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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BANNING_BAIL_BONDS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

SF is being sued to change it's bail system. What do you think of our current bail system?

I don't have a real opinion one way or the other. I can't think of a better system, but at the same time I can see some issues being brought up as being unfair.

If you are poor (& not white), it sucks big time.. people can be thrown in jail for quite minor offenses, and if they dont have the money to get bailed out they can lose EVERYTHING.. their job.. their home.. their kids and family.. is it any wonder that some become so depressed that they commit suicide in jail?

You can think of a better system? really??? how about not having to come up with bail? it costs taxpayers lotsa money to keep them there too, ya know..

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You can think of a better system? really??? how about not having to come up with bail? it costs taxpayers lotsa money to keep them there too, ya know..

Do you understand what bail is for?

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You can think of a better system? really??? how about not having to come up with bail? it costs taxpayers lotsa money to keep them there too, ya know..

Do you understand what bail is for?

so to you it makes sense to pay to put people (with minor offenses) in jail cuz they are poor and cant come up with the bail? You do realize that a homeless person costs taxpayers about $40,000/year and a big part of that cost is for throwing them in jail and keeping them there.. and after keeping someone who did have a job and home in jail long enough for them to lose their job, their home & kids they will then be homeless and in an even deeper hole.. but hey, since they are now homeless just throw them in jail again, huh???

"with the average cost of a prison bed at about $20,000 per year."

http://salvationarmynorth.org/2012/05/free-housing-for-the-homeless-costs-taxpayers-less/

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You can think of a better system? really??? how about not having to come up with bail? it costs taxpayers lotsa money to keep them there too, ya know..

Do you understand what bail is for?

so to you it makes sense to pay to put people (with minor offenses) in jail cuz they are poor and cant come up with the bail? You do realize that a homeless person costs taxpayers about $40,000/year and a big part of that cost is for throwing them in jail and keeping them there.. and after keeping someone who did have a job and home in jail long enough for them to lose their job, their home & kids they will then be homeless and in an even deeper hole.. but hey, since they are now homeless just throw them in jail again, huh???
"with the average cost of a prison bed at about $20,000 per year."
http://salvationarmynorth.org/2012/05/free-housing-for-the-homeless-costs-taxpayers-less/

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You can think of a better system? really??? how about not having to come up with bail? it costs taxpayers lotsa money to keep them there too, ya know..

Do you understand what bail is for?

so to you it makes sense to pay to put people (with minor offenses) in jail cuz they are poor and cant come up with the bail? You do realize that a homeless person costs taxpayers about $40,000/year and a big part of that cost is for throwing them in jail and keeping them there.. and after keeping someone who did have a job and home in jail long enough for them to lose their job, their home & kids they will then be homeless and in an even deeper hole.. but hey, since they are now homeless just throw them in jail again, huh???
"with the average cost of a prison bed at about $20,000 per year."
http://salvationarmynorth.org/2012/05/free-housing-for-the-homeless-costs-taxpayers-less/

Nothing more than histrionics. There's quite a difference between not keeping someone in jail for a minor offense because they can't post bail, and getting rid of the bail system altogether.

Since you didn't answer the question, I'll ask again: do you understand what bail is for?

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http://gawker.com/5995017/detroit-police-picking-up-homeless-and-dumpingthem-outside-of-city
http://www.mintpressnews.com/500-homeless-mental-patients-were-given-bus-pass-california-by-nevada-government-program/210607/

you maybe have some sort of substantial evidence of the good and kind shelter cops and their widespread crocodile tears?

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You can think of a better system? really??? how about not having to come up with bail? it costs taxpayers lotsa money to keep them there too, ya know..

Do you understand what bail is for?

so to you it makes sense to pay to put people (with minor offenses) in jail cuz they are poor and cant come up with the bail? You do realize that a homeless person costs taxpayers about $40,000/year and a big part of that cost is for throwing them in jail and keeping them there.. and after keeping someone who did have a job and home in jail long enough for them to lose their job, their home & kids they will then be homeless and in an even deeper hole.. but hey, since they are now homeless just throw them in jail again, huh???
"with the average cost of a prison bed at about $20,000 per year."
http://salvationarmynorth.org/2012/05/free-housing-for-the-homeless-costs-taxpayers-less/

Nothing more than histrionics. There's quite a difference between not keeping someone in jail for a minor offense because they can't post bail, and getting rid of the bail system altogether.

Since you didn't answer the question, I'll ask again: do you understand what bail is for?

Who said getting rid of the bail system completely?

Btw do you understand why bail doesn't work for minor offences and is actually pretty counter productive? Apparently not.

Btw what's it with the pissed off looking avatar? Why and where did you download the pic? I mean it's quite funny in a sad way but it makes it kinda hard to take you seriously, especially giving the content of your postings, one might actually think you are the sad dude in the avatar

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You can think of a better system? really??? how about not having to come up with bail? it costs taxpayers lotsa money to keep them there too, ya know..

Do you understand what bail is for?

so to you it makes sense to pay to put people (with minor offenses) in jail cuz they are poor and cant come up with the bail? You do realize that a homeless person costs taxpayers about $40,000/year and a big part of that cost is for throwing them in jail and keeping them there.. and after keeping someone who did have a job and home in jail long enough for them to lose their job, their home & kids they will then be homeless and in an even deeper hole.. but hey, since they are now homeless just throw them in jail again, huh???
"with the average cost of a prison bed at about $20,000 per year."
http://salvationarmynorth.org/2012/05/free-housing-for-the-homeless-costs-taxpayers-less/

Nothing more than histrionics. There's quite a difference between not keeping someone in jail for a minor offense because they can't post bail, and getting rid of the bail system altogether.
Since you didn't answer the question, I'll ask again: do you understand what bail is for?

Who said getting rid of the bail system completely?

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If you are poor (& not white), it sucks big time.. people can be thrown in jail for quite minor offenses, and if they dont have the money to get bailed out they can lose EVERYTHING.. their job.. their home.. their kids and family.. is it any wonder that some become so depressed that they commit suicide in jail?

You can think of a better system? really??? how about not having to come up with bail? it costs taxpayers lotsa money to keep them there too, ya know..

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Btw do you understand why bail doesn't work for minor offences and is actually pretty counter productive? Apparently not.

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Btw what's it with the pissed off looking avatar? Why and where did you download the pic? I mean it's quite funny in a sad way but it makes it kinda hard to take you seriously, especially giving the content of your postings, one might actually think you are the sad dude in the avatar

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• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
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Nothing you would accept, my boss when I worked for the Sheriff's office told me about it.

Hear say evidence like that is always acceptable to morons.

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You can think of a better system? really??? how about not having to come up with bail? it costs taxpayers lotsa money to keep them there too, ya know..

Do you understand what bail is for?

so to you it makes sense to pay to put people (with minor offenses) in jail cuz they are poor and cant come up with the bail? You do realize that a homeless person costs taxpayers about $40,000/year and a big part of that cost is for throwing them in jail and keeping them there.. and after keeping someone who did have a job and home in jail long enough for them to lose their job, their home & kids they will then be homeless and in an even deeper hole.. but hey, since they are now homeless just throw them in jail again, huh???
"with the average cost of a prison bed at about $20,000 per year."
http://salvationarmynorth.org/2012/05/free-housing-for-the-homeless-costs-taxpayers-less/

Nothing more than histrionics. There's quite a difference between not keeping someone in jail for a minor offense because they can't post bail, and getting rid of the bail system altogether.
Since you didn't answer the question, I'll ask again: do you understand what bail is for?

Who said getting rid of the bail system completely?

tj444 did here.

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If you are poor (& not white), it sucks big time.. people can be thrown in jail for quite minor offenses, and if they dont have the money to get bailed out they can lose EVERYTHING.. their job.. their home.. their kids and family.. is it any wonder that some become so depressed that they commit suicide in jail?

You can think of a better system? really??? how about not having to come up with bail? it costs taxpayers lotsa money to keep them there too, ya know..

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Btw do you understand why bail doesn't work for minor offences and is actually pretty counter productive? Apparently not.

Who is arguing for mandating bail for even minor offences? I think you may have misinterpreted what I was saying.

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Btw what's it with the pissed off looking avatar? Why and where did you download the pic? I mean it's quite funny in a sad way but it makes it kinda hard to take you seriously, especially giving the content of your postings, one might actually think you are the sad dude in the avatar

That is a pic of me. Why is it hard to take me seriously, because of a profile pic?

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Nothing you would accept, my boss when I worked for the Sheriff's office told me about it.

Hear say evidence like that is always acceptable to morons.

"hearsay" is things heard in rumors or gossip, not when one friend tells another of his actual experiences. otherwise, your entire life is reduced, in your words to "moronic acceptance" of what your friends and co-workers tell you, or alternatively, rejection of it since you didn't see it yourself.

your inability to be rational is astounding and only trumped by, not to mention the strong possibility of it being affected by too, your perverted malevolence.

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You can think of a better system? really??? how about not having to come up with bail? it costs taxpayers lotsa money to keep them there too, ya know..

Do you understand what bail is for?

so to you it makes sense to pay to put people (with minor offenses) in jail cuz they are poor and cant come up with the bail? You do realize that a homeless person costs taxpayers about $40,000/year and a big part of that cost is for throwing them in jail and keeping them there.. and after keeping someone who did have a job and home in jail long enough for them to lose their job, their home & kids they will then be homeless and in an even deeper hole.. but hey, since they are now homeless just throw them in jail again, huh???
"with the average cost of a prison bed at about $20,000 per year."
http://salvationarmynorth.org/2012/05/free-housing-for-the-homeless-costs-taxpayers-less/

Nothing more than histrionics. There's quite a difference between not keeping someone in jail for a minor offense because they can't post bail, and getting rid of the bail system altogether.
Since you didn't answer the question, I'll ask again: do you understand what bail is for?

Who said getting rid of the bail system completely?

tj444 did here.

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If you are poor (& not white), it sucks big time.. people can be thrown in jail for quite minor offenses, and if they dont have the money to get bailed out they can lose EVERYTHING.. their job.. their home.. their kids and family.. is it any wonder that some become so depressed that they commit suicide in jail?

You can think of a better system? really??? how about not having to come up with bail? it costs taxpayers lotsa money to keep them there too, ya know..

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Btw do you understand why bail doesn't work for minor offences and is actually pretty counter productive? Apparently not.

Who is arguing for mandating bail for even minor offences? I think you may have misinterpreted what I was saying.

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Btw what's it with the pissed off looking avatar? Why and where did you download the pic? I mean it's quite funny in a sad way but it makes it kinda hard to take you seriously, especially giving the content of your postings, one might actually think you are the sad dude in the avatar

That is a pic of me. Why is it hard to take me seriously, because of a profile pic?

Ummm.. While I never specified who should or shouldnt have bail, anyone WITH HALF A BRAIN should have known I meant no bail required for minor offenses!!!!!!!!! FFS, do I have to put disclaimers on my posts like McDs have to put on their coffee cups for people so stupid that every f'n thing needs to be spelt out for their dumb selves???? Come on, you must be smarter than that...