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RE: Angela Merkel is a woman, yet.... - 1/6/2016 5:44:50 AM   
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what is known so far: it started when at about midnight some idiots threw crackers and fireworks into the crowd on the Domplatte (the big place in Cologne between Cathedral and Central station), so police started to clear the place (so much in tv news today at noon). Police was present - among other reasons - to observe an international gang of pickpockets active in trainstations for quite a while.

What really happened then in the crowd and in the train station is still unclear. Women have been assaulted by groups of males for sure. So much so far about the facts.



What is known so far...

The scale of the attacks on women at the city's central railway station has shocked Germany. About 1,000 drunk and aggressive young men were involved. City police chief Wolfgang Albers called it "a completely new dimension of crime". The men were of Arab or North African appearance, he said. Women were also targeted in Hamburg.

But the Cologne assaults - near the city's iconic cathedral - were the most serious, German media report. At least one woman was raped, and many were groped... What is particularly disturbing is that the attacks appear to have been organised. Around 1,000 young men arrived in large groups, seemingly with the specific intention of carrying out attacks on women...

A policeman who was outside Cologne station during the New Year's Eve trouble told the city's Express news website that he had detained eight suspects. "They were all asylum seekers, carrying copies of their residence certificates," he said. However, there was no official confirmation that asylum seekers had been involved in the violence.


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RE: Angela Merkel is a woman, yet.... - 1/6/2016 7:18:45 AM   
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the Hamburg incidents happened on Reeperbahn - and pardon me this is one of the few places I would not recommend any woman to go there alone after midnight not only on New Years Eve (for those who do not know: the Reeperbahn is the Hamburg red lights district with every second house a brothel)

there were incidents reported from Stuttgart too but so far not with the slightest details


the about 1000 drunk men reported were the crowd on the Domplatte who were pushed away after these fireworks incidents - what happened after that, where and who did what is still rather unclear - I hope we 'll get facts within the coming days.

it is an outrage for sure but I hope the police will be doing a better job investigating what really happened than on New Years Eve in preventing it

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RE: Angela Merkel is a woman, yet.... - 1/6/2016 8:51:11 AM   
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I really don't get your whole hatred for immigrants all over the world, from my understanding your parents were immigrants and you happened to be born outside of China because they went to another country. Seriously, you sometimes sound a lot more irrational than this idiot Farage here who blames everything that's wrong with the UK on immigrants (even traffic jams) while at the same time being married to a foreigner, his wife is German... That's UKIP logic for you

I have no problems with immigrants in my country. My government only allows immigrants with the ability to contribute to our country. Like either hold a qualification or a skill that is necessary and useful to us and be gainfully employed and useful before they are allowed in. Or they are going to come here and start businesses and create jobs. But Europe lets anybody in without caring about quality and their ability to contribute to their country. I mean, if that's what European are happy with, it actually doesn't affect me. But I just think it's silly especially when it could jeopardise the safety in their country for their own citizens by not properly vetting. So my mom run her own business and employed like 50 people in her small business, and my dad is head of an MNC. So why shouldn't they be allowed in when they are contributing to the country in a positive manner?

It's quite interesting that one CNN article actually accuses Singapore of being so rich but not contributing to accepting Syria immigrants. We NEVER will. That's our mentality. Unless they come in applying for the proper work permits with the proper necessary qualifications. But I am also very confident in our background checks to deny terrorists muslims in disguise as moderate muslims. Our country is anal about this. And Syrian refugees will never be admitted IF there is no way to check them, that would satisfy our security protocol.

All I can say is, our country is more closely run like republicans than democrats, and we don't have the senseless spending and any debt and hand outs. I am living in it's success, that's why I believe more in the Republicans strategy in the US than the Dems.





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RE: Angela Merkel is a woman, yet.... - 1/6/2016 8:54:04 AM   
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oh Im so glad I live where I do...
I dont think I could live with that mentality.

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RE: Angela Merkel is a woman, yet.... - 1/6/2016 9:42:58 AM   
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Do people feel a chill as they walk past you Greta?

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RE: Angela Merkel is a woman, yet.... - 1/6/2016 9:51:33 AM   
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the Hamburg incidents happened on Reeperbahn - and pardon me this is one of the few places I would not recommend any woman to go there alone after midnight not only on New Years Eve (for those who do not know: the Reeperbahn is the Hamburg red lights district with every second house a brothel)

there were incidents reported from Stuttgart too but so far not with the slightest details


the about 1000 drunk men reported were the crowd on the Domplatte who were pushed away after these fireworks incidents - what happened after that, where and who did what is still rather unclear - I hope we 'll get facts within the coming days.

it is an outrage for sure but I hope the police will be doing a better job investigating what really happened than on New Years Eve in preventing it



I thought the Reeperbahn has changed a lot and is now more nightlife and that they are trying to gentrify the area?

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RE: Angela Merkel is a woman, yet.... - 1/6/2016 9:52:01 AM   
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You (say you) are a woman, yet...


you want Trump The Misogynist to be the next Prez...

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RE: Angela Merkel is a woman, yet.... - 1/6/2016 9:54:51 AM   
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oh Im so glad I live where I do...
I dont think I could live with that mentality.


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RE: Angela Merkel is a woman, yet.... - 1/6/2016 10:26:21 AM   
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My German friend was telling me, the situation on the ground in Germany is that you got these migrants who can't find jobs, just loitering around, harassing women on the streets. As they can't get women's attention over there, as local German women generally would not date these guys from more backwards countries, due to cultural differences too. And rape incidents are going up, and women just can't walk around safely anymore, because you got these migrants with different culture that does not respect women coming in freely.

But it's sad to me, that their leader is a woman, and she has failed to protect the women of her own country, but infact, contributed to their increased danger of sexual assault.

People think she deserves the nobel prize. When women can safely move about without getting mauled, then she has done a good job in my opinion.



http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/05/europe/germany-cologne-new-year-assaults/index.html


I don't know much about her politics, but I do think she carries herself very well.

As politicians go, she is as much as a 'what you see is what you get' type of person as you can get in politics.

I like her, and I think she's attractive in her own way. She just has a really nice way of conducting herself - for a politician.

One of the main things I like about her is that she doesn't change her persona according to the company keeping.

And like all Germans I bet she is an outstanding fuck. Just something about her that gives the impression she knows what she's doing - in all walks of life.

Her politics? Dunno about that.

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RE: Angela Merkel is a woman, yet.... - 1/6/2016 10:27:26 AM   
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as usual about half of what you write exists in your head only ...

Half? Your optimism is refreshing.

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RE: Angela Merkel is a woman, yet.... - 1/6/2016 10:32:35 AM   
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quote:

I really don't get your whole hatred for immigrants all over the world, from my understanding your parents were immigrants and you happened to be born outside of China because they went to another country. Seriously, you sometimes sound a lot more irrational than this idiot Farage here who blames everything that's wrong with the UK on immigrants (even traffic jams) while at the same time being married to a foreigner, his wife is German... That's UKIP logic for you

I have no problems with immigrants in my country. My government only allows immigrants with the ability to contribute to our country. Like either hold a qualification or a skill that is necessary and useful to us and be gainfully employed and useful before they are allowed in. Or they are going to come here and start businesses and create jobs. But Europe lets anybody in without caring about quality and their ability to contribute to their country. I mean, if that's what European are happy with, it actually doesn't affect me. But I just think it's silly especially when it could jeopardise the safety in their country for their own citizens by not properly vetting. So my mom run her own business and employed like 50 people in her small business, and my dad is head of an MNC. So why shouldn't they be allowed in when they are contributing to the country in a positive manner?

It's quite interesting that one CNN article actually accuses Singapore of being so rich but not contributing to accepting Syria immigrants. We NEVER will. That's our mentality. Unless they come in applying for the proper work permits with the proper necessary qualifications. But I am also very confident in our background checks to deny terrorists muslims in disguise as moderate muslims. Our country is anal about this. And Syrian refugees will never be admitted IF there is no way to check them, that would satisfy our security protocol.

All I can say is, our country is more closely run like republicans than democrats, and we don't have the senseless spending and any debt and hand outs. I am living in it's success, that's why I believe more in the Republicans strategy in the US than the Dems.


The repubs have their handouts and the dems have theirs. Both will borrow and spend and each have their own constituencies to satisfy. However, it is often the case where the repub handouts in one form or another...cost the treasury more, like TARP.

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RE: Angela Merkel is a woman, yet.... - 1/6/2016 10:51:55 AM   
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quote:

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My German friend was telling me, the situation on the ground in Germany is that you got these migrants who can't find jobs, just loitering around, harassing women on the streets. As they can't get women's attention over there, as local German women generally would not date these guys from more backwards countries, due to cultural differences too. And rape incidents are going up, and women just can't walk around safely anymore, because you got these migrants with different culture that does not respect women coming in freely.

But it's sad to me, that their leader is a woman, and she has failed to protect the women of her own country, but infact, contributed to their increased danger of sexual assault.

People think she deserves the nobel prize. When women can safely move about without getting mauled, then she has done a good job in my opinion.



http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/05/europe/germany-cologne-new-year-assaults/index.html


I don't know much about her politics, but I do think she carries herself very well.

As politicians go, she is as much as a 'what you see is what you get' type of person as you can get in politics.

I like her, and I think she's attractive in her own way. She just has a really nice way of conducting herself - for a politician.

One of the main things I like about her is that she doesn't change her persona according to the company keeping.

And like all Germans I bet she is an outstanding fuck. Just something about her that gives the impression she knows what she's doing - in all walks of life.

Her politics? Dunno about that.

[They] did a masterful job in bailing out Berlin and keeping it very, very quiet. Much bigger than any US city.

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RE: Angela Merkel is a woman, yet.... - 1/6/2016 10:56:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: blnymph

the Hamburg incidents happened on Reeperbahn - and pardon me this is one of the few places I would not recommend any woman to go there alone after midnight not only on New Years Eve (for those who do not know: the Reeperbahn is the Hamburg red lights district with every second house a brothel)

there were incidents reported from Stuttgart too but so far not with the slightest details


the about 1000 drunk men reported were the crowd on the Domplatte who were pushed away after these fireworks incidents - what happened after that, where and who did what is still rather unclear - I hope we 'll get facts within the coming days.

it is an outrage for sure but I hope the police will be doing a better job investigating what really happened than on New Years Eve in preventing it


If only there were a portable device that women could use to defend themselves...

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RE: Angela Merkel is a woman, yet.... - 1/6/2016 11:32:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

My German friend was telling me, the situation on the ground in Germany is that you got these migrants who can't find jobs, just loitering around, harassing women on the streets. As they can't get women's attention over there, as local German women generally would not date these guys from more backwards countries, due to cultural differences too. And rape incidents are going up, and women just can't walk around safely anymore, because you got these migrants with different culture that does not respect women coming in freely.

But it's sad to me, that their leader is a woman, and she has failed to protect the women of her own country, but infact, contributed to their increased danger of sexual assault.

People think she deserves the nobel prize. When women can safely move about without getting mauled, then she has done a good job in my opinion.



http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/05/europe/germany-cologne-new-year-assaults/index.html


I don't know much about her politics, but I do think she carries herself very well.

As politicians go, she is as much as a 'what you see is what you get' type of person as you can get in politics.

I like her, and I think she's attractive in her own way. She just has a really nice way of conducting herself - for a politician.

One of the main things I like about her is that she doesn't change her persona according to the company keeping.

And like all Germans I bet she is an outstanding fuck. Just something about her that gives the impression she knows what she's doing - in all walks of life.

Her politics? Dunno about that.



Her politics are a bit like Cams, for example Germany for ages had rules at how much you can raise the rent in a place without a change of tenants, I think it was 10 or 15% a year, there was a way around and to get tenants out quicker, you just made a lot of changes and "upgraded" as in putting in marble floors and such, you could then raise the rent substantially. Germany has much more of a renting culture than the UK due to a few different legalities and people also prefer more space, it basically kept places affordable for families with one income and kids, she changed that, as a result a lot of places that were sort of middle to working class areas where people commuted, went seriously out of the financial range of those people, they surprisingly were turned into luxury housing.... Think of most German inner cities now nearing the London rents, people commute for much much longer, which is quite stressful, and of course gives them less time to spend with families. A room did have to have 15 square meters at least to be advertised as a room, also changed.

As an example, I paid 1000 Euros rent for a super nice and spacious flat, slap bang in the city center of Augsburg, 10 minutes walk I was at the train station or could take the bus to the Munich airport, never needed a car, self-employed, could write of some of the space as office and all that. I checked in October or November last year, was a bit curious and rang the bell, they changed it into a shared flat for students, the lovely large Art Deco rooms are now tiny cubicles and there are 7 students living there paying 600 rent each, that's still a lot of money for rent if you're a student, especially for something that is tiny now but apparently the cheapest they could find. It's that old thing, if you make it difficult for people to get advanced degrees due to economics, a country is fucking itself over long term, because those are the people who'd earn well and eventually pay quite a bit of tax...

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RE: Angela Merkel is a woman, yet.... - 1/6/2016 12:21:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: blnymph

the Hamburg incidents happened on Reeperbahn - and pardon me this is one of the few places I would not recommend any woman to go there alone after midnight not only on New Years Eve (for those who do not know: the Reeperbahn is the Hamburg red lights district with every second house a brothel)

there were incidents reported from Stuttgart too but so far not with the slightest details


the about 1000 drunk men reported were the crowd on the Domplatte who were pushed away after these fireworks incidents - what happened after that, where and who did what is still rather unclear - I hope we 'll get facts within the coming days.

it is an outrage for sure but I hope the police will be doing a better job investigating what really happened than on New Years Eve in preventing it


If only there were a portable device that women could use to defend themselves...



how about a screwdriver? - useful also for tightening a few loose screws here or there ...



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RE: Angela Merkel is a woman, yet.... - 1/6/2016 12:37:07 PM   
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These attacks happen more than you would know and have been going on for many years. In the UK I read a few of them per year they are usually titled A Group of Asian men - I can’t speak for any other countries but did read that German article today on the BBC website and wondered where the police were...given all of Europe is on high alert.

These people are animals operating in mob mentality mode – and that is never a good mode.

Germany has welcomed in 1.5 million displaced people this year. They are referred to refuges as they escape: war, famine, chaos and havoc, brutality, enslavement, rape
They have done more than any other country, easily more than the UK

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RE: Angela Merkel is a woman, yet.... - 1/6/2016 12:37:44 PM   
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Her politics are a bit like Cams



What? Her background is PR and she gets on a bike for a few minutes and has a photo published with the messaging being: "the environment is my cause"?

I doubt it. I doubt there's a politician on this planet who is as smarmy as David Cameron and hold his voters in such contempt that he thinks two minutes on a bike will appeal to the average voter.

I like her, and I'm convinced she gets fisted into oblivion every Tuesday, most Wednesdays and now and again on a Thursday. All Germans do.



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RE: Angela Merkel is a woman, yet.... - 1/6/2016 12:51:25 PM   
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She's basically also pandering to the very wealthy, trying to privatize everything and of course croonies get first pick... I doubt Ange gets on a bike, I think that would need to be especially reinforced, but yeah, a lot of Germans tend to change the F for M and a Ferkel is a piglet.

She's doing the Cam thing where she just wants to have 2 classes, upper class and working class, while pretending to be oh so concerned, currently she's very busy fucking students, working and middle class and pensioners over, with pretty much the same arguments as Cam, all about austerity. She might not quite reach his levels of swarminess, but then he set the bar pretty high... Though I always wondered if that story about him is true, when he tried to buy fish and chips and asked if the green stuff is guacamole, sounds too funny to be true.

Wasn't there a little bust up with his bike ride, when it became known that the driver in his limo followed with his attaché case?

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RE: Angela Merkel is a woman, yet.... - 1/6/2016 12:56:28 PM   
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We shall wait for the findings then!
Yes I read the English translation.
Since I cannot understand German, I shall take your word for it, the translation is wrong.

But CNN has reported that the German Police said, they are Arab and African men.



Actually I think most news channels reported with the correct translation that the men had the appearance of Arab or North African Men, but there were also a lot of reports about those guys reeking of booze, and in case you missed it, tons of incidents where the groping distracted the victims and their companions from the fact that somebody emptied their pockets and stole their wallets and electronic gear.

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RE: Angela Merkel is a woman, yet.... - 1/7/2016 8:00:14 AM   
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Her politics are a bit like Cams, ...


for LC and NG

not quite but close - but there is a perfect Cameron's-best-pal and mirror image: "unser Horst" Seehofer. Cameron was just on the news visiting in Kreuth ...

for those who are unfamiliar with that one: Bavarian prime minister - a text-book example of a politician turning with the wind


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