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Difference between Bush/Saddam and Obama/Gaddafi - 1/1/2016 6:47:07 PM   
Greta75


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Status: offline 		When the whole Gaddafi take down incident was going on. I wasn't paying attention to the news at that time. On the surface, I just thought, there was civil war going on, and as usual, US went in and took sides and a Muslim Dictator got killed, I didn't care.

It was only very recently I read more indepth about it.

Both dictators were taken down for the same reasons, believed to post future threats to terrorism.

But what surprises me is Gaddafi eldest son tried to negotiate to prevent a full blown war with Obama. He asked for a fair election, that can be monitored by US, and they will step down, if they lost the election. They were willing to find a resolution on peaceful grounds. But Obama downright rejected it.

And this the Obama Democratic Lead US, doing this. They could have brought some real democracy to Libya and respect the true people's choice. There is a chance that Gaddafi might genuinely win that election, due to his excessive welfare schemes that improved people's lives, but that's democracy.

Kinda just proves to me, Libs are more against freedom than Cons. Just saying. If they totally disagree with your point of view, they would shut you down.

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RE: Difference between Bush/Saddam and Obama/Gaddafi - 1/1/2016 6:52:48 PM   
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RE: Difference between Bush/Saddam and Obama/Gaddafi - 1/1/2016 6:53:30 PM   
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What does this have to do with BDSM?

I accidentally posted this in the wrong section. Oops, I thought I clicked on politics!
Will ask Admin for help to move it!
Ahhhh!!!!!!!!, First mishap of having the politics section moved since they are right beside each other now!


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RE: Difference between Bush/Saddam and Obama/Gaddafi - 1/1/2016 7:01:35 PM   
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RE: Difference between Bush/Saddam and Obama/Gaddafi - 1/1/2016 7:56:46 PM   
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This move of P&R into BDSM is just the mods trolling at this point..

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RE: Difference between Bush/Saddam and Obama/Gaddafi - 1/1/2016 10:00:52 PM   
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What does this have to do with BDSM?

I accidentally posted this in the wrong section. Oops, I thought I clicked on politics!
Will ask Admin for help to move it!
Ahhhh!!!!!!!!, First mishap of having the politics section moved since they are right beside each other now!




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RE: Difference between Bush/Saddam and Obama/Gaddafi - 1/1/2016 10:14:24 PM   
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RE: Difference between Bush/Saddam and Obama/Gaddafi - 1/1/2016 10:41:05 PM   
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Yea right about what?

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RE: Difference between Bush/Saddam and Obama/Gaddafi - 1/2/2016 11:41:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Democracy is hard to quantify. Not sure I can in a paragraph.
Better the devil you know..ive said that a few times everywhere and it goes against the grain of my being.
Both of them were monsters.
Regions tribal since the beginning of time.

Few notes to add:
UK has invaded 90% of countries in the last 2 millennia we do not really have the higher moral ground. Best not forget the crusades
US far too many: Anything from annual gun deaths, Iran a progressive nation isolated because of was it the puppets, or was it everyone remembers Pan am flight 103 but they conveniently forget Iran Air Flight 655
Russia, Germany,Spain, Portugal, China, Rome, and so on

Saddam Gaddafi were monsters - unmitigated brutality is often the only thing some people understand - and in both those lands the point has been proven, unfortunately (there are plenty of good people in those lands) just many mosnters

monsters how can they be defined - spectrum I guess

collateral damage such a blase term

when I am elected world leader and I let one person, 100, 1000 die of cold, starvation, without medical care am I not also a muffin monster

the lesser of evils or the devil you know..pointless writing 10 pages I guess for something with no definitive answer

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RE: Difference between Bush/Saddam and Obama/Gaddafi - 1/2/2016 2:06:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: stef

What does this have to do with BDSM?

I accidentally posted this in the wrong section. Oops, I thought I clicked on politics!
Will ask Admin for help to move it!
Ahhhh!!!!!!!!, First mishap of having the politics section moved since they are right beside each other now!


It happens. I don't like the new arrangement.

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RE: Difference between Bush/Saddam and Obama/Gaddafi - 1/2/2016 2:08:35 PM   
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RE: Difference between Bush/Saddam and Obama/Gaddafi - 1/2/2016 2:50:46 PM   
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I sure wish they'd spent their time purging socks instead of rearranging thread categories. The former would do a lot more for the forum than the latter did.

Agreed. I am sure that there are reasons that we are not aware of that made them decide to rearrange the boards, and new mod has posted before that there are a lot of changes they are discussing so some things that we want to see may be slow in coming.

I get that. But they way these socks are bringing the boards down (and I suspect discouraging new participants), I would think that would be a higher priority than changing the order of threads.

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RE: Difference between Bush/Saddam and Obama/Gaddafi - 1/3/2016 2:47:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Bush is a I'll educated buffoon who got elected president of the world's most insane and violent nation. Obama is s smart ass half caste who got elected President of the same. Saddle was a Muslim tyrant that kept a country together and died with courage. Gaddafi was a Muslim Tyrant that was an imbecile and died in fear killed by fellow ragweed thugs.

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RE: Difference between Bush/Saddam and Obama/Gaddafi - 1/3/2016 6:48:12 AM   
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Both dictators were taken down for the same reasons, believed to post future threats to terrorism.


Gaddafi was taken down because of his attempts to introduce a single African currency (linked to gold), a move that would of thrown our world economy into chaos.

Our governments have lied about why we murdered Gadaffi.

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RE: Difference between Bush/Saddam and Obama/Gaddafi - 1/3/2016 9:37:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Oh dear wicked what was today's headlines

Iran: Saudis face 'divine revenge' for executing al-Nimr

hmm divine you can do anything in the name of your god, apparently like invoking the promise of carnage and utter mayhem....sad times indeed.

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