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ifmaz -> RE: Obama enforcing Gun Control (1/6/2016 9:02:12 PM)
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
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Again, why would a person have a problem with a background check if they do not have something to hide? Nobody is taking the sacred holy cow away... Just like nobody takes your car away, you still need a driving licence though.
Do you have anything to hide? No? Then you should have no problems with giving me your passwords to your bank account and email.
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PS: Didn't you know about this little loophole at gun shows, or the private sellers don't need to record the sale or ask even for ID.....
There are many, many bureaucratic issues involved with being an FFL. If you sell a firearm as an FFL you must keep that paperwork, the ATF-4473 form, for no fewer than 20 years per ATF regulations. The ATF can inspect your records every 12 months to make sure you are in compliance. The ATF will also make your information public. For a business with a proper storefront that's not usually a problem. For someone who inherited a few rifles from their deceased grandfather this is a huge hassle. As you have nothing to hide you should have no problem posting your name and address here as this is exactly what you want random citizens to do.
But mostly this is why there is opposition to arbitrarily classifying someone as a "firearms dealer":
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ORIGINAL: https://www.atr.org/hillary-raise-firearm-dealer-fee-2500
With President Obama ordering Americans who sell just “one or two” guns to obtain a Federal Firearms License (FFL), Hillary Clinton’s strong support for a steep hike in the FFL takes on new importance.
Clinton is firmly on record in support of raising the gun dealer licensing fee to $2,500. The fee currently ranges from $30 to $200.
“Obama plans to require you to get a license to sell one gun,” said Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform. “Hillary has already announced that the price of a license should be $2,500. This will make it prohibitively expensive for individuals to sell their own guns.”
As she testified before the tax-writing Senate Finance Committee on Sept. 30, 1993, Clinton was asked by Sen. Bill Bradley (D-N.J.) if she supported the imposition of a new, 25 percent national sales tax on guns and a steep increase in dealer fees to $2,500. Clinton emphatically endorsed the hikes, stating: "I am all for that."
As reported by the Associated Press:
Sen. Bill Bradley, D-N.J., picked up Mrs. Clinton's support for his idea of slapping stiff taxes on ''purveyors of violence:'' a 25 percent sales tax on guns and $2,500 license fees for gun dealers.
''Speaking personally ... I'm all for that,'' said the first lady. But she stressed she was just speaking for herself.
''Well, let me say that there is no more important personal endorsement in the country today, and I thank you very much,'' said a pleased-as-punch Bradley.
After she publically endorsed the hikes in congressional testimony, she made sure that everyone understood how important this was to her, saying: "I am speaking personally, but I feel very strongly about that."
NBC Nightly News reported Clinton’s endorsement as follows:
NBC: "Others urge a hefty sales tax on guns, and much higher fees for gun dealers. Today, they got a powerful ally."
Clinton: "I'm all for that. I just don't know what else we're going to do to try to figure out how to get some handle on this violence."
Said Norquist: “Under the Obama-Clinton model, the cost of selling your best friend a $400 shotgun will be $2,900.”
By requiring practically everyone to obtain an FFL before privately selling their belongings and then upping the FFL fees to $2500 one has essentially encouraged a black market for firearms. Additionally, anyone selling a firearm at a gun show (or elsewhere) without an FFL would incur huge ($250,000) penalties and possible jail time.
All this to prevent 0.7% of criminals from obtaining a firearm at a gun show. It should also be noted the San Bernadino shooters obtained their firearms through a straw purchaser. The National Shooting Sports Foundation partnered with the ATF to educate firearm dealers about straw purchasing whereas other groups, like Mr. Bloomberg's Everytown USA, have done nothing to prevent straw purchasing. If the president truly wanted to prevent criminals from obtaining firearms he would have upped the penalties for straw purchasing or prosecuted every straw purchaser to the full extent of the law ($250,000 fine and 10 years in prison). Instead, the straw buyer who purchased a firearm used to murder a police officer was let go with year's probation and 180 days of home confinement and community service. Dontray Mills, who purchased and resold 27 firearms with a fake ID was sentenced to a year's probation. Is probation enough for people who knowingly purchase firearms for felons or other prohibited persons that cannot legally obtain a firearm of their own?
It's not all bad for firearm owners, however: the president's executive order eliminates the need for a chief law enforcement officer to sign off on NFA paperwork. NFA items have an additional $200 tax stamp and include suppressors, fully-automatic firearms, and short-barreled rifles (SBR). Previously one would have to wait for their law enforcement agency to process their paperwork, which could take weeks or months assuming the agency processed it at all. Courtesy of the president, however, now law enforcement is merely notified; they will do no additional background checking of their own.
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