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See, while the cultural message to the male who fails at getting laid is “work harder and improve yourself”, the cultural message to the female who fails at landing her dream guy, even if he’s way out of her league and she has nothing to offer him, is always “it’s everyone’s fault except yours”.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

If I gotta know PUA and MRA, I am just gonna stick with getting my dick sucked.

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Male losers are ridiculed by nearly everyone ....

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ORIGINAL: MistresskittyBBW

God, MRAs are the worst.
If you dislike feminists so much, why don't you do something to help men? Like go volunteer at a male homeless shelter, protest in support of young black men walking on the streets, advocate for equal rights for gay men, educate others in support of trans men.

If you did care about any of that, you'd already be a feminist because you'd realise feminism is inclusive of men, too.

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ORIGINAL: MistresskittyBBW

God, MRAs are the worst.

Feminism at its heart aims to dismantle patriarchy.

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If you did care about any of that, you'd already be a feminist because you'd realise feminism is inclusive of men, too.

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If you dislike feminists so much, why don't you do something to help men? Like go volunteer at a male homeless shelter, protest in support of young black men walking on the streets, advocate for equal rights for gay men, educate others in support of trans men.

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my general experience of feminists have been shrill hags that can't get laid, and talk interminably instead of doing anything, yanno, useful.

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

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my general experience of feminists have been shrill hags that can't get laid, and talk interminably instead of doing anything, yanno, useful.

They think taking women's studies classes is classified as "useful" instead of doing something that is truly useful. Something that many men do, like build things.

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

Feminism Appeals to Female Losers the Same Way that PUA Appeals to Male Losers

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminism-appeals-to-female-losers-the-same-way-that-puas-appeal-to-male-losers/


I don't consider myself an MRA and I don't usually bother reading "A Voice for Men" material but this one caught my attention. Great article!

Just a snippet out of the article.

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See, while the cultural message to the male who fails at getting laid is “work harder and improve yourself”, the cultural message to the female who fails at landing her dream guy, even if he’s way out of her league and she has nothing to offer him, is always “it’s everyone’s fault except yours”.

Female privilege reeks with this one.

I have observed this exact attitude in this site for many years. I don't think feminism created this double standard as it seems to be an ingrained cultural mindset. However, feminism does support the said mindset. People would be blaming patriarchy for this. If it is patriarchy, it's funny how feminists will be in bed with patriarchy when it's giving women a benefit while being against it when it's benefitting men.

Male losers are ridiculed by nearly everyone which is usually backed by feminists. Female losers are usually coddled and told how bad men are which is usually backed by feminists.

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Oh please, the female privilege you claim means she does then get laid? How?

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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Male losers are ridiculed by nearly everyone ....

I don't think that's fair, respectmen. Even a few of the people using this forum have never ridiculed you despite having seen what you write.

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

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Oh please, the female privilege you claim means she does then get laid? How?

No, you need to stop jumping to such assumptions with things that I never said and never even came close to saying. You need to think more about my posts before jumping to such assumptions.

I thought from all what's expressed, the privilege is clear. Society is empathetic to women who have trouble getting what they want out of men. On the other hand, men are losers if they can't get what they want out of women. Society with the push of feminism blames patriarchy/men for women's failures while it's simply the fault of the man if he fails.

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the cultural message to the female who fails at landing her dream guy, even if he’s way out of her league and she has nothing to offer him, is always “it’s everyone’s fault except yours”.

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ORIGINAL: MistresskittyBBW

Feminism at its heart aims to dismantle patriarchy. Patriarchy does not mean all women are victims and all men are oppressors. Nor is it a literal physical thing. There are no 'patriarchs'. Patriarchy is a set of conscious and unconscious biases perpetuated by both men and women that have serious detrimental effects on both men and women.
It's called 'patriarchy' because the biases combine to form a paternal view of men and an infantile view of women. Both of these perspectives come with myriad problems. Paternal figures are seen as weak or vulnerable if they display any significant range of emotion. Infantile figures are seen as less capable of deliberate, rational action.

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If you dislike feminists so much, why don't you do something to help men? Like go volunteer at a male homeless shelter, protest in support of young black men walking on the streets, advocate for equal rights for gay men, educate others in support of trans men.

If you did care about any of that, you'd already be a feminist because you'd realise feminism is inclusive of men, too.[/b]

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Maybe if you tried to conceptualize personal relationships in terms other than "what you can get out of someone," your prospects for getting laid would improve enough that you wouldn't be so thoroughly frustrated that you come to a community forum for the purpose of having a public hissy fit about the fact that no woman wants to go near your junk, all while convincing yourself that your motive and accomplishment is to observe insightful social theory. Just a thought.