cherokee, I think all y'all mua-fuckers owe me some scratch. [:D] Michael Got a nice back scratcher at home...would that help?[:)]

Lucylastic -> RE: Unreasonable? (12/18/2015 7:50:42 AM)
Strange, this was news back in may.... A newer question if the DOJ considers this as hate speech??? http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/16/opinion/campaign-stops/ted-cruz-and-the-anti-gay-pastor.html?_r=0 EARLIER this month, in Des Moines, the prominent home-schooling advocate and pastor Kevin Swanson again called for the punishment of homosexuality by death. To be clear, he added that the time for eliminating America’s gay population was “not yet” at hand. We must wait for the nation to embrace the one true religion, he suggested, and gay people must be allowed to repent and convert. Mr. Swanson proposed this at the National Religious Liberties Conference, an event he organized. Featured speakers included three Republican contenders for the presidency: the former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana and Senator Ted Cruz of Texas. Mr. Huckabee later pleaded ignorance. Yet a quick web search will turn up Mr. Swanson’s references to the demonic power of “the homosexual Borg,” the unmitigated evil of Harry Potter and the Disney character Princess Elsa’s lesbian agenda. http://news.yahoo.com/republican-candidates-attend-rally-where-014821801.html On Friday, three Republican presidential candidates — Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee — attended an event in Des Moines, Iowa, hosted by a controversial Colorado pastor who has frequently advocated against gay people, including that the government should put them to death. The event, dubbed the National Religious Liberties Conference, was hosted by pastor Kevin Swanson, who delivered a fiery speech in which he said Biblical law calls for "homosexuals" to be executed. "Yes, Leviticus 20:13 calls for the death penalty for homosexuals," he said. Swanson said he was "willing to go to jail for standing on the truth of the word of God."

DesideriScuri -> RE: Unreasonable? (12/18/2015 7:54:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Trying to set a numerical value in dollars for the responsibility each person could never be done fairly even if it were to be possible, which it is not, in today’s political climate. And, here's the real kicker, I know my family didn't participate in slavery in the US. My lineage didn't get here until the 1900's. And, we started in Jersey, and slowly moved West. I should't owe anyone anything for past slavery/racism.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Unreasonable? (12/18/2015 7:58:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic "Yes, Leviticus 20:13 calls for the death penalty for homosexuals," he said. Swanson said he was "willing to go to jail for standing on the truth of the word of God." Good. Has he turned himself in yet?

tweakabelle -> RE: Unreasonable? (12/18/2015 8:00:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Yet a quick web search will turn up Mr. Swanson’s references to the demonic power of “the homosexual Borg,” the unmitigated evil of Harry Potter and the Disney character Princess Elsa’s lesbian agenda. At last! A fearless man of God who recognises the evil hand of Satan and opposes it uncompromisingly where ever it is. There is no place for Satan's spawn such as the demonic Harry Porter or the degenerate Princess Elba in any Christian country. They should all go the way of Sponge Bob and all those other homosexual-Marxist fifth columnists who have sought to subvert our Constitution, suborn the weak of spirit and force unspeakable perversions on the (ahem) smooth soft unsullied flesh of our youth (drool). Why isn't this hero running for President instead of the dumbos in the clown car?

CreativeDominant -> RE: Unreasonable? (12/18/2015 8:18:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Strange, this was news back in may.... A newer question if the DOJ considers this as hate speech??? http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/16/opinion/campaign-stops/ted-cruz-and-the-anti-gay-pastor.html?_r=0 EARLIER this month, in Des Moines, the prominent home-schooling advocate and pastor Kevin Swanson again called for the punishment of homosexuality by death. To be clear, he added that the time for eliminating America’s gay population was “not yet” at hand. We must wait for the nation to embrace the one true religion, he suggested, and gay people must be allowed to repent and convert. Mr. Swanson proposed this at the National Religious Liberties Conference, an event he organized. Featured speakers included three Republican contenders for the presidency: the former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana and Senator Ted Cruz of Texas. Mr. Huckabee later pleaded ignorance. Yet a quick web search will turn up Mr. Swanson’s references to the demonic power of “the homosexual Borg,” the unmitigated evil of Harry Potter and the Disney character Princess Elsa’s lesbian agenda. http://news.yahoo.com/republican-candidates-attend-rally-where-014821801.html On Friday, three Republican presidential candidates — Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee — attended an event in Des Moines, Iowa, hosted by a controversial Colorado pastor who has frequently advocated against gay people, including that the government should put them to death. The event, dubbed the National Religious Liberties Conference, was hosted by pastor Kevin Swanson, who delivered a fiery speech in which he said Biblical law calls for "homosexuals" to be executed. "Yes, Leviticus 20:13 calls for the death penalty for homosexuals," he said. Swanson said he was "willing to go to jail for standing on the truth of the word of God." Another nutcase...one who SHOULD be in jail. And since he's willing to go, I say we should accommodate him. Tell me though, is this whack job teaching at a university? Are ANY of his idiotic positions being paid for through tax dollars? Do you feel the racist professor should join the idiotic pastor in a cell?

Lucylastic -> RE: Unreasonable? (12/18/2015 9:13:22 AM)
I never said anything about jail, I said DOJ interest in hate speech. you assume again. I wonder tho how much taxes he and his church pay. Plus he has endorsed the only viable right wing presidential candidate in the country, .... And his candidate has been proud to acknowledge that particular endorsement.

mnottertail -> RE: Unreasonable? (12/18/2015 9:25:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant Hmmmmm...now I wonder, would the DOJ consider this hate speech? http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/22805/ http://www.youngcons.com/black-professor-wants-all-white-people-to-deposit-their-money-into-black-peoples-bank-accounts/ I know there'll be those who'll just denigrate this story because of the sites that covered it. I challenge you to come up with ANY source where the Professor (salary paid in part by WHITE taxpayers) explains away these remarks. Tell me why you think a white professor saying something similar on tone about black people would not be called on the carpet as being racist and...most likely...fired. I challenge you to come up with credible citations that that was said, I looked at the history of his tweets, not at all hard to do, and it does not exist. It is certainly a felching nutsuckerism of hallucination. The reason that these nutsucker slobbering propaganda felches are denigrated because in the history of the world they have never once proven to be correct in any facet when felched by them.

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